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TV Recommendation (Newcomer)

Halorocka888
12-08-2008, 12:58 PM
Hi y'all, first post here-

Have been doing nonstop research for the past few weeks to figure out a Christmas replacement for my 42" Sony LCD Projection that I got 4 or 5 years ago.

Here are the final two sets that I have landed on after much research... (Budget of 1k or under)


Panasonic TH-42PZ80U or Panasonic TH-42PZ85U

Not sure if the contrast ratio improvement from 20k:1 to 30k:1 is worth spending more money on, but my budget allows for both. Was just turned on to plasma after being turned off several years ago by horrors of burn-ins. From what I hear, anti-burn in technology has improved greatly.

Also, I use my TV for gaming mostly and this seems like a logical choice due to no response times and great picture/refresh rate.

Toshiba REGZA 42RV535U

Was my first choice for a long time until I was turned onto Panasonics. SRT features and value attracted me to this set. However, I am very concerned about video gaming with LCDs due to input lag and the 8ms response time. Unsure if I'm sensitive to response times, but i'd like to just skip that and not find out.


I can get both for almost exactly the same price on BeachCamera with free shipping. $888 and $889 respectively.

Bottomline:

What set is better overall?
What set is better in the long run?

But most importantly, which set will produce better picture/performance for HD video gaming??

Thanks a bunch!

Bigloww
12-08-2008, 01:18 PM
Both are excellent displays IMO and will produce a great picture. But if I had to pick I would go with the Panny 80u/85u.. For gaming, plasma is awesome wih no lag issues at all. I have been gaming on my plasma for over 3 years now (360/PS2 and PC) and Looooooove it. But either way you go my guess is that you will be quite pleased.

Loves2Watch
12-08-2008, 01:34 PM
Both are excellent displays IMO and will produce a great picture. But if I had to pick I would go with the Panny 80u/85u.. For gaming, plasma is awesome wih no lag issues at all. I have been gaming on my plasma for over 3 years now (360/PS2 and PC) and Looooooove it. But either way you go my guess is that you will be quite pleased.

I second that!

JalacoJones
12-08-2008, 01:35 PM
I had just run into the same question/issue this weekend. I went with the 42" Panny plasma. It seems like the better choice for gaming and sports.

Costco has a 42" 720p panasonic for $629 right now.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11292542&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|79|2341|3314|74671&N=4018656&Mo=0&No=0&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=74671&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&hierPath=79*2341*3314*74671*&topnav=

They also have a 46" 1080p for $949.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11326724&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|79|2341|3314|74670&N=4018655&Mo=4&No=4&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=74670&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&hierPath=79*2341*3314*74670*&topnav=


I know that yesterday, when I got mine, it had free shipping, but I am not sure if that applies any more.

The good thing from Costco, is that they extend all manufacturers warranties on TV's to be 2 years.

JalacoJones
12-08-2008, 01:38 PM
Also, from what the stickies say, don't pay too much attention to the Contrast ratios. Then again, if they are from within the same company, there must be something to it.

I would/did go with the Plasma.

Halorocka888
12-08-2008, 01:47 PM
Alright guys, thanks a bunch for the info. Seems plasma is going to be better for what I require out of a TV.

However, the Toshiba has some form of SD upscaling, from someone who owns it, how do SD channels look?

That, and I can't find whether the Panasonics have a QAM tuner, which the Toshiba has. I could really do without, but it's a nice feature to have along with SRT.

Loves2Watch
12-08-2008, 01:51 PM
Alright guys, thanks a bunch for the info. Seems plasma is going to be better for what I require out of a TV.

However, the Toshiba has some form of SD upscaling, from someone who owns it, how do SD channels look?

That, and I can't find whether the Panasonics have a QAM tuner, which the Toshiba has. I could really do without, but it's a nice feature to have along with SRT.

All fixed panel displays upscale to their native resolution. The Panasonic plasma TV's do a much better job with SD than most LCD panels do. As for comparison between the plasma and the Toshiba SRT, you would have to see that for yourself but I would assume that for your needs the plasma would still be a better choice in any case.

Halorocka888
12-08-2008, 02:13 PM
Yeah, that's what I thought.

As for the QAM tuner, does anyone who owns these sets have knowledge of this? Can't seem to get reliable info about this subject on the Panasonic.

PFC5
12-08-2008, 02:46 PM
Yeah, that's what I thought.

As for the QAM tuner, does anyone who owns these sets have knowledge of this? Can't seem to get reliable info about this subject on the Panasonic.

I own the 50pz80u and it definitely has the QAM tuners. Ditto for all their current year displays I believe.

Halorocka888
12-08-2008, 03:01 PM
Alright, thanks for the info man. Just read the Panasonic data sheet and saw the QAM tuner hidden in there.

Halorocka888
12-09-2008, 01:22 PM
Oh yes, I was wondering what type of response times LCD projection tv's have, just to compare with my old TV.

Also, I plan on using the TV as a monitor, not all the time but it would be great as I was planning on getting a Blu-ray drive for my computer, would plasma be suitable for that?

iserum
12-09-2008, 08:10 PM
CC has 42 inch samsung 720p plasma with Xbox 360 arcade for $750, it is a very good deal and sammy plasma is also very good.

Halorocka888
12-09-2008, 09:03 PM
Yes, I saw that. But i'd really like to get a 1080p TV, but I do need an Xbox with HDMI one of these days, wish Elites weren't so darn expensive.

3in2out
12-09-2008, 10:34 PM
Im also considering the Panasonic TH-42PZ80U...this will be my first hdtv, so should suffice for a few years till the newer technology gets a bit cheaper, then it can be moved to a bedroom. Any idea of the best price/place to get one?

The 42" sammy and xbox arcade for $750 sounds like a smoking deal also, as my fiancee and I are buying an xbox for out Christmas present to each other...any thoughts on this setup? If I were to get a extended warranty, Id be afraid of CC tanking though. That and there site seems to be acting a bit screwey with the package deal.

Halorocka888
12-09-2008, 10:39 PM
Haven't done the research in the Sammy Plasma department, but the Panny sounds pretty damn good.

As for the TV+Xbox deal, can't go wrong there.

Try Newegg, or Beachcamera. Newegg's reliable but not an awesome selection. Not sure about Beachcamera, but i'm trying them out at the end of the week and they have phenomenal prices.

3in2out
12-10-2008, 07:21 AM
Haven't done the research in the Sammy Plasma department, but the Panny sounds pretty damn good.

As for the TV+Xbox deal, can't go wrong there.

Try Newegg, or Beachcamera. Newegg's reliable but not an awesome selection. Not sure about Beachcamera, but i'm trying them out at the end of the week and they have phenomenal prices.

I ordered my Nikon D40 from Beach..aka buydigcom, and didnt have any problems. But, there has been some mixed reviews about them. Do a google search for Beach camera reviews, just for some FYI if you are going to order through them for anything. Ive heard good things about Newegg.

Woovis
12-10-2008, 09:57 AM
Greets all from another HD n00b trying to decide on new hardware...

I've followed with great interest a few of the threads on the Panny THxxPZ80U series, and those really sound like the bang for the buck...true?

This will be our first HD set. We're a long time Sony house so could use some Sony vs. Panny info if any is out there. We're primarily music performance/concert and movie folks but also alot of football and some teevee. Room does have an exterior window.

Current set is a 35" 4:3 Sony (crt) that yeilds about a 33" widescreen picture. I'd like to go bigger, but can you get so big as to see too much kaka? Is there a calculated size or let the checkbook decide?

Recs on sets and good deals would be *greatly* appreciated!

Thanks in advance for any and all info, pointers to info, etc.

PFC5
12-11-2008, 06:41 PM
Welcome to the forum! :hithere:

Sony does not make plasmas for consumers so first you have to decide which tech you want. I prefer plasma owning both, but some prefer LCD.

A rough screen size viewing distance ratio to use is twice the diagonal measure of the TV will give you the prober viewing distance for that screen size. How far away do you sit now? If you fit about 8' away a 50" size would be about the right size.

Most people that go smaller especially when coming from a CRT who are afraid to go too big end up regretting getting a smaller screen and wish they followed that rough guideline. Some say it can never be too big, but I am somewhere in the middle and like that 2x ratio for a mix of SD & HD material.

Woovis
12-12-2008, 10:21 AM
Thanks for the reply and the info, I'll take a look at measurements but I'm sure we're at least 8' away...

Besides the VGA input, is there any reason to consider the TH50PZ85U over the TH50PZ80U ? I'm assuming the 85 is the newer model, as it boasts a slight larger contrast ratio...but the price I'm seeing at TigerDirect with a portable DVD player bonus is almost too hard not to pull the trigger on.

Would only be better if I could get a price match locally instead of paying for shipping!

Thanks for any and all thoughts,

Woovis
12-15-2008, 07:21 AM
Any thoughts? Anyone? Beuhler?

Oh, let's add th-50pz800u to the mix (current fav, know any deals?) and maybe the new th-50pz850u.

Woovis
12-17-2008, 04:16 PM
Amazon had the Panny TH-50PZ800U @ $1779 including the white glove delivery again today, so the trigger was pulled.

Also orderd the Panasonic DMP-BD35K but didn't get the best price, but then it needs to be here with the TV for the Christmas present to be complete. Could have waited but as others have noted, you can wait and wait and wait or get and enjoy it!

Thanks to all for their posts re: these units on the various boards and threads, it really helped make an informed decision.

worx
12-17-2008, 11:36 PM
Does the PZ80U consume about the same amount of power as the PZ85U? The PZ85U sucks up a lot of power according to this chart from cnet: reviews.cnetdotcom/4520-6475_7-6400401-3.html?tag=rb_content;rb_mtx
(delete the dot)

454.51 watts for a 46 inch?

PFC5
12-18-2008, 10:00 AM
Amazon had the Panny TH-50PZ800U @ $1779 including the white glove delivery again today, so the trigger was pulled.

Also orderd the Panasonic DMP-BD35K but didn't get the best price, but then it needs to be here with the TV for the Christmas present to be complete. Could have waited but as others have noted, you can wait and wait and wait or get and enjoy it!

Thanks to all for their posts re: these units on the various boards and threads, it really helped make an informed decision.

Check out this deal on the BD35 through amazon. You can get 6 BD movies and the player for about $250.00 here:

http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/Panasonic_DMP-BD35K_Blu-ray_Player_203_with_4_Free_Movies.shtml#manual-add

Apparently the page with the deal isn't working but this site has the links to do the deal, but just scroll down for the links.

PFC5
12-18-2008, 10:03 AM
Does the PZ80U consume about the same amount of power as the PZ85U? The PZ85U sucks up a lot of power according to this chart from cnet: reviews.cnetdotcom/4520-6475_7-6400401-3.html?tag=rb_content;rb_mtx
(delete the dot)

454.51 watts for a 46 inch?
I do not think those charts are accurate. Someone posted a Crutchfield.com link with more accurate numbers that were much lower on all the plasmas & LCDs