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Espn Hd Is Killinmg Me !!!!!!!

ITALIAN926
05-28-2005, 08:30 PM
These HD pillar boxes are crap ! The silver-white/ black lines are ghosting into my TV !! They seem to go away after a while but DAMN , if I watch ESPN too long, Im gonna have permanent burn-in? Dont these channels know that many of the HD sets out there have burn-in potential? Get rid of these fixed logo's , move shit around, change colors.. IM GETTING AGGRAVATED !

nowitall
05-29-2005, 11:29 AM
I complain a lot to the nets about their crappy banners that fill the screen, obscuring the action, and about the logos that never move (that imply that the viewer is too stupid to remember what channel he's watchin'), and they always tell me that nobody else has complained.

Add the annoyance of "reminders", that are shown during the program, of what you are watching now (we are too stupid to remember!) and of what is upcoming, and I sometimes wonder why I bother watching tv! :confused:

Bowis
05-30-2005, 07:09 PM
You knew this going in when you bought plasma. There is a good reason LCD panels are getting bigger and better. Even without the logos on the side bars, you'll still start to get side-bar burn in on a plasma after long periods of viewing. Don't blame the networks and their banners, blame the sales guys for not disclosing the disadvantages to plasma (beyond the cheaper price).

oblioman
05-30-2005, 07:18 PM
C'mon Bowis - Italian926 has a valid point. A point better served than the stationary logos. The logo's are there for copywrite and id reasons - but the stations can minimize burn-in by a more transparent logo. A momentary flash logo would also suffice.

CatManDoo
05-30-2005, 07:23 PM
These HD pillar boxes are crap ! The silver-white/ black lines are ghosting into my TV !! They seem to go away after a while but DAMN , if I watch ESPN too long, Im gonna have permanent burn-in? Dont these channels know that many of the HD sets out there have burn-in potential? Get rid of these fixed logo's , move shit around, change colors.. IM GETTING AGGRAVATED !
Those are very good suggestions. You'd think they could do it in a way that is imperceptible to the viewer. I can understand that they wouldn't want a whole lot of movement during a segment of the broadcast, but perhaps every time they go to commercial? Even just a slight realignment would help. And combine that with a slight change in colors. The only good thing about this is that they allow the viewer to stretch the picture themselves on 4:3 broadcasts instead of sending out a pre-stretched version themselves. I'd rather let my TV do the stretching than their broadcast. The real answer is to get EVERYTHING 16:9 widescreen ASAP!!! Do I hear an Amen?

slappy
05-30-2005, 07:31 PM
You knew this going in when you bought plasma. There is a good reason LCD panels are getting bigger and better. Even without the logos on the side bars, you'll still start to get side-bar burn in on a plasma after long periods of viewing. Don't blame the networks and their banners, blame the sales guys for not disclosing the disadvantages to plasma (beyond the cheaper price).


I dunno, id rather buy a 2,100 panny plasma than a 6000-7000 LCD set... those are way overpriced.

The point isnt that us plasma owners are cheap, these things are still freakin expencive, but the networks really oughtta put in transparent logos and do what they can to prevent burn in, Plasma's are not the only TV's that can get burn in.

RMCK104
05-30-2005, 08:11 PM
:(I got my bill for May,I check it very closely,Low and be hold I receive a Bill for a One time only for $4.99 ($5.00). I call and I ask Whats this one time only bill,Uh the person said,I'll be right back.I Hold for four mins & 32 sec and some Ya who thats trys two explain that it for some type of covarage you asked for at the start of your contract. wichI din't ask for. This is the same oufit D*that couldn't send me a bill for 3 mouths and then tried to put a late charge on my acount, Wrong.So a word to the wise,Check your bill each mouth closeely.RMCK104 :confused:

jpantelides
05-31-2005, 06:50 AM
Yes a Plasma TV is more at risk for "BURN IN" than most other TV's, but there are things that you can do to prevent this from occurring at a regular basis.

1. Never watch your TV with the side bars. Both your TV and your DIRECTV box will allow you to change the aspect of your picture. Yes this stretches the image and make everyone look obese. This is a price you paid when you went to a 16 x 9 format television and the FCC not mandating that every program be shown in "HD Wide Screen Format", as of yet.

2. Move your brightness down. The reason that you are having "burning" is that you have your brightness on your TV too high. If a program is too dark, that is because that is how the programming was shot. Before PLASMA, you could compensate for this without really decreasing the life of your television, but this is not the case with your plasma television.

Hope this helps.

ITALIAN926
05-31-2005, 07:41 AM
You knew this going in when you bought plasma. There is a good reason LCD panels are getting bigger and better. Even without the logos on the side bars, you'll still start to get side-bar burn in on a plasma after long periods of viewing. Don't blame the networks and their banners, blame the sales guys for not disclosing the disadvantages to plasma (beyond the cheaper price).

Find me a 50" LCD for $4000 and I'll agree with you. I dont even think they exist !
I knew ALL the disadvatages AND advatages when I bought my plasma . But for me, there were more advantages for the plasma. Im talking about an HD channel that has striped piller boxes which ghosts into my screen after a while. If it was still an ordinary channel, I wouldnt have made the complaint. Many of the HD TV's out there are DLP or plasma, they should consider making changes to their side bars. They have a very LIGHT and transparent ESPN logo.. obviously thinking about us... so theyre halfway there.

holeinone9
06-03-2005, 01:20 PM
I just purchased a Hitachi LCD 60" (60VX950) Director's Series at Sound Waves in Ohio for $3800. So far I am impressed.

ITALIAN926
06-03-2005, 02:17 PM
Ok... is that projection or flat panel, I shouldve been more specific :p

borromini
06-03-2005, 06:53 PM
For $3,800, it's definitely an RPTV.

artie
06-04-2005, 09:24 AM
I understand that DLP tv's do not burn on still objects correct me if I am wrong :yippee:

CatManDoo
06-04-2005, 10:13 AM
I understand that DLP tv's do not burn on still objects correct me if I am wrong :yippee:

You're not wrong:
No-Burn (http://www.highdefforum.com/showpost.php?p=46881&postcount=2)

ljp416jmp
06-04-2005, 02:23 PM
He had the model # wrong...it's 60VX915, not 60VX950...anyway, 60" FP lcd's ain't available yet...it's rear projection LCD...LP

bases1616
06-04-2005, 04:03 PM
ITALIAN926,

That is why I did not buy a plasma tv. The main problem with plasma is the burnout in the screen. The picture looks a little better, but I love my DLP. Just watch ESPN when the broadcast is in HD. Other than some minor problems, HD rules. I can't wait for DTV to launch the additional HD channels later this year or early next year.