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Am I stealing HD channels??

Ruark
11-20-2008, 08:45 PM
Tonight I hooked up my new Samsung LN52A750 to the cable. See the thread "Woo! Just plugged it in!" for details.

Now, we just have the VERY basic cable, from Time Warner, just 22 channels, and those are the major networks, a couple of PBS stations, a C-Span, WTBS, and a couple of Spanish stations. That's it.

But on this TV, I'm picking up all kinds of stuff we normally don't get, including HD versions of all the major network stations and the PBS stations. Their channel numbers are way up in the 1500's. The picture is gorgeous, so realistic it's almost scary.

But am I going to get in trouble with Time Warner for channel theft? Can they detect what's going on here?

Ruark

XDRoX
11-20-2008, 09:08 PM
Tonight I hooked up my new Samsung LN52A750 to the cable. See the thread "Woo! Just plugged it in!" for details.

Now, we just have the VERY basic cable, from Time Warner, just 22 channels, and those are the major networks, a couple of PBS stations, a C-Span, WTBS, and a couple of Spanish stations. That's it.

But on this TV, I'm picking up all kinds of stuff we normally don't get, including HD versions of all the major network stations and the PBS stations. Their channel numbers are way up in the 1500's. The picture is gorgeous, so realistic it's almost scary.

But am I going to get in trouble with Time Warner for channel theft? Can they detect what's going on here?

Ruark

The major stations broadcast HD over the air. That's what you are picking up. Fox, CBS, NBC, PBS, and a few others. On my TV, CBS is channel 8. If I type in 8.1 on my remote then I get HD channel 8. It works with all the major stations. I am surprised not everyone knows about this.
So don't worry, enjoy. And try some .1 channels, you may have more than you thought.

PFC5
11-21-2008, 01:37 AM
If the cable company didn't want you to have these channels, they would scramble them to require a STB (and additional fees), so don't worry.

DoctorCAD
11-21-2008, 07:03 AM
It's the QAM tuner picking them up.

PFC5 is correct, if the cable company wanted to block them, they would.

You are NOT stealing anything.

Ruark
11-21-2008, 08:47 AM
The major stations broadcast HD over the air. That's what you are picking up. Fox, CBS, NBC, PBS, and a few others. On my TV, CBS is channel 8. If I type in 8.1 on my remote then I get HD channel 8. It works with all the major stations. I am surprised not everyone knows about this.
So don't worry, enjoy. And try some .1 channels, you may have more than you thought.

No, these aren't the .1 channels. These are the cable channels. The major stations are on 2, 3, 4 and 5, and I'm getting their HD versions on 1501, 1511, 1521 and 1522, respectively, in addition to half a dozen other channels I've never seen before. For example, KVUE, our ABC affiliate (ch. 3/1511), has a "KVUE2" which is 24/7 weather, and I get that.

Actually, this remote doesn't even have a "." button.....:haha:

Ruark

admo
11-21-2008, 09:43 AM
Actually, this remote doesn't even have a "." button.....:haha:

Ruark

Well, your Samsung remote probably has the "-" button. For example, on my Samsung and Comcast in NJ, 4-1 is NBC-HD, 4-2 is NBC weather, and 4-3 is NBC standard def.

DoctorCAD
11-21-2008, 11:19 AM
It's the QAM tuner picking them up.


Quote from first post ..."Tonight I hooked up my new Samsung LN52A750 to the cable."

OP has the cable plugged in. IT IS NOT OTA being picked up!

soupnazi
11-21-2008, 11:45 AM
Quote from first post ..."Tonight I hooked up my new Samsung LN52A750 to the cable."

OP has the cable plugged in. IT IS NOT OTA being picked up!


I'm in Canada and apparently the QAM doesn't work here :mad:

Anyways, I believe that the QAM tuner picks up OTA signals through the cable signal.
Or am I wrong?

admo
11-21-2008, 12:04 PM
Quote from first post ..."Tonight I hooked up my new Samsung LN52A750 to the cable."

OP has the cable plugged in. IT IS NOT OTA being picked up!

Well, as we use the term, yes it is. While OTA is "Over the Air", and indeed he is using the cable from the cable company, we use the term interchangable. Many cable companies are required to carry what would be free "over the air" HD signals in all cable subscribers cables. So even if you have the bare minimum standard definition plan from your cable provider, you get what we call the OTA HD signals through that cable, just the same as if you had a HD antenna on your house.

gwhoughton
11-21-2008, 12:53 PM
No, these aren't the .1 channels. These are the cable channels. The major stations are on 2, 3, 4 and 5, and I'm getting their HD versions on 1501, 1511, 1521 and 1522, respectively, in addition to half a dozen other channels I've never seen before. For example, KVUE, our ABC affiliate (ch. 3/1511), has a "KVUE2" which is 24/7 weather, and I get that.

Actually, this remote doesn't even have a "." button.....:haha:

Ruark

I'm sure that the cable company merely re-routs the HD versions of the major networks to the channels you listed, that's all. Since the networks BROADCAST their HD equivilants OTA for free, the cable company doesn't charge you to see them either... :2cents

Jim Bob Jones
11-21-2008, 12:57 PM
The simple and direct answer to the question posed in your thread is no.

DoctorCAD
11-21-2008, 03:31 PM
The simple and direct answer to the question posed in your thread is no.


Correct, but what fun would that answer have been as the first reply?:thumbsup: