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My first post here!! Please help me decide on which samsung to get

steeda911
11-18-2008, 05:43 PM
Hello everyone!! I hope things are going good for everyone. Well I have been reading on this site for awhile now and final decided to put a posting up. I am going to buy a tv this week and I have narrowed it down to two tv's. I was looking for some advise on which one to get. I was looking at:

Samsung PN58A650

and

Samsung PN58A550

Right now I can get the PN58A650 for $2699

and I can get teh PN58A550 for $1811

Is the A650 that much better of a tv? The only difference I can see is the contrast ratio, 1 extra hdmi and the ethernet plug on the back and the touch of color. If it was you which one would you get. Please give me your input and thank you for your time

Have a great day

marcallo
11-18-2008, 05:47 PM
I have a 46" A650 but that's a huge price difference right there between classes. Honestly I'd go look at them side by side or as close to it as possible in the store. I personally like the touch of color but it's a preference and it IS noticable. Also from what I saw the 550 wasn't as "glossy" as the 650.

In general if you are going to use a reciever for your switching of components and you don't need the extra Ethernet just get the 550 and spend that extra money on a REALLY nice mount with a good warranty.

Granted I don't know MUCh about this but those were my experiences. Also is that a PLASMA size or an LCD size? They use the same numbering scheme for both which is a bit confusing. I have the LCD and love it.

daleb
11-18-2008, 08:50 PM
Actually, the 650 is said to have a better screen coating, less reflective according to most reviews I've read. I've never done a one on one comparison myself.
There are few other differences that would not make any real difference in PQ. Most are convenience features.

steeda911
11-18-2008, 10:57 PM
Thanks for the reply guys. I am sorry for any confusion. The tv's I am looking at are plasmas. If anyone else has some comments please don't hesitate to add them.

PFC5
11-19-2008, 03:03 AM
Almost $900.00 difference seems way too much of a difference between these models. I would check out different stores and consider online if the store selection in your area is very limited.

I doubt I could justify the price difference to move up one model series in the same screen size myself.

zip2play
11-19-2008, 07:51 AM
I find the room reflections on plasma sets so irritatingly off-putting that I would caution everyone who is not buying a plasma for a dark theater-like setting to think twice.
Trying to enjoy a movie once your brain has focused on the reflection of a LAMP in your room is a real downer...no matter HOW HARD you try you cannot UNsee that lamp.


The price differential between those two similar sets is WAY too much...get the cheaper one (or a nice LCD:2cents!)

daleb
11-19-2008, 10:40 AM
Almost $900.00 difference seems way too much of a difference between these models. I would check out different stores and consider online if the store selection in your area is very limited.


I agree, the price diff should be less than $400.. I think it is around $200 for the 50". (talking typical street prices...)

steeda911
11-19-2008, 10:41 AM
Thanks for the input guys. Well the tv's I am looking at are coming from a very reputable internet site. The reason for the major difference in price is one of the tv's is an open box. I call and talked to a rep from the company and he said the tv was returned because the person that bought it stated the tv would not fit and he decided to go with a smaller tv. I was told it would come with the same warranty and there were absolutly no problems with the tv. The price difference betweent the two tv's brand new are

The A550 is $2,448.99

and

The A650 is $2,699.99

Oh and this price includes the shipping. Should I just buy a new one or should I just get the open box. I have bought many things open box just to save money. I have never had a bad experience doing this. Anyway your input would be great.

steeda911
11-19-2008, 11:05 AM
Okay guys I think I have decided to just go ahead and buy a new one. Which one would you buy?

The A550 is $2,448.99

and

The A650 is $2,699.99

marcallo
11-19-2008, 01:49 PM
Okay guys I think I have decided to just go ahead and buy a new one. Which one would you buy?

The A550 is $2,448.99

and

The A650 is $2,699.99


I probably would have bought the open box if you knew the retailer. But that being said I'd always go for a 650 over a 550 I LOVE the touch of color bezel. :D And I think it has extra inputs and an ethernet jack but I've never used that on mine.

daleb
11-19-2008, 02:44 PM
I probably would have bought the open box if you knew the retailer.



I agree, as long as the factory warranty is also valid.


... And I think it has extra inputs and an ethernet jack but I've never used that on mine.

Often extra inputs do come in handy later on. I've discovered that with other components over the years.

steeda911
11-19-2008, 03:33 PM
Hey just an update guys. I called today to get the open box but come to find out, the tv does not come with the factory warranty. It only comes with a 15day refund policy. This made me think twice about getting the tv. What would you guys do? If I bought the new one would get the 650 or the 550. Does the 650 have a better picture than the 550?

PFC5
11-19-2008, 03:40 PM
Hey just an update guys. I called today to get the open box but come to find out, the tv does not come with the factory warranty. It only comes with a 15day refund policy. This made me think twice about getting the tv. What would you guys do? If I bought the new one would get the 650 or the 550. Does the 650 have a better picture than the 550?

Hmmm. Doesn't sound very reputable if they don't allow the mfg warranty to be in effect, and only giving a 15 day return warranty for an online retailer would make me go elsewhere myself. Who is the retailer?

For a $250.00 difference in this price range i would take the 650 myself for the added inputs/features/adjustments.

steeda911
11-19-2008, 03:58 PM
The retailer is newegg. I was shocked as well when they told me that. I even read it in their policies. I am sure if I had a problem newegg would take care of it, just like they have taken care of me in the past but this did make me a little worried.

daleb
11-19-2008, 04:13 PM
Newegg is a good retailer, and may take care of you, but if you have problems at the minimum it will cost you in inconvenience. I don't think it is worth that.
$250 for the 650 and a fresh warranty? I also think that's your best option.

steeda911
11-19-2008, 05:30 PM
Okay I will probably get the 650. Do you guys think it is worth getting the extended warranty? Any input on this. I usually don't get extended warranties and have been very lucky in the past and not need them but what do you think about getting this one.

PFC5
11-19-2008, 10:43 PM
The retailer is newegg. I was shocked as well when they told me that. I even read it in their policies. I am sure if I had a problem newegg would take care of it, just like they have taken care of me in the past but this did make me a little worried.

I have heard that Newegg is not good at handling issues with their HDTVs that well and have read a few complaints about them in this regard. I would NOT assume they will do any more than what they list on their site for returns, etc. I think they are better with computer components myself, and I bought a few PC parts there though.

steeda911
11-19-2008, 10:47 PM
PFC5 thanks for the input.

daleb
11-19-2008, 10:48 PM
I have heard that Newegg is not good at handling issues with their HDTVs that well and have read a few complaints about them in this regard. I would NOT assume they will do any more than what they list on their site for returns, etc. I think they are better with computer components myself, and I bought a few PC parts there though.

Interesting, I've never heard anything negative about them. Although, like you I've only bought PC accessories, etc. from them.

bboncorr
11-19-2008, 11:29 PM
i would never ever in a million years buy another samsung product, let me explain why.

Samsung is known for rushing tech to the market so they can advertise more features then the comp. the issue with this idea is they don't have enough time to properly test their stuff. Samsung has so many cases issues with their product simply because they tried to cram everything they could into their products without testing them enough.

just look what happened when samsung went from normal 200lb crt's to the slim line. issues got so bad that class actions came up.

DLP's. samsung had a great year a few years back. they released a great DLP and everyone was all over it. the issue is the following year testers noticed a huge gap in construction quality. not long after issues started popping up all over the net. many major tech sites started questioning why Samsung would release such a great product just 1 year prior and then simply cut back on quality so much the following year.

more recent Samsung released a horriable line of Bluray players. they have easily been the worst part of this transition to BD media. it's gotten so bad that i myself have a $400 BD player sitting in my closet collecting dust because it needs updates every single week or recent movies will not play on it. not only that but the updates are not frequent enough if you watch new releases every week, as i do. then on top of that most of the time the updates simply don't work. just go to another tech forum and look for people with samsung BD players. you just don't get people saying how great their palyers are.

then comes the LCD/plasma. when i had my issue with my Sony XBR1 i talked a quite a few techs about Samsung. i was about to be in the market for a new tv since Best Buy was about to replace my XBR1. each tech told me flat out stay away from samsung. they have the cheapest glass and so many issues. i told him they were cheaply priced and each one stated, "you get what you pay for".

Panny and Pioneer are easily the better choices for flat panels. walk into a high end electronics dealer and you won't see Samsung or Sony products (unless it's a sony projector but that's talking $10k not a couple $k). you see brand like Pioneer and Panasonic. Panny is comparably priced to Samsung so going with them instead of Samsung is't a huge leap. going from Samsung to Pioneer is a major wallet buster. i ended up going from Samsung to Pioneer and let me tell you when those techs stated "You get what you pay for" they were not messing around.

daleb
11-20-2008, 02:06 PM
Fortunately your experience, as dreadful as it is, does not seem to be universal.
My last 3 Samsung purchases (over the last 2 years) (MP3 player, HD-DVD/BD player, and plasma) have been excellent.

But without hard data it is difficult to say how bad things are. I would be the first to rate them lower when it comes to reliability against popular competitive brands like Panasonic,..(certainly not Philips)... but all of that is based on what I've read and in direct contrast to my personal experiences.
Their latest LCD displays are quite phenomenal, and their plasmas have actually been quite competitive for a couple of years now.

Samsung DLPs were very good performance-wise, but had quite a few issues with color wheels and lamp ballasts from what I can remember. Their latest DLP front projectors are setting new standards also.

I avoid Sony at all costs any more, mainly because I don't feel they are worth the premium they charge for their name, and they are too restrictive with regards to proprietary interfaces and software. Even though I only had positive experiences with my last Sony rear projection, and none of the problems others were having.
Their LCD displays are also very good, but I think the black level is better on the Sammies and many professional reviews substantiate that.

Time will tell if Samsung's success will wither with age on their newest products.
For now, everyone has had different experiences with different brands. And I have heard differing stories talking to techs myself.
Although, most all calibration techs like how well Samsung LCDs and plasmas responds to adjustments. Granted, that's not a testimony for reliability.

I would always put Panasonic on top with regards to reliability, even over Pioneer. And Toshiba on top for customer service.