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WalMart HDTV??

pjbiii
05-23-2005, 10:58 AM
Walmart in my area has a RCA d27f750t for 289.99. It claims to be a HDTV. Is this possible!!?? :eek: :eek: I put one on hold. The picture looks the same as the 32" Panasonic sitting next to it, both playing the WalMart HDTV loop. I'm looking for an entry level HDTV for my living room, as well as something to hook my little Shuttle PC gaming box to in HD :D . Anyone heard anything? :bowdown:

RSawdey
05-23-2005, 12:44 PM
Depends on what you call an HDTV... this TV has a built in ATSC digital tuner, so it will not become obsolete when analog broadcasting is turned off. It has digital video inputs (DVI with HDCP). But Thompson calls it "DVD quality", meaning all HDTV is downconverted to letterboxed 480p. And it's an incredably tiny screen to be trying to view widescreen on. If you must buy one of these lower def digital SDTVs, I'd suggest the D30W750T, which is a widescreen version.

ajulius
05-23-2005, 07:32 PM
Walmart in my area has a RCA d27f750t for 289.99. It claims to be a HDTV. Is this possible!!?? :eek: :eek: I put one on hold. The picture looks the same as the 32" Panasonic sitting next to it, both playing the WalMart HDTV loop. I'm looking for an entry level HDTV for my living room, as well as something to hook my little Shuttle PC gaming box to in HD :D . Anyone heard anything? :bowdown:

$289, you sure on that?

Sams Club wanted $449 for the D27F750T.

$289 doesnt seem possible for that set.

RSawdey
05-24-2005, 09:09 AM
Sounds more like the price of the model WITHOUT digital tuner & inputs.

ajulius
05-24-2005, 02:16 PM
Sounds more like the price of the model WITHOUT digital tuner & inputs.

No, there is NO Tuner on that Model PERIOD. Sams Club had the exact same set for $449 online and sold out.

You can not get an HDTV set without digital tuner and inputs for $289 yet for a decent set. Even the stuff like Advent (which is garbage FYI) and Bestbuy's own low specification Insignia sets (Which are made by Orion just like some Toshiba's, Sansui's and others but with low specs) even cost more at around $379.

Im still waiting for a decent set for $400 even without digital tuner.

joe_danger
05-24-2005, 02:24 PM
I like Walmart for stuff like dog food and paper plates, but I can't justify buying electronics from them. Sure, I can get a no name plasma or LCD from them for $250 less than a Panny at Best Buy, but I know the Panny is worth more.

Until Walmart sells CURRENT NAME-BRAND models for less than the Best Buys and Circuit Cities, I'm only buying socks there.

ajulius
05-24-2005, 02:42 PM
I like Walmart for stuff like dog food and paper plates, but I can't justify buying electronics from them. Sure, I can get a no name plasma or LCD from them for $250 less than a Panny at Best Buy, but I know the Panny is worth more.

Until Walmart sells CURRENT NAME-BRAND models for less than the Best Buys and Circuit Cities, I'm only buying socks there.

Walmart is only cheap for Sanyo which they have an exclusive for. For any other TVs that are name brand, the other stores are CHEAPER like for Sonys + Panasonics and others.

Best place for me to buy electronics is PC Richards with bargaining down the price here in my area.

Bestbuy AND Circuit City are very expensive and will only match local store ads and all those keep the price high. You need a place you can haggle with thats Factory Authorized that provides good service. PC Richards service has always been very good around here.

The problem Im having is that there isnt any TVs yet for $400 for HDTV Ready (good sets) 26 or 27" sets even at deep deep discount so that PC Richards can match the price. Can be with or without tuner. If its a model that PC Richard does not carry I will buy elsewhere if that store had a super deal such as this RCA for $289 at WalMart. However I honestly doubt WalMart would be able to undercut its OWN Sams Club which is a warehouse store and is charging $449.

If it is let me know and I will drive over to WalMart and pick as many of these up as I can and even resell them on ebay. :-)

pjbiii
05-27-2005, 11:17 PM
The model I bought is not a SDTV with a ATSC tuner, they have 5 of those, and mine is not one of them

Check this out (http://tv.rca.com/en-US/04282005_Spotlight.html)

I did get it, and the DVI port works great for my new shuttle HTPC, I'm waiting for TimeWarner to setup a HD DVR unit to replace my SD DVR, I will make an updte on how it looks then

So far the picture with SD/DVD is AWSOME!!!

PS- Anyone used the HD DVR from TimeWarner yet, if so, hows it look

!!Five more days!!!

pounda
05-29-2005, 01:20 AM
The Sanyo sets that Wal-mart sells are worth looking at, I Have an Ht-30744 and it is a great deal. They are now selling a scaled down version, 28" for $575 or less. When will they get rid of the stupid speakers on the side to allow for a wider screen in a smaller cabinet?
Why can't they put the speakers across the top (or bottom?)?

Lots of video snobs on the site wouldn't buy a pencil at Wal-mart, never mind a TV. CRT Tv's give the best picture, and these Sanyo sets are the best deal. Go buy an LCD or Plasma and compare sizes to your friends while I watch my CRT with the best picture!

CatManDoo
05-29-2005, 01:26 AM
I like Walmart for stuff like dog food and paper plates, but I can't justify buying electronics from them. Sure, I can get a no name plasma or LCD from them for $250 less than a Panny at Best Buy, but I know the Panny is worth more.

Until Walmart sells CURRENT NAME-BRAND models for less than the Best Buys and Circuit Cities, I'm only buying socks there.
After reading your post, I now find it more difficult to hate the Giants. That stuff about dog food, paper plates, and socks was hysterical!!! Can anyone else read that and not fall off your chair?:D :D :D

Traak
05-29-2005, 07:04 AM
You can not get an HDTV set without digital tuner and inputs for $289 yet for a decent set. Even the stuff like Advent (which is garbage FYI) and Bestbuy's own low specification Insignia sets (Which are made by Orion just like some Toshiba's, Sansui's and others but with low specs) even cost more at around $379.



FYI, I have the 27" Advent and for $360 at Best Buy (was on sale a few months ago) Its just as good as my buddie's 30" that he paid over $700 for. This is my 2nd HD TV that I bought and use it in my bedroom. Its got awesome picture, awesome sound, looks good for the bedroom decor and not a single complaint. All this for under $400. I would recommend this set for secondary viewing locations or even people wanting to start into HD without spending a lot of cash. I would buy it again with no second thoughts.

This unit has 2 HD inputs for your DTV or cable and one for your DVD player or Xbox..and let me tell you if you have a Xbox, you must play games in the HD mode..Halo2 is amazing.

CatManDoo
05-29-2005, 09:50 AM
FYI, I have the 27" Advent and for $360 at Best Buy (was on sale a few months ago) Its just as good as my buddie's 30" that he paid over $700 for. This is my 2nd HD TV that I bought and use it in my bedroom. Its got awesome picture, awesome sound, looks good for the bedroom decor and not a single complaint. All this for under $400. I would recommend this set for secondary viewing locations or even people wanting to start into HD without spending a lot of cash. I would buy it again with no second thoughts.

This unit has 2 HD inputs for your DTV or cable and one for your DVD player or Xbox..and let me tell you if you have a Xbox, you must play games in the HD mode..Halo2 is amazing.
But that set is 4:3 so doesn't that bug you when watching Hi-Def? Yeah, it's a great price, but HD on a 27 inch 4:3 set is like watching on a 22 inch widescreen :( . Oh well. Glad you like it. :)

p.s. That set is even cheaper now, both the regular price and the current sale price :eek: :

Advents @ Best Buy (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=cat12085&type=page&sc=Electronics&qs=advent&cp=1&sp=Relevance&mipp=25&uq=advent&_requestid=23293)

Traak
05-29-2005, 03:18 PM
For a bedroom it doesnt bug me and If I didnt have $1500-$2000 to smack down on a set then it wouldnt bug me. The screen does change to 16:9 when HD programming is on and when watching SD the picture is great as well. It has all the options as the big sets. I was merely stating the Advent 27" is not crap for a beginner set or secondary set.

WOW! I just looked the BB link you provided..WOW!

RSawdey
05-29-2005, 05:35 PM
As we've been trying to tell you "changing to 16:9" is a bad way to go... you need to BE 16:9 (the new standard) and change to 4:3 (the old standard). This set will NOT give as good an HDTV image as your buddy's 30" widescreen by a long shot, and not just because it's 24" instead of 30".

Prices for 30" widescreen HD-ready sets at BB start at $665 now... they show a 25" 4:3 image.

CatManDoo
05-29-2005, 08:03 PM
For a bedroom it doesnt bug me and If I didnt have $1500-$2000 to smack down on a set then it wouldnt bug me. The screen does change to 16:9 when HD programming is on and when watching SD the picture is great as well. It has all the options as the big sets. I was merely stating the Advent 27" is not crap for a beginner set or secondary set.

WOW! I just looked the BB link you provided..WOW!
If that WOW is because of the price you saw, call the paramedics. :eek: The reason they're dirt cheap is that they are soon to be modern day "white elephants". But at least you should be able to get your money's worth before it's totally useless.

btw; When you get black bars top & bottom for true 16:9 HD, don't you wonder how many of the 1080 lines of resolution you're actually seeing? :confused: (and how many you're missing?).

CatManDoo
05-29-2005, 08:11 PM
This set will NOT give as good an HDTV image as your buddy's 30" widescreen by a long shot, and not just because it's 24" instead of 30".
Wouldn't the 16:9 image appear to be just under 22" on his 27" 4:3 set? (27*.81=21.87). :confused: Not looking to start a fight, but it's just so rare that you ever get anything wrong.... :bowdown: Or did I get this backwards???

Traak
05-29-2005, 08:29 PM
I know what your trying to say but I'm not sure if you understand what I'm saying. For a CHEAP HD tv..I mean cheap..This TV is well worth the money.. :) For some people, the difference of $400 between a 27" and 30" is not justifyable

My main HD set is a Panasonic projector in a small room in my basement and it does a wonderful job. I was just trying to say for a nice bedroom set and to play Xbox on, its perfect for me for the cost and that the Advent to me is not junk..even though I'd prefer another Pany or Mitsu.

CatManDoo
05-29-2005, 08:47 PM
I know what your trying to say but I'm not sure if you understand what I'm saying. For a CHEAP HD tv..I mean cheap..This TV is well worth the money.. :) For some people, the difference of $400 between a 27" and 30" is not justifyable

My main HD set is a Panasonic projector in a small room in my basement and it does a wonderful job. I was just trying to say for a nice bedroom set and to play Xbox on, its perfect for me for the cost and that the Advent to me is not junk..even though I'd prefer another Pany or Mitsu.
OK, I see what you're trying to say. I guess I sort of misunderstood the particulars of your situation. Sounds like it fits really well in this case.

RSawdey
05-30-2005, 05:38 PM
Wouldn't the 16:9 image appear to be just under 22" on his 27" 4:3 set? (27*.81=21.87). :confused: Not looking to start a fight, but it's just so rare that you ever get anything wrong.... :bowdown: Or did I get this backwards???

Typo... you're right... :bowdown:

Still think he should get a widescreen...

Traak
05-30-2005, 09:04 PM
Typo... you're right... :bowdown:

Still think he should get a widescreen...

I have one as my main:) This is a $340 TV that does HD for a bedroom..I would get a $700 widescreen but for a bedroom HD TV I can't justify the cost difference.

joe_danger
05-31-2005, 10:46 AM
After reading your post, I now find it more difficult to hate the Giants. That stuff about dog food, paper plates, and socks was hysterical!!! Can anyone else read that and not fall off your chair?:D :D :D

How can you hate the Giants? They fall into the loveable loser catagory. Unless of course you root for the Cowboys, Redskins or Eagles. Then it's a divisional thing, and I understand completly.

NCSteve
06-04-2005, 02:57 PM
If that WOW is because of the price you saw, call the paramedics. :eek: The reason they're dirt cheap is that they are soon to be modern day "white elephants". But at least you should be able to get your money's worth before it's totally useless.

btw; When you get black bars top & bottom for true 16:9 HD, don't you wonder how many of the 1080 lines of resolution you're actually seeing? :confused: (and how many you're missing?).

Hi - first time poster and new to HD so don't flame me for asking...but why will these units be worthless?

RSawdey
06-05-2005, 06:12 AM
Divide screen height in mm by pixel pitch, and multiply by .75... this will give lines of res based on mask pixels.

sebret1982
06-19-2005, 09:35 PM
Ever since I saw this TV at Walmart I've been looking all over for more information on this set. RCA doesn't have this on their website, and this is one of two websites that Google could find with the most information on it. Then I found a third site , Samsclub.com, that I was able to use Google's cahce feature on after a little fiddling. So I thought I'd give back a little - Hope you all Enjoy and sorry about the formatting, too much info.
27" RCA Flat TV D27F750T
-Features
TruFlat? tube is designed to provide a distortion-free viewing experience ideal for HDTV, digital broadcast and emerging applications TruScan Digital Reality? Intelligent Signal Processing recognizes incoming signals and progressively converts them to achieve optimum digital picture Automatically reverts converted film source material for best picture Digital 3-Line Comb Filter separates black-and-white detail from color information to virtually eliminate edge crawls and rainbow effects while enhancing picture resolution HD Component Input (Syncroscan?) Auto-adjusting input allows a wide array of component compatible equipment (e.g. DVD/ Satellite) to be connected Helps simplify hook-up process DVI Input with HDCP: DVI-HDTV allows transmission of (uncompressed digital) video signals from a set-top box to a digital TV DVI delivers the purest digital transmission available today Expanded Stereo with Dynamic Bass: Uses the TV's left and right speakers to create a "live performance" experience Sub-Woofer Output: Allows powered sub-woofer to be connected directly to the TV without the need for a separate audio receiver Dimensions: 23.5"H x 31.0"W x 21.6"D
-Product Specifications
Picture: Screen Size: 27" diagonal Category: HDTV Monitor Aspect Ratio: 4 x 3 CRT/Light System: TruFlat? Screen Type: TruFlat? INVAR Shadow Mask Video Noise Reduction: Adaptive Progressive Scan 3:2 Reverse Pull Down Adjustable Color Temp Auto Color Balance (AKB) Dynamic Color Stretch Circuitry Scan Velocity Modulation - SVM Contrast Expand (Black and White Stretch): Low/Med/High Format Control Automatic Letterbox Detection Picture Presets: 6+Personal Pix Tube Pitch (Center): 0.9mm Horiz Resolution (Picture Width): 711 Picture Power (watts): 60 Wide Band Video Amplifier
-Sound:
Sound Type: Brdcst Str w/dbx Noise Reduction Second Audio Program (SAP) Audio Processor: Expanded Stereo w/Bass Boost Tone Control: 5-Band Graphic Equalizer Balance Control Front Speakers (number): 2 - Front Fired Total Watts: 20 Channels / Watts: 2 Channels, 10 Watts per Sound Logic? Audio Leveler: Yes Sound Presets: 7 Modes + Personal Headphone Adjustments: Bass/Treble/Volume
-Reception:
Tuning Capability: NTSC Digital Cable/Satellite Connections: YprPb/DVI ^ Digital Cable Ready
-Convenience:
Auto Channel Search Channel Labeling Commercial Skip Interactive Set-up w/ Menus Multilingual On-Screen Display: English/French/Spanish One-Button Launch for Inputs: Auto Tone Parental Control (V-Chip) Pic Memory Presets for Vid Inputs Picture Freeze Picture Reset Power On Indicator Timers: Clock/Sleep/Turn-On
-Rear Connectors:
RF Input (Antenna/Cable): 1 Audio/Video Inputs (Composite): 2 Left and Right Audio, 2 Video S-Video Input: 2 - Auto-Detectible Component Video Input (YPrPb): 1 Syncroscan? + L&R Audio DVI-HDCP (Digital Visual Interface): 1 DVI-HDTV Sub Woofer Output: RCA Phono Audio Outputs (Type): 2 Sets - Variable & Fixed A/V Outputs (Composite): 2 Sets - Variable & Fixed Gold Jacks
-Front Connectors:
Audio/Video Inputs (Composite): 1 Left and Right Audio, 1 Video S-Video Input: 1 - Auto Detectible Headphone Jack: 3.5mm Stereo

Rags11
06-21-2005, 07:18 PM
Depends on what you call an HDTV... this TV has a built in ATSC digital tuner, so it will not become obsolete when analog broadcasting is turned off. It has digital video inputs (DVI with HDCP). But Thompson calls it "DVD quality", meaning all HDTV is downconverted to letterboxed 480p. And it's an incredably tiny screen to be trying to view widescreen on. If you must buy one of these lower def digital SDTVs, I'd suggest the D30W750T, which is a widescreen version.


Where can you buy this widescreen version from? I cant seem to find it anywhere online.

RSawdey
06-22-2005, 06:37 AM
Hmmmmm... announced but never produced apparently... sorry about that, but you should look to other widescreens in this size, there's lots...

letsgoflyers81
08-24-2005, 11:16 AM
I picked up the D27F750T at my local Walmart last week and we just got our HD hooked up from Comcast today. Right now all the HD channels are being compressed to fit the 4:3 aspect ratio, squishing it all. I assumed the 16:9 channels would be letterboxed but they're not. Can anyone else with this television help? Thanks.

photoposite
08-26-2005, 12:30 AM
yeah man, i just replied to your post over on hdvoice. my name is photoposite.

RSawdey
08-29-2005, 02:34 PM
I picked up the D27F750T at my local Walmart last week and we just got our HD hooked up from Comcast today. Right now all the HD channels are being compressed to fit the 4:3 aspect ratio, squishing it all. I assumed the 16:9 channels would be letterboxed but they're not. Can anyone else with this television help? Thanks.

You shouldn't buy a 4:3 set for HDTV... all HDTV is widescreen.

Your problem is in the setup of your STB... you should output HD res as if the TV is a widescreen, and it will auto-letterbox HD signals. (1080i).