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Samsung 650 series 40" hdtv

motep1ne
11-15-2008, 03:57 AM
hello everyone i'm new here. i'm planning on buying a samsung 650 series 40" hdtv but while researching it i'm finding that some people are having problems with it shutting off. does anyone here have this tv and if so have you had this problem? and also i read where the 120hz motion plus feature makes blu ray movies look "fake"...is this so? thanks for your input.

s70driver
11-15-2008, 04:12 PM
Looking fake? Like extremely real looking, too real?

120Hz is one of the best features you can look for in an HDTV. Especially if your a sports fan.

Loves2Watch
11-15-2008, 05:07 PM
Looking fake? Like extremely real looking, too real?

120Hz is one of the best features you can look for in an HDTV. Especially if your a sports fan.

I have seen many here say it makes things look cartoonish. That's why I prefer plasma TV's as they don't exhibit that and have a comparative refresh rate of 480hz besides having better black levels and greater shadow detail.

motep1ne
11-15-2008, 07:54 PM
Looking fake? Like extremely real looking, too real?

120Hz is one of the best features you can look for in an HDTV. Especially if your a sports fan.

thank you for your input.that's what i want the feature for, sports but i've heard and read where people say it makes blu ray movies look like it was videotaped with a hand held video camera, but i understand you can turn the feature off correct?

I have seen many here say it makes things look cartoonish. That's why I prefer plasma TV's as they don't exhibit that and have a comparative refresh rate of 480hz besides having better black levels and greater shadow detail.

thanks for your input but i understand that lcd's have a longer life span.

Loves2Watch
11-15-2008, 08:27 PM
thank you for your input.that's what i want the feature for, sports but i've heard and read where people say it makes blu ray movies look like it was videotaped with a hand held video camera, but i understand you can turn the feature off correct?



thanks for your input but i understand that lcd's have a longer life span.

Actually that is incorrect. Plasma TV's have a half life of 100,000 hours, that is it would take 100,000 hours for the TV to be half as bright as it was originally. Plasma TV's in general have a much longer life expectancy than LCD TV's do.

The video taped thing you speak of I have also heard called it looks cartoonish. On most LCD TV's the 120hz can be turned off but again plasma is much better for sports, much better.

PFC5
11-15-2008, 11:32 PM
Plasmas (Panasonic at least) generally retain about 900 lines of vertical resolution with fast moving objects on screen out of 1080, and this is much better than ANY LCD can do. LCD mfg will not even mention what the resolution is with fast moving data because it would look bad compared to plasma specs.

Not all plasmas are rated at 100,000 hours but the new Panasonic models are. Most of the others are still rated at 60,000 hours, which is about the same rating as most LCD models till half brightness.

It basically is not an issue for most people since running either type for 16 hours per day every single day would take over 10 years to dim to half brightness with the 60k rating, and 17 years with a 100k rating.

What many people do not realize is that CRT tube TVs ALSO became dimmer over it's life too.

Loves2Watch
11-15-2008, 11:43 PM
Plasmas (Panasonic at least) generally retain about 900 lines of vertical resolution with fast moving objects on screen out of 1080, and this is much better than ANY LCD can do. LCD mfg will not even mention what the resolution is with fast moving data because it would look bad compared to plasma specs.

Not all plasmas are rated at 100,000 hours but the new Panasonic models are. Most of the others are still rated at 60,000 hours, which is about the same rating as most LCD models till half brightness.

It basically is not an issue for most people since running either type for 16 hours per day every single day would take over 10 years to dim to half brightness with the 60k rating, and 17 years with a 100k rating.

What many people do not realize is that CRT tube TVs ALSO became dimmer over it's life too.

I see the new Samsung plasma TV's are also advertising 100,000 hours and I believe I saw another make the claim as well.

PFC5
11-16-2008, 03:09 AM
I see the new Samsung plasma TV's are also advertising 100,000 hours and I believe I saw another make the claim as well.

Good to know about Samsung having 100K glass now too. I do know that the new Vizio high end plasmas also have 100K hours rating also, but they are reportedly using the Panasonic glass, but it is a 3rd company now.