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Any Philips HDTV Owners?

Cyberman
05-08-2005, 11:10 PM
I'm concerned if anyone out there owns the 30" Philips 30PW8420. It sells for around 674.99 @ C.C. which is pretty good for a set that has everything including HDMI. I've been shopping around for a new HDTV. How reliable is the set and the brand?

LazerBlast
05-12-2005, 05:51 PM
I have the 34" 34PW8502 it was $999 and it is amazing, I have been watching through a cable HD feed (comcast in Irving) and the locals look pretty goog, TBS is not bad, Discovery, INHD is amaZing.. the black levels push occationally but hey it isn't plasma... I actually bought this TV over a samsung DLP mainly because of the maintance costs with DLP...(and it's 1/2 the cost) BUT is is HEAVY!!! plus I live in an apartment and just don't need a huge TV. DVD's and xbox hooked up component look great..and all the options as far as picture stretching are great. 5+imputs are also a plus..the tv also looks very nice and the remote is simple and well thought out. I say kudos to Phillips...

CatManDoo
05-12-2005, 08:38 PM
I have the 34" 34PW8502 it was $999 and it is amazing, I have been watching through a cable HD feed (comcast in Irving) and the locals look pretty goog, TBS is not bad, Discovery, INHD is amaZing.. the black levels push occationally but hey it isn't plasma... I actually bought this TV over a samsung DLP mainly because of the maintance costs with DLP...(and it's 1/2 the cost) BUT is is HEAVY!!! plus I live in an apartment and just don't need a huge TV. DVD's and xbox hooked up component look great..and all the options as far as picture stretching are great. 5+imputs are also a plus..the tv also looks very nice and the remote is simple and well thought out. I say kudos to Phillips...
That is a really good price for a 34" Direct View CRT. Personally, I found Philips to be noticably inferior to other brands, but at about half the price it's hard to beat. I saw one side by side against the Sony XBR at a Tweeter store, and there was no comparison. Sony was MUCH more crisp and clear. However the Sony's run about $2 grand. I have a Zenith 34" W/S that I paid $1,800 for and I definitely love mine. And I have no trouble with black levels or colors. In fact, that is one of the definite advantages of my set. Philips treats a LOT of their products as commodities and consistently tries to be the low price option for average quality. I'm trying to be as objective as possible here, but I must admit that I used to work for a division of Philips until they sold us to another multinational giant. It's possible that I've allowed that pre-disposition to sway my opinion. :)

LazerBlast
05-13-2005, 07:58 AM
That is a really good price for a 34" Direct View CRT. Personally, I found Philips to be noticably inferior to other brands, but at about half the price it's hard to beat. I saw one side by side against the Sony XBR at a Tweeter store, and there was no comparison. Sony was MUCH more crisp and clear. However the Sony's run about $2 grand. I have a Zenith 34" W/S that I paid $1,800 for and I definitely love mine. And I have no trouble with black levels or colors. In fact, that is one of the definite advantages of my set. Philips treats a LOT of their products as commodities and consistently tries to be the low price option for average quality. I'm trying to be as objective as possible here, but I must admit that I used to work for a division of Philips until they sold us to another multinational giant. It's possible that I've allowed that pre-disposition to sway my opinion. :)
I would tend to agree with catman, and have read some good and some bad about phillips, however I was looking at an XBR for $1500 side by side comparison at a few different retailers and after changing the color temp on the phillips unit I could get it to look just as sharp as the Sony, Color-wise that is.. the black levels are as I said in my original post are off a bit, but I have not tried a HDMI input or tried much to adjust it out,,, the white levels (which can be troublesome) are great on the phillips) for the money it's a great set.

CatManDoo
05-13-2005, 07:57 PM
I would tend to agree with catman, and have read some good and some bad about phillips, however I was looking at an XBR for $1500 side by side comparison at a few different retailers and after changing the color temp on the phillips unit I could get it to look just as sharp as the Sony, Color-wise that is.. the black levels are as I said in my original post are off a bit, but I have not tried a HDMI input or tried much to adjust it out,,, the white levels (which can be troublesome) are great on the phillips) for the money it's a great set.
An XBR for $1,500 ? Was that a 30" set, because I don't remember seeing any 34" XBR's for under $2 grand. May I ask where it was that you saw one at that price (if it was a 34")? When I got my 34" Zenith a year ago for $1,800 it was about $400-500 less than the XBR Sony's. Personally, I think almost all these Direct View CRT's are really good values and a great way to enter the world of HDTV. I've read that manufacturers are coming up with ways to cut about 1/3 off the depth of these monstrosities so they'll be "only" about 15 inches deep, but unfortunately they can't do much about their excessive weight (160-200 Lbs).

LazerBlast
05-16-2005, 03:10 PM
An XBR for $1,500 ? Was that a 30" set, because I don't remember seeing any 34" XBR's for under $2 grand. May I ask where it was that you saw one at that price (if it was a 34")? When I got my 34" Zenith a year ago for $1,800 it was about $400-500 less than the XBR Sony's. Personally, I think almost all these Direct View CRT's are really good values and a great way to enter the world of HDTV. I've read that manufacturers are coming up with ways to cut about 1/3 off the depth of these monstrosities so they'll be "only" about 15 inches deep, but unfortunately they can't do much about their excessive weight (160-200 Lbs).

It was the 34" XBR for $1500 at best buy I am not sure if it was only in the Dallas/Ft Worth area... Yea I am super happy with the direct view /CRT. Now that I see the Sony was a steal at $1500 I wish I would have picked it up at that price, but the phillips. I have found that the Phillips does not support 720P (so my x-box games at 720P) do not work, and default to 480). I am interested if the DVD players that upconvert to 720/1080i will work to their full potential on my set???

RSawdey
05-16-2005, 05:10 PM
CRTs don't really support 720p, whether they accept the signal or not. They must format convert it to 1080i for display. If you want the advantages of 720p, progressive scan & faster framerate, you need something besides a CRT TV.

xXRustyC5Xx
05-26-2005, 08:36 PM
Philips suck!!!!!!!! i had on 34 hdtv i sent it back its horrrible

rickbbb
05-27-2005, 10:39 AM
When HDTV's first came out I bought a Phillips for over $3,400.With tax and a service plan it came to over $4,000.

It was a good tv..but not as good as a Sony or Hitachi. :)

Jon Walker
05-29-2005, 07:57 PM
I went with the Philips 30PW8859 a few years ago as my first HD capable TV. Have been reasonably satisfied with it for previous use with various progressive DVD players/recorders. Only added Dish DVR921 about a week ago for regular satellite HD programming. Wasn't ready at the time to take a chance on plasma technlogy and don't particularly like (or have room for) large projection models. Purchase was made as an interim measure while I wait for new plasma technology to become more perfected and, more importantly, to countinue to drop in price. Still find it performs well for my purposes but it is showing its age. But then I tend to be slow to switch to new things. (Just got my first digital cinema monitor for my computer this month after nearly 18 months of procrastination.)

CatManDoo
05-29-2005, 09:06 PM
I went with the Philips 30PW8859 a few years ago as my first HD capable TV. Have been reasonably satisfied with it for previous use with various progressive DVD players/recorders. Only added Dish DVR921 about a week ago for regular satellite HD programming. Wasn't ready at the time to take a chance on plasma technlogy and don't particularly like (or have room for) large projection models. Purchase was made as an interim measure while I wait for new plasma technology to become more perfected and, more importantly, to countinue to drop in price. Still find it performs well for my purposes but it is showing its age. But then I tend to be slow to switch to new things. (Just got my first digital cinema monitor for my computer this month after nearly 18 months of procrastination.)
Whoa, Deja Vu! That is exactly the same game plan I'm going through. :bowdown: I didn't mind spending $1,800 to get me through a couple years, but when I get my permanent set I want it to be a "keeper".

Game plan (http://www.highdefforum.com/showpost.php?p=45190&postcount=9)