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PS3 & external HDD - how to move videos?

sslamster
08-01-2008, 11:42 AM
I recently downloaded all 13 episodes of "The Unit" from the PS store but they downloaded to my internal HD. I have a 500GB external HD attached to my PS3 which contains all of my regular DVD collection and I would like to keep all video and media on the external HD. Does anyone know how to move video files from the internal HD to the external HD without removing the internal HD from the PS3? Hitting the options button (on a video file) and choosing copy brings up a message to plug in a PSP (which I don't own). Thanks in advance.

awol
08-01-2008, 11:51 AM
I don't think that you can. Much like Live won't download to an external device for DRM reasons, I believe Sony's is the same way. Dunno for sure, but I think I remember reading that somewhere.

sslamster
08-01-2008, 12:00 PM
I was afraid of that. Is there perhaps a piece of software that will allow one to get around the technicalities?:)

I mean, I did buy the media; why shouldn't I be able to choose where I want to store it?:)

awol
08-01-2008, 12:20 PM
I was afraid of that. Is there perhaps a piece of software that will allow one to get around the technicalities?:)

I mean, I did buy the media; why shouldn't I be able to choose where I want to store it?:)

Ah Sony. King of DRM. :rolleyes:

There probably will be at some point, but I'm not aware of one yet.

EddieDZ
08-01-2008, 12:20 PM
i always thought you could copy/move videos from the PS3 HDD to a external HDD.. i mean whats the point of having a external HDD anyway then right?... i swore all you had to do was press triangle while on the XMB and select copy...

does your PS3 even register your external HDD?

awol
08-01-2008, 12:21 PM
i always thought you could copy/move videos from the PS3 HDD to a external HDD.. i mean whats the point of having a external HDD anyway then right?... i swore all you had to do was press triangle while on the XMB and select copy...

does your PS3 even register your external HDD?

His is stuff he DL'd from the PS store. It's like a game. You can't transfer the game or movie off the internal drive.

sslamster
08-01-2008, 12:26 PM
i always thought you could copy/move videos from the PS3 HDD to a external HDD.. i mean whats the point of having a external HDD anyway then right?... i swore all you had to do was press triangle while on the XMB and select copy...

does your PS3 even register your external HDD?

Yes, I can see the external HD and have access to all of my DVD's which I have stored on there. Like awol said, I downloaded the content from the PS store so it's probably a DRM issue. I hope that Sony would address this in a future firmware update. I was going to buy several TV series titles from the PS store instead of buying the DVD box sets from Amazon, but for now it looks like I will be stuck buying the DVD's and ripping them manually to my ext. HD.:(

EddieDZ
08-01-2008, 12:30 PM
His is stuff he DL'd from the PS store. It's like a game. You can't transfer the game or movie off the internal drive.

thats weird.... if i download a video from the PS store (not a movie, but just like a game trailer) i am able to copy that video file from the PS3's HDD to either my PSP or even any memory card (e.g. SD card).. and what not... maybe its different with external HDD's? or maybe its different with the new video service...

Pinoy
08-01-2008, 12:41 PM
thats weird.... if i download a video from the PS store (not a movie, but just like a game trailer) i am able to copy that video file from the PS3's HDD to either my PSP or even any memory card (e.g. SD card).. and what not... maybe its different with external HDD's? or maybe its different with the new video service...

I think the difference there is it's a copyrighted movie. Sony probably hasn't allowed this because then you could just plug in a couple of differrent external HDs and voila instant piracy.

Hopefully they create a 'move' function that copies the movie to an external drive while deleting it off the HDD.

awol
08-01-2008, 01:12 PM
thats weird.... if i download a video from the PS store (not a movie, but just like a game trailer) i am able to copy that video file from the PS3's HDD to either my PSP or even any memory card (e.g. SD card).. and what not... maybe its different with external HDD's? or maybe its different with the new video service...

There's a difference between say a trailer, and an episode. Trailers, I could see moving no problem. They're free anyway. But not the episodes.

EddieDZ
08-01-2008, 01:32 PM
ahh.. gotcha.. that would then make sense then yes..

venomxr8
08-01-2008, 10:22 PM
maybe use the ps3's backup utility to create a backup of your entire ps3 drive onto your external drive. Hopefully the downloaded movies will be backed up and even though you wont be able to watch them from your external drive, you will have them saved in case your ps3 drive craps out/or you upgrade to a bigger drive. Then just do a restore and they will be back.

sslamster
08-01-2008, 10:34 PM
maybe use the ps3's backup utility to create a backup of your entire ps3 drive onto your external drive. Hopefully the downloaded movies will be backed up and even though you wont be able to watch them from your external drive, you will have them saved in case your ps3 drive craps out/or you upgrade to a bigger drive. Then just do a restore and they will be back.

Nice, I hadn't thought of that. I will try it. I do hope that a future firmware upgrade allows for offloading copyrighted media to an external drive. In fact, I can't see how it wouldn't be in the works especially since they just launched the movie section of PSN. I can't imagine they think that everyone who owns a PS3 will upgrade their internal HD to accomodate downloaded media. Even though it is easy to do, I'm sure that there are some who would rather just plug in a USB drive and call it a day.:)

venomxr8
08-02-2008, 12:03 AM
Nice, I hadn't thought of that. I will try it. I do hope that a future firmware upgrade allows for offloading copyrighted media to an external drive. In fact, I can't see how it wouldn't be in the works especially since they just launched the movie section of PSN. I can't imagine they think that everyone who owns a PS3 will upgrade their internal HD to accomodate downloaded media. Even though it is easy to do, I'm sure that there are some who would rather just plug in a USB drive and call it a day.:)

yea i know, i dont understand it either, i mean you PAYED for the media, you should be able to store it wherever you want.

Pinoy
08-02-2008, 01:46 AM
maybe use the ps3's backup utility to create a backup of your entire ps3 drive onto your external drive. Hopefully the downloaded movies will be backed up and even though you wont be able to watch them from your external drive, you will have them saved in case your ps3 drive craps out/or you upgrade to a bigger drive. Then just do a restore and they will be back.
Hey that's a good idea, somebody try that and let us know how it works!

yea i know, i dont understand it either, i mean you PAYED for the media, you should be able to store it wherever you want.

Try telling the DMCA that. I understand why DRM exists, but I'm all for fair use. I say punish the actual offenders and not the public at large for what they *might* do.

Chris Gerhard
08-02-2008, 06:47 AM
yea i know, i dont understand it either, i mean you PAYED for the media, you should be able to store it wherever you want.

Actually, no. You should be able to do whatever the rights you have purchased permits. If the rights only allow viewing the movie while stored on the PS3 internal hard drive, then you have the right to not buy the movie or only view it using the PS3 internal hard drive. I haven't purchased any movies for download to my PS3, but I believe if you read the disclosure, you will know what rights you have acquired. There is good reason for the studios to not permit removing the movie from the device it was downloaded to and it is obviously within their legal right to sell or restrict whatever rights they believe are in their best interest. As always consumers get to choose whether to accept the conditions or not buy the item. There is no unlimited use provision law permiting consumers to do whatever they want with a purchased movie despite the fact that claim is often made at various online sites.

I am not saying you aren't permitted to remove the movie or copy the movie, I am just saying it is within the technology and the law to place restrictions on movies you have purchased and I believe a disclosure of what rights you have purchased should be available when you purchase it. I don't know the specifics here since I have no interest in purchasing movies for download to my PS3.

Chris

sslamster
08-02-2008, 07:44 AM
Actually, no. You should be able to do whatever the rights you have purchased permits. If the rights only allow viewing the movie while stored on the PS3 internal hard drive, then you have the right to not buy the movie or only view it using the PS3 internal hard drive. I haven't purchased any movies for download to my PS3, but I believe if you read the disclosure, you will know what rights you have acquired. There is good reason for the studios to not permit removing the movie from the device it was downloaded to and it is obviously within their legal right to sell or restrict whatever rights they believe are in their best interest. As always consumers get to choose whether to accept the conditions or not buy the item. There is no unlimited use provision law permiting consumers to do whatever they want with a purchased movie despite the fact that claim is often made at various online sites.

I am not saying you aren't permitted to remove the movie or copy the movie, I am just saying it is within the technology and the law to place restrictions on movies you have purchased and I believe a disclosure of what rights you have purchased should be available when you purchase it. I don't know the specifics here since I have no interest in purchasing movies for download to my PS3.

Chris

Chris- that's a good point. I don't know about anyone else, but more times than not I just blindly accept the terms of use without reading it. It makes sense for the provider to protect their interest by restricting its availability to the originally downloaded device, but it sure makes it inconvenient for the law abiding consumer. This is really my first foray into downloaded content, aside from the few music videos I downloaded through Live, so it's the first time I am realizing the restrictions of DRM.

venomxr8
08-02-2008, 10:44 AM
Actually, no. You should be able to do whatever the rights you have purchased permits. If the rights only allow viewing the movie while stored on the PS3 internal hard drive, then you have the right to not buy the movie or only view it using the PS3 internal hard drive. I haven't purchased any movies for download to my PS3, but I believe if you read the disclosure, you will know what rights you have acquired. There is good reason for the studios to not permit removing the movie from the device it was downloaded to and it is obviously within their legal right to sell or restrict whatever rights they believe are in their best interest. As always consumers get to choose whether to accept the conditions or not buy the item. There is no unlimited use provision law permiting consumers to do whatever they want with a purchased movie despite the fact that claim is often made at various online sites.

I am not saying you aren't permitted to remove the movie or copy the movie, I am just saying it is within the technology and the law to place restrictions on movies you have purchased and I believe a disclosure of what rights you have purchased should be available when you purchase it. I don't know the specifics here since I have no interest in purchasing movies for download to my PS3.

Chris

i understand its all laid out in the disclosure, but that doesnt mean I have to agree with it but thats why I dont ever purchase any movies via downloads, I prefer owning the physical media on disk. That way I can watch it wherever I want to.

Chris Gerhard
08-02-2008, 12:13 PM
i understand its all laid out in the disclosure, but that doesnt mean I have to agree with it but thats why I dont ever purchase any movies via downloads, I prefer owning the physical media on disk. That way I can watch it wherever I want to.

I agree and that is one of the reasons I think Blu-ray will continue to enjoy a significant market even after downloading HD is convenient and accessible. I like having the discs and if that places me in a minority, that is ok, I just hope enough people agree with me that I can continue to own movies in the form I want and there has been nothing as good as Blu-ray to date in my opinion.

Chris

venomxr8
08-02-2008, 09:05 PM
I agree and that is one of the reasons I think Blu-ray will continue to enjoy a significant market even after downloading HD is convenient and accessible. I like having the discs and if that places me in a minority, that is ok, I just hope enough people agree with me that I can continue to own movies in the form I want and there has been nothing as good as Blu-ray to date in my opinion.

Chris

yep, totally agree, the thing is here in australia we dont even get the option to download movies via xbox or ps3, there is only 1 major cable tv provider and they only introduced HD channels (5 of them in 1080i) THIS MONTH, its been standard def for the past few years and from what ive heard the picture quality is nowhere NEAR what you get with blu ray.

Lawlyes2007
08-03-2008, 01:08 AM
i cannot get my ps3 to recognize my external hdd...how do you do it?

Pinoy
08-03-2008, 01:20 AM
i cannot get my ps3 to recognize my external hdd...how do you do it?

You have to format it to fat32 for the ps3 to recognize it. Please note that formatting the drive will erase anything that's on it.

I'm sure you'll ask how to do that next so I'm editing this in.

On your computer (don't plug the external drive in yet) press the windows key and E at the same time (the windows key is between the ctrl and alt keys on the bottom left of your keyboard)
This will open the 'my computer' window. On the left hand side of that window you'll see a listing of drives, pay attention to these. Now plug in your external drive to your computer, you should see it pop up in the 'my computer' screen as a drive, take note of what drive letter the computer assigns to the external drive (D: or E: or whatever, just remember it)

Now press the windows key and R, this should open a 'Run' command window on the bottom left, in the blank spot type in CMD and hit enter. This should open a command prompt window (it'll look like DOS with a black background)

Anyways, in that command prompt window type in the following. Where I put drive letter you should enter the letter for the external drive that I told you to remember earlier. Make absolutely sure the drive letter you put into the command is the external... I don't want to hear anybody crying about how they formatted their operating system or their cherished pictures because they put the wrong drive in okay?

format drive letter: /fs:fat32 /v: /q /x /a:32k


That should do a quick format to fat32 on your external drive properly. You can put your name/label for the drive after the /v: in the command I typed above (if you don't put anything it should make it blank.

Hope that helps.

HDMann
07-10-2009, 04:57 PM
I have two parts:
I am trying to setup my external Network Drive which is Fat32 formatted but am unable to see it with the PS3. Any suggestions?


About the copy protected : In the Sony Lit. it states that movies will not be copied and that you have access to any dl'd content you had on the original drive. So if you do a backup that content will not go with the backup.

Pinoy
07-11-2009, 04:47 AM
I have two parts:
I am trying to setup my external Network Drive which is Fat32 formatted but am unable to see it with the PS3. Any suggestions?
Go to video with the usb drive plugged in and hit the triangle button, then show all. If your stuff shows up that way you just need to create the proper VIDEO folder on your external and put your vids in there.

About the copy protected : In the Sony Lit. it states that movies will not be copied and that you have access to any dl'd content you had on the original drive. So if you do a backup that content will not go with the backup.

You can now back up DL'd content from the PSN store to an external, however to watch it you'll have to restore it to your ps3 first.

HDMann
07-13-2009, 12:22 PM
My drive has multiple connections, Ethernet and USB. I have the ethernet for my PC's and the USB for the PS3.

Go to video with the usb drive plugged in and hit the triangle button, then show all. If your stuff shows up that way you just need to create the proper VIDEO folder on your external and put your vids in there.



You can now back up DL'd content from the PSN store to an external, however to watch it you'll have to restore it to your ps3 first.
Good to know. Thanks

HDMann
07-13-2009, 01:57 PM
My drive has multiple connections, Ethernet and USB. I have the ethernet for my PC's and the USB for the PS3.


Good to know. Thanks

I have the Home network drive not the Home Media Network Drive :(