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HOLY CRAP! Killzone 2 2005 Render vs 2008 Gameplay

venomxr8
07-17-2008, 09:59 PM
It looks like the E3 2005 Target Render video for Killzone 2 has not only been met but exceeded! Check out the graphics comparison below, The left pics are the 2005 render and the right pics are 2008 actual gameplay footage!! Looks like we might have the new console Graphics King!!!

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff136/venomxr8/killzone2-e3-vs-now.jpg

Pinoy
07-17-2008, 11:05 PM
Pssssshh... whatever. The 360 could render the same thing but with almost 4x the pixels :rofl:

Its looking pretty good, the animations shown in the videos were 'buttery' smooth. Now I'm just hoping that it's not all all eyecandy and there is a real good game to back it up underneath all that.

Hitachi65SWX20B
07-17-2008, 11:59 PM
was this Actual game play with the person actualy playing it on the stage or was it game play Video?

venomxr8
07-18-2008, 12:15 AM
was this Actual game play with the person actualy playing it on the stage or was it game play Video?

real time, in game, gameplay

Pinoy
07-18-2008, 12:15 AM
was this Actual game play with the person actualy playing it on the stage or was it game play Video?

In game: http://e3.g4tv.com/e32008/videos/27004/Exclusive_Hands_On_Killzone_2.html

EDIT: Also some off camera footage:http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_7972_en.html

And some HD footage (450mb off a slow server though, might take you an hour or so to finish downloading) http://download2-east.gamespot.com/sd/D1p7ENajtiYBMnaMX88cIXudjRsgEQRnX0mm9XLY4VwJyihs4t 8Q24yLZsrqCdo7iw3d1paLW_xkAzprywnlTImmknO0pujb///d4/gsc/2008/07/169_killzone2_e308stage_ps3_vf_2_hd.wmv

MikeRox
07-18-2008, 03:43 AM
Looks almost as good as Mario Galaxy :thumbsup:

Pinoy
07-18-2008, 03:59 AM
Just got through watching the HD footage from the link I posted earlier. If you are interested in Killzone 2 then I really suggest taking the time to download it and watch it: It's worth the wait :bowdown:

http://download2-east.gamespot.com/sd/D1p7ENajtiYBMnaMX88cIXudjRsgEQRnX0mm9XLY4VwJyihs4t 8Q24yLZsrqCdo7iw3d1paLW_xkAzprywnlTImmknO0pujb///d4/gsc/2008/07/169_killzone2_e308stage_ps3_vf_2_hd.wmv

awol
07-18-2008, 08:42 AM
They were interviewed in EGM last issue. The guy said that while they never intended for anyone to think that the "target" E3 video was actual gameplay, someone at Sony stated that it was, and they never denied it, or something. I'm totally paraphrasing from memory.

Anyway, iirc, he did say that they're currently aiming at actually exceeding the target video to an extent in some situations. I'll say this, it better run a good framerate. The first one was a chugger. Fun, but a chugger.

Razor05
07-18-2008, 08:54 AM
Those screens look funny. It seems like the first set is washed out, with everything turned down, whereas the second set is bright and saturated like in a 'vivid' setting.

EddieDZ
07-18-2008, 01:12 PM
this was posted long ago

kamspy
07-18-2008, 02:16 PM
Funny

360 Guy: "KZ2 will never look like that!!!!"

PS3 Guy: "Yep, I know. It looks much better;)"

Pinoy
07-18-2008, 03:27 PM
So nobody has checked out the omg it takes too long to download video I posted :(

*sigh*

awol
07-18-2008, 03:48 PM
So nobody has checked out the omg it takes too long to download video I posted :(

*sigh*

Don't feel bad.... I can't while I'm at work, but will when I get home. :thumbsup:

railven
07-18-2008, 04:53 PM
Don't feel bad.... I can't while I'm at work, but will when I get home. :thumbsup:

Ditto for me too!

The site works on and off now, so that's good...I guess. :hithere:

Frendo
07-18-2008, 05:39 PM
I'd hope after 3 years of development it looks good. If you want amazing graphics check out Id's Rage its suppose to have an amazing engine and really push out amazing visuals.

brianh
07-18-2008, 07:24 PM
It would look the same on the 360.
Just sayin'.

venomxr8
07-18-2008, 08:50 PM
So nobody has checked out the omg it takes too long to download video I posted :(

*sigh*

downloading it now

brianh
07-18-2008, 09:04 PM
It looks fine, but not anything OMGZZZ like.
If this was designed to be make the 360 look bad, which I think it was, it doesn't really get there.

I'll still play it but, I don't see the HOLY CRAP part of it.

venomxr8
07-18-2008, 11:18 PM
It looks fine, but not anything OMGZZZ like.
If this was designed to be make the 360 look bad, which I think it was, it doesn't really get there.

I'll still play it but, I don't see the HOLY CRAP part of it.

What other game have you seen where the in game graphics are better than a pre rendered promotional vid?

Pinoy
07-19-2008, 01:38 AM
downloading it now

It's a pretty interesting video, I hope you enjoy it :)

venomxr8
07-19-2008, 01:44 AM
It's a pretty interesting video, I hope you enjoy it :)

cool vid! thanks for the link but what is an xbox 360 controller doing on the table!!!! is killzone going multiplatform??? :lol:

ps. how COOL do those character models look (especially the ones with the stealth cammo)

Pinoy
07-19-2008, 01:53 AM
cool vid! thanks for the link but what is an xbox 360 controller doing on the table!!!! is killzone going multiplatform??? :lol:

ps. how COOL do those character models look (especially the ones with the stealth cammo)

Well.... they also had a Wii-mote on the table as well. I noticed there was no DS3 on the table, made me wonder if the guys in the back were getting a 'demo' play of KZ2 :lol:
On a side note: There was a video of Nintendo legend Miyamoto-san playing the KZ2 demo at E3, and it received his stamp of approval :D (totally serious on that one)

The character models are excellent, and that stealth camo made drool. I particularly was impressed by the lighting and smoke effects. If the gameplay matches the graphics then this will be a :eyecrazy game!

venomxr8
07-19-2008, 02:17 AM
Well.... they also had a Wii-mote on the table as well. I noticed there was no DS3 on the table, made me wonder if the guys in the back were getting a 'demo' play of KZ2 :lol:
On a side note: There was a video of Nintendo legend Miyamoto-san playing the KZ2 demo at E3, and it received his stamp of approval :D (totally serious on that one)

The character models are excellent, and that stealth camo made drool. I particularly was impressed by the lighting and smoke effects. If the gameplay matches the graphics then this will be a :eyecrazy game!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff136/venomxr8/kzone.jpg

brianh
07-19-2008, 02:29 AM
Maybe I'm just jaded or something. I was blown away by the original vid like everyone else.

The game looks great and it will look amazing on a giant tv, but the WOWOW factor is lost on me now.
It doesn't look lightyears ahead of everything else anymore.
I'm sure it will be great.
Give me this and Gears 2 and I'm set for shooters.

Sounded to me like they could release the game today if it was up to them. But Sony has put Resistance 2 in the pipeline ahead of this so they have to wait.

Pinoy
07-19-2008, 02:34 AM
Maybe I'm just jaded or something. I was blown away by the original vid like everyone else.

The game looks great and it will look amazing on a giant tv, but the WOWOW factor is lost on me now.
It doesn't look lightyears ahead of everything else anymore.
I'm sure it will be great.
Give me this and Gears 2 and I'm set for shooters.

Sounded to me like they could release the game today if it was up to them. But Sony has put Resistance 2 in the pipeline ahead of this so they have to wait.

It's not ready yet. If you really study the video's you'll see little things that they haven't finished yet (like the ammo on the machine gun not being animated)

venomxr8
07-19-2008, 02:37 AM
Maybe I'm just jaded or something. I was blown away by the original vid like everyone else.

The game looks great and it will look amazing on a giant tv, but the WOWOW factor is lost on me now.
It doesn't look lightyears ahead of everything else anymore.
I'm sure it will be great.
Give me this and Gears 2 and I'm set for shooters.

Sounded to me like they could release the game today if it was up to them. But Sony has put Resistance 2 in the pipeline ahead of this so they have to wait.

a week ago I would have said gears 2 is more like gears 1.1 with no big improvement but I just watched some e3 footage of gears 2 that was set in an area that was completely engulfed in flames, marcus and co were stuck in a crumbling building under attack by a brumack. It looked spectacular, my hype meeter just went up a notch with Gears 2, cant wait for it.

Pinoy
07-19-2008, 02:46 AM
Gears2 does indeed look fantastic as well.... too many good games coming out soon for me to be able to play them all :o

I personally think Gears is worth a 360 by itself, and I'm seriously thinking about picking one up just so I can play it.
Either that or camp out at my buddies house for a week or two and I don't think the wife & kid would appreciate that :haha: <--me.

venomxr8
07-19-2008, 07:31 AM
GOOD GOD CHECK OUT THESE VIDS!!!!!:eek:
Graphics are INSANE
http://gamersyde.com/stream_8081_en.html

MikeRox
07-19-2008, 07:34 AM
:lol: damn my Nintendo fanboyism. Killzone 2 and Gears 2 leave me feeling cold. Yet that Fat Princess game, Little Big Planet and Banjo Kazooie etc get me excited as hell :D

EddieDZ
07-19-2008, 11:51 AM
GOOD GOD CHECK OUT THESE VIDS!!!!!:eek:
Graphics are INSANE
http://gamersyde.com/stream_8081_en.html

HOLY FUCK!, and to think theres still 6-7months left for development. that footage flat out destroy even cod4

brianh
07-19-2008, 05:33 PM
My brother in law sold his 360 to get a ps3 to play The Show.
I showed him a vid of Gears 2 and he's already wanting a 360 again! lol

That game is a system seller all by itself.
The campy dialogue is just ONE reason it kicks ass!
More games should be like that, don't take yourself too seriously.
I was laughing inbetween loving ripping the horde to pieces!

brianh
07-19-2008, 08:35 PM
I just watched a few gears 2 vids and a couple KZ2 vids.

The animations in KZ2 are incredible. The fire seems better, too.

But - and this is just based on a couple of vids, gears just looks more impressive. I mean the level quality.
That one level where the building was on fire? Holy sh*t! It looked like Hell.

I gotta hand it to MS on this one. Sony spent 2 billion to R+D the Cell and the 360 can do basically every the ps3 is able to do now.
They're essentially the same from what I've seen.
I own both so I don't care which one looks better, just sayin'.

When I started watching the gears vid I thought at first that it was a KZ vid lol.
Gears looks ridiculously good. KZ has it edged tho in animations I'd love to see a burning level like in what I just saw with gears.
To see that type of level in KZ2, would be something.

At the end of one vid in KZ2, there's a tank battle. Things get better once that happens. Before that tank battle it doesn't look that impressive, environment wise I mean.

venomxr8
07-20-2008, 01:22 AM
I just watched a few gears 2 vids and a couple KZ2 vids.

The animations in KZ2 are incredible. The fire seems better, too.

But - and this is just based on a couple of vids, gears just looks more impressive. I mean the level quality.
That one level where the building was on fire? Holy sh*t! It looked like Hell.

I gotta hand it to MS on this one. Sony spent 2 billion to R+D the Cell and the 360 can do basically every the ps3 is able to do now.
They're essentially the same from what I've seen.
I own both so I don't care which one looks better, just sayin'.

When I started watching the gears vid I thought at first that it was a KZ vid lol.
Gears looks ridiculously good. KZ has it edged tho in animations I'd love to see a burning level like in what I just saw with gears.
To see that type of level in KZ2, would be something.

At the end of one vid in KZ2, there's a tank battle. Things get better once that happens. Before that tank battle it doesn't look that impressive, environment wise I mean.

I beg to differ, although gears does look impressive, the jerkyness and unnatural looking movements of the characters detract from the overall experience, they also look like plastic figurines instead of flesh and blood. The lighting, animation, player models, smoke/fire effects are all superior in killzone imo

Pinoy
07-20-2008, 03:01 AM
I gotta hand it to MS on this one. Sony spent 2 billion to R+D the Cell and the 360 can do basically every the ps3 is able to do now.




Except the deferred rendering with AA, shading, transparency and decals you see in Killzone 2. It's one thing that the ps3 does that the 360 would absolutely struggle to do using the same type of rendering. Not saying the 360 couldn't do the same level of graphics but it would have to do it a completely different way (forward rendering, which is the norm)

Just remember that software enables hardware and always has. You can have a computer with the greatest specs in the world and be nothing but a fancy deskweight if you don't have the software to actually take advantage of it (this is the ps3's main problem)

Ntruder
07-20-2008, 09:53 AM
Still begs the question: is the game fun?

*edit* That video looked pretty awesome.

MikeRox
07-20-2008, 11:29 AM
I beg to differ, although gears does look impressive, the jerkyness and unnatural looking movements of the characters detract from the overall experience, they also look like plastic figurines instead of flesh and blood. The lighting, animation, player models, smoke/fire effects are all superior in killzone imo

We're also in diminishing returns with hardware now. So a 2x more powerful console wouldn't make a game look 2x better (not saying either is 2x more powerful than the other, just a reference).

Pinoy
07-20-2008, 01:14 PM
Still begs the question: is the game fun?

*edit* That video looked pretty awesome.

Indeed, graphics are *not* everything. KZ2 could very well end up being just a bunch of eyecandy, I seriously hope not though.

venomxr8
07-20-2008, 09:39 PM
We're also in diminishing returns with hardware now. So a 2x more powerful console wouldn't make a game look 2x better (not saying either is 2x more powerful than the other, just a reference).

I totally agree