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Help Me Decide - Samsung DLP vs Sony LCD

WolfpackRon
04-24-2005, 03:11 PM
I have been looking at Samsung DLP 50" TV's of varying model numbers and anxiously awaiting the new models like everyone else. For the first time my wife went with me to look at DLP TV's. She had previously said, "Find what you want to buy and I will come look at it." Next to the Samsung HL-P5063W is a Sony 55" KDF55WF655 LCD television. As I had noticed before, this Sony PQ is much clearer than the Samsung, especially when written text or numbers or symbols are displayed. She also noticed this as well. As I have been slanted towards the DLP's, tell me again why I should not buy the Sony with the better PQ as witnessed by my eyes and my wife's eyes. Every thing I read says DLP, but my own personal taste looking at PQ said to buy the new Sony 55" TV. I know there are pros and cons for all types of TV's but for Picture Quality, I seemed to prefer the Sony. Not trying to stir up the Samsung faithful, but having second thoughts. Please help me make up my mind. WolfpackRon.

milehighbri
04-24-2005, 03:41 PM
Buy the sony i already purchased the sammy and returened it after 3weeks and glad i did. If rainbows dont effect you frm dlp which you wont really know till you watch it for awhile and if you dont have hts and therefore wont have audio synch issues with sammy then get it if its cheaper. I would go with the sony and in fact i did i have the sony kdf50we655 now and i am much happier. Only one minor issue with this set and a i may call a tech or exchange for a new one since mine was a display model.
Check my other posts for mre details on DLP issues i had.
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Pakbackr
04-25-2005, 07:58 AM
Looked at the Sammys and the Sonys before selecting the 50 inch Panasonic DLP. I wanted to like the Sony, but couldn't get beyond the screen door effect. Once I saw it in the LCDs, I couldn't "not see" it anymore. I have had the Panny now for almost two months and couldn't be happier...unbelievably sharp picture and no SDE! And I have never seen the rainbow effect that I have heard DLPs have sometimes.

docjackson1
04-25-2005, 10:38 AM
i also have spent the last month looking and comparing 60" rptv's-both dlp and lcd. i don't understand though, why you are limitting your dlp to the sammys. to my eyes, the toshiba 62" had a better picture than the sony 60", except for the 60" xbr, but the xbr was almost $3000 more and didn't have an hdmi port. the choice is personal, but as the previous poster said, check out the other dlps.

leshabitants24
04-25-2005, 11:47 AM
That is what it boils down to. Personal preference. I had the sammy next to the 50 inch sony and i felt the other way.

HighdefDoug
04-25-2005, 11:51 AM
bottom line, buy the tv for features, costs and reliability. The picture you see at the store isn't the one you will see at home. One may have contrast, brightness, sharpness, or all of the above...turned up, down, or just plain off.

It is preference, I love my Sammy DLP, but just as many folks like their LCD's and Plasmas.

Clear as mud now, huh?

Camdogg
04-25-2005, 02:22 PM
Want to be even more confused? Look at the JVC D-ILA. Benefits of both technologies without the pitfals you've mentioned above. Then you'll still be fighting yourself becausethe Sammy faithful say there are reliability issues but see the picture is much better. It's a never ending battle. I was in your shoes a few months back. Had BB hook up the Sony and Sammy right next to eachother. I too noticed the clarity of the Sony but the color wasn't as natural (these of course were with store settings, although I played around with them). I'm sure you'll be happy with whatever you pick. To be safe though, look through some threads on the JVC before you decide. Then don't look back.

KnickFanatic
04-25-2005, 03:45 PM
Well I just purchased my Sony KDF42WE655 and I couldn't be happier. After a long battle with myself over this model and the Samsung I just chose the Sony because the base was small enough for my existing tv table. How's that for an educated selection? :)

Anyways all of my reading on the 2 product (Sammy and Sony) were so similar that I felt I would be happy with either purchase.

As someone else said read ... make selction... and don't second guess yourself!

dvdslw
04-25-2005, 05:08 PM
I also was considering both the Samsung DLP and Sony LCD and it came down to the best deal. I purchased the Sony KF60WE610 for $3.199.00 about 9 months ago and love it. If the Sammy was on sale for the same price I may have went the other way. At the time there was not as many options out there, I recently viewed the Toshiba DLP 62in model at Costco's and wow, it looked great and is 2 inches bigger than mine for the same price. Anyway, Sony is a good choice. :)

Majornutz
04-25-2005, 07:49 PM
I had probs with my Samsung dlp(50"). The color wheel was making a horrible grinding noise. I had it for 8 months started having probs in 3 months. I now own a Sony grand wega 50". I really like the Sony.

RSawdey
04-25-2005, 10:41 PM
My 2003 Sammy DLP works great, one bulb change under extended warrenty...

iserum
04-26-2005, 10:57 AM
I have been looking at Samsung DLP 50" TV's of varying model numbers and anxiously awaiting the new models like everyone else. For the first time my wife went with me to look at DLP TV's. She had previously said, "Find what you want to buy and I will come look at it." Next to the Samsung HL-P5063W is a Sony 55" KDF55WF655 LCD television. As I had noticed before, this Sony PQ is much clearer than the Samsung, especially when written text or numbers or symbols are displayed. She also noticed this as well. As I have been slanted towards the DLP's, tell me again why I should not buy the Sony with the better PQ as witnessed by my eyes and my wife's eyes. Every thing I read says DLP, but my own personal taste looking at PQ said to buy the new Sony 55" TV. I know there are pros and cons for all types of TV's but for Picture Quality, I seemed to prefer the Sony. Not trying to stir up the Samsung faithful, but having second thoughts. Please help me make up my mind. WolfpackRon.
if SDE is not an issue go with SONY, try it at home for 30 days and make up you mind then, SONY looks very good with our family room decor, sound quality of SONY Tv is very good. It will come down to your personal preference.

amf1932
04-26-2005, 12:07 PM
I, or anybody else who have viewed my Sony KDF42WE655 has NEVER seen this so called SDE effect on any programs, be they SD or HD. What are you guys doing.....putting your noses up against the screen? :p Try viewing at the normal distance that they call for, depending upon the screen size.

Alan

scrappler
04-26-2005, 12:20 PM
If you are comparing the 5063 with a sony 50' we655, I would say Sony has far superior PQ. I had the sony as my first choice until i saw a correctly callibrated Samsung 5085 and decided on that. (will be purchasing this week)

amf1932
04-26-2005, 02:52 PM
If you are comparing the 5063 with a sony 50' we655, I would say Sony has far superior PQ. I had the sony as my first choice until i saw a correctly callibrated Samsung 5085 and decided on that. (will be purchasing this week)
Did you ever see a properly calibrated Sony 50" we655? If you did, I'm sure you'd switch back to the Sony. :D

Alan

Steve A
04-26-2005, 06:48 PM
I have the Sony KDF-50WE655 (purchased March) and never have had a SDE issue, even at close viewing. I have seen the SSE (silk screen effect-noticing the texure of the screen material)and that doesn't bother me at all. Overall, I think the PQ is tops.

branchbouncer
04-27-2005, 04:48 AM
Get Sony,you'll be happy

WolfpackRon
04-27-2005, 02:01 PM
I compared the Samsung HL-P5063W with the Sony KDF50WF655 side by side again at Best Buy and the PQ of the Sony seems to be much sharper. The sales person is a Samsung DLP fan and tried to adjust the Samsung to match the PQ of the Sony. The Sony has much whiter whites making the letters displayed on the TV screen appear much sharper. Still looking and waiting for new models. WolfpackRon.

RSawdey
04-28-2005, 06:44 PM
The 5085 is a different DLP chip... better PQ than the 5063 model...

Don't make a decision based on brightness in the store... your home environment is far different & tweaking the set's setup will improve quality considerably... and brightness is NOT related to sharpness!

go_blue
04-29-2005, 12:29 PM
I just bought the Sammy HL-P5674W, for $2,699.99, with stand.

This is different than the XX63 series. The XX63 series use the HD3 chip that actually has only half the micro mirror (640x720) than the HD2+ chip in the XX74 and XX85 series (1280x720). The HD3 chip use one mirror for every two pixels, where the HD2+ is 1:1.

The HD3 is cheaper than the HD2+, and that's why Samsung can make the more affordable XX63 series.

I spent about 2 hours at my friend's house looking at his 5063W, and picture is softer (which I don't like). I also compared the 5663W and the 5674W side by side at Good Guys. 5674's PQ is at par with the PQ of the Sony's LCD RPTV.

I am VERY happy with my set.

patsrockon
04-30-2005, 11:23 AM
Better, IMO Blue. Get it ISF calibrated. Nothing but WOW.

Tecumseh
05-03-2005, 04:25 PM
I compared the Samsung HL-P5063W with the Sony KDF50WF655 side by side again at Best Buy and the PQ of the Sony seems to be much sharper. The sales person is a Samsung DLP fan and tried to adjust the Samsung to match the PQ of the Sony. The Sony has much whiter whites making the letters displayed on the TV screen appear much sharper. Still looking and waiting for new models. WolfpackRon.

I take my 9 year-old with me to look at the PQ and at least 10 different times and 5 different stores, we both agree that the Sony50" looks better than the Samy 5063.
Now to be PC....no offence to those that own the Samy's
:hithere:

RSawdey
05-03-2005, 07:21 PM
Sammy makes models with the HD3 chip (5063) and HD2+ chip (5674). HD2+ PQ is better...

iserum
05-04-2005, 09:24 AM
i have a comment on SDE, a friend of mine bought same sony TV as mine (55 Grand WEGA) i watched his TV the watching distance is 15 feet, I notice no SDE at all, the picture is very good and sharp, i do see SDE if i watch less than 10 feet from TV. to me SDE is non factor, if someone looking for LCD projection they should make sure the watching distnace from TV is at least 10 feet or more.

petej
05-04-2005, 09:36 AM
i have a comment on SDE, a friend of mine bought same sony TV as mine (55 Grand WEGA) i watched his TV the watching distance is 15 feet, I notice no SDE at all, the picture is very good and sharp, i do see SDE if i watch less than 10 feet from TV. to me SDE is non factor, if someone looking for LCD projection they should make sure the watching distnace from TV is at least 10 feet or more.

I concur. In fact even if there is a dead pixel, it cannot be seen at 10 feet while watching programs in a normal fashion. This is realistic viewing of a tv versus a closer up technical comparison where one is looking for and comparing flaws between different types of tv's. For example, if I get close to even a DLP tv I can see small cross hatches on the screen.

On my Sony, the detail in dark scenes is really good. In fact I like it better than my direct view toshiba hi def tv.

By the way, the new E10 Sony models coming out next month have a small footprint. for example, the 50" lcd e model basically has the same footprint as my Sony 42we655 tv - wow. And they have once again improved the dark scene technology and the remote menu has been fixed/improved.