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Switching from DLP to LCD or lcos

petej
04-24-2005, 08:55 AM
This is not a slam to the DLP fans, so don't take this personally.

I just bought the Toshiba 44NHM84. From viewing it at the store, it looked awesome. At home, I've had to turn the TV off after just one day.

I was surprised that I am one of the minority that has the rainbow issue. At the store I never saw the rainbow. Apparently my brain and eyes are developmentally disabled and cannot put the colors together correctly on the screen.

symptoms:
1. Sometimes when I just naturally blink my eyes, I see what appears to be an after image of a blocky rainbow. Or, if I just casually look away from the TV, I see the same thing.

2. With light or dark screen objects, I could see kind of a shimmering/flickering purple,blueish image. For example an actor had on a light grey sports coat. To me, the coat was blueish and also flickering very subtly. This is very upsetting to my viewing. My wife on the other hand said it just looked like a light grey coat to her. Note: I also have a Toshiba 30hfx84 direct view crt and it is solid as a rock for viewing the colors.

The downside is that even though I'm 10 - 12 feet away from the 44" sceen, I also developed a whopping headache. This makes me mad because the Toshiba has an excellent footprint and produces a beautiful picture otherwise.

I emailed Toshiba and they said that this tv uses a 6-color wheel along with the hd2+ chip. Since I have store credit with Video Only, I cannot buy the 7-wheel Samsung version since they don't carry that line.

So, I plan on picking up the Sony 42WE655 lcd rear projection TV. It looks good at the store anyway. I suppose another option might be to pick up the slightly less tested JVC DILA TV; If the later, I can get an equivalant pricing for the current 52Z585 or wait a month or so to pick up their new 2nd generation model for an extra $1000. Or I could just let the store credit ride for awhile.

Ideas welcome.

amf1932
04-24-2005, 11:34 AM
Get the Sony 42WE655.......I'm sure you'll be very pleased with it's performance......I am, and I'm a very critical viewer!

Alan

petej
04-24-2005, 08:30 PM
OK. I traded in my DLP Toshiba (excellent box for those not afflicted with Rainbow Syndrome) for the Sony 42WE655 LCD rear projection TV. Oh my gosh. What a God send. And my eyes no longer go into spastic attacks because of the rainbows and shimmering, flickering unstable DLP picture. In this case I gladly welcome the very minimal SDE which is "pure joy" compared to the rainbow horror.

Steve A
04-25-2005, 04:29 AM
I have owned the Sony KDF-50WE655 since the beginnning of March and the clarity, realism of color (had to do very litle adjusting in the menu other than turning down the brightness a bit), and overall picture quality is breathtaking. The forums like to put down LCD RP technology but even with the few issues such as black level and slower refresh rate (slight blur on fast moving subjects/camera movement), the picture quality is gorgeous. I wouldn't trade my Sony for a DLP based set. You made a great decision. Enjoy!!

petej
04-25-2005, 03:03 PM
I was pleasantly surprised that the blacks and details within dark scenes is quite good with the Sony lcd display. Motion on the Sony is definitely adequate. The overall picture experience is excellent. The 42" Sony does analog, digital, and HD all really well and I couldn't be happier. For those that have eyes that can handle DLP, enjoy it as well.

dvdslw
04-26-2005, 05:56 AM
I love my Sony LCD

iserum
04-26-2005, 06:34 AM
SONY new grand WEGA are very good in black levels as compared to last year models especially WF series an XS series. i don't know why people who are looking for DLPs check out SAMSUNG DLPs only there are other manufacturer also, lot of SAMSUNG models have lip sync problems. When i went to buy TV I was looking for DLP but i found SONY LCD picture better than DLPs, the best DLP i liked is LG 42 inch the PQ was very good, but I needed a bigger screen size.
DLP and LCD are very similar you can pick any one of them it comes down to personal preference, both technologies are evolving.

lienly
04-26-2005, 07:52 AM
I do see rainbow, but it's doesn't bother me b/c eyes are grabbed by stunning PQ on Tosh! :D can't find 44" on Tosh web!? :confused:

if you really want to trade in other tech, JVC beats Sony in my sneak preview.

This is not a slam to the DLP fans, so don't take this personally.

I just bought the Toshiba 44NHM84. From viewing it at the store, it looked awesome. At home, I've had to turn the TV off after just one day.

I was surprised that I am one of the minority that has the rainbow issue. At the store I never saw the rainbow. Apparently my brain and eyes are developmentally disabled and cannot put the colors together correctly on the screen.

symptoms:
1. Sometimes when I just naturally blink my eyes, I see what appears to be an after image of a blocky rainbow. Or, if I just casually look away from the TV, I see the same thing.

2. With light or dark screen objects, I could see kind of a shimmering/flickering purple,blueish image. For example an actor had on a light grey sports coat. To me, the coat was blueish and also flickering very subtly. This is very upsetting to my viewing. My wife on the other hand said it just looked like a light grey coat to her. Note: I also have a Toshiba 30hfx84 direct view crt and it is solid as a rock for viewing the colors.

The downside is that even though I'm 10 - 12 feet away from the 44" sceen, I also developed a whopping headache. This makes me mad because the Toshiba has an excellent footprint and produces a beautiful picture otherwise.

I emailed Toshiba and they said that this tv uses a 6-color wheel along with the hd2+ chip. Since I have store credit with Video Only, I cannot buy the 7-wheel Samsung version since they don't carry that line.

So, I plan on picking up the Sony 42WE655 lcd rear projection TV. It looks good at the store anyway. I suppose another option might be to pick up the slightly less tested JVC DILA TV; If the later, I can get an equivalant pricing for the current 52Z585 or wait a month or so to pick up their new 2nd generation model for an extra $1000. Or I could just let the store credit ride for awhile.

Ideas welcome.

petej
04-26-2005, 10:55 AM
can't find 44" on Tosh web!? :confused:

if you really want to trade in other tech, JVC beats Sony in my sneak preview.

The 44" Tosh is on the Toshiba Canada site, even though they sell it in the U.S. as well.

JVC is hot but I chose the more stable 4th gen Sony lcd platform. Maybe the 2nd gen JVC's will be more stable. For example, all the JVC's currently being sold in my area already have a recall on a circuit board. Some sets show massive green issues that cannot seem to be tuned correctly. Maybe spending money for a service calibrater would help. Video Only had a demo jvc dila that happened to be a solid performer and it looked fantastic. But I prefer the 42 - 46 inch arena and JVC doesn't support that realm.

kdog044
04-26-2005, 12:44 PM
The 44" Tosh is on the Toshiba Canada site, even though they sell it in the U.S. as well.It's an LG rebrand and not made by Toshiba. I believe the LG model is RU-44SZ51D.

lienly
04-28-2005, 07:39 AM
so you mean Tosh DLP is actually made by LG!? :confused: what a shocked news!! :eek:

It's an LG rebrand and not made by Toshiba. I believe the LG model is RU-44SZ51D.

imustbecrazy
04-28-2005, 09:15 AM
See title.

Yes, I'm bias...........

No, it's not the Sony name, but the stunning picture. Wife agrees!