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Six Reasons you Shouldn't use the PS3 as a Blu Ray Player

venomxr8
05-15-2008, 05:30 AM
just thought id post this and save our resident smurf eater Gargamel http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u137/11cen/gargamel.gif(aka Lee Stewart) the time:lol:

http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9941740-1.html?tag=cnetfd.mt
personally I think the article is a complete waste of time and a piece of shit, but there seems to be a lot of shit posted here these days, im just adding to the pile.

Nikopol
05-15-2008, 05:43 AM
:lol:

I need to see my receiver light up and say "Dolby TrueHD."

:roflmao:

He forgot my no. one reason:

- It's not region free. :D

Cowboy X
05-15-2008, 06:01 AM
The pros for the PS3 at this time especially the price and features easily outweigh any negatives.

hatt
05-15-2008, 10:04 AM
5. You want to be green.
:lol:

mobiushky
05-15-2008, 10:10 AM
I think you could reduce this list to one reason:

1) You don't want to.

That's about it. All 6 reasons are essentially whining about why he doesn't WANT to use the PS3. Had he simply posted that, no problem. Not everyone WANTS to be a millionaire...

mshulman
05-15-2008, 10:14 AM
1. Doesn't work with universal remotes.

This I agree with - I really wish I could use my harmony with it without needing anything else.

2. It's louder than standalones.


I guess it all depends on where you keep it. Mine is behind glass with an open back and I can't hear it any more than anything else.

3. Interface isn't as easy to use.

This is BS as you don't need to use the interface to play movies. Pop the movie in and it plays automatically.

4. You have an older AV receiver and need multichannel analog outputs.


This is valid.

5. You want to be green.


Then you shouldn't really own either or a TV for that matter :lol:

Stew4HD
05-15-2008, 11:34 AM
1. Doesn't work with universal remotes.

This I agree with - I really wish I could use my harmony with it without needing anything else.

2. It's louder than standalones.


I guess it all depends on where you keep it. Mine is behind glass with an open back and I can't hear it any more than anything else.

3. Interface isn't as easy to use.

This is BS as you don't need to use the interface to play movies. Pop the movie in and it plays automatically.

4. You have an older AV receiver and need multichannel analog outputs.


This is valid.

5. You want to be green.


Then you shouldn't really own either or a TV for that matter :lol:

Ok, ... on piint 4... how do I get the PS3 to do that? I have to go through a few steps just to play a BD... Accept user name, then move the cursor to the movie (BDV icon). Is there a setting for autoplay?

PFC5
05-15-2008, 02:11 PM
I actually think ALL of them are legit reasons but are out weighted by it's greater features/versatility.

To answer Stew yes you can set it to "auto play", but you have to sign in if you set up more than ONE online account every time you start the PS3 even if you set this option to enabled.

I found this out when I set up different accounts so my son has his own online account to keep his stats separate from mine on COD4. It definitely takes away from the almost the same as a SAL BD player experience. I wish there was either an option to bypass the login when only playing a movie or at least have a default login that was automatic.

For the paranoid crowd I do not see WHY you must be logged in to watch a movie but maybe they are selling the movie watching histories to other companies. :p

Stew4HD
05-15-2008, 02:14 PM
I actually think ALL of them are legit reasons but are out weighted by it's greater features/versatility.

To answer Stew yes you can set it to "auto play", but you have to sign in if you set up more than ONE online account every time you start the PS3 even if you set this option to enabled.

I found this out when I set up different accounts so my son has his own online account to keep his stats separate from mine on COD4. It definitely takes away from the almost the same as a SAL BD player experience. I wish there was either an option to bypass the login when only playing a movie or at least have a default login that was automatic.

For the paranoid crowd I do not see WHY you must be logged in to watch a movie but maybe they are selling the movie watching histories to other companies. :p

Ah, that is it then. My bro set up a username on the PS3 too. I don't like that it won't autoplay a movie. It should know the diffrence between a game and a movie.. dammit! ;)

Dare
05-15-2008, 02:28 PM
I prefer HTPCs because they are more powerful and versatile, and the added complexity doesn't bother me. But then, I'm a freak and that's why I'm here. :D I don't pretend to be representative of the general public (and neither should you).

Some HTPCs have noise issues, but there are steps you can take to eliminate that. That's the nice thing about the modular nature of PCs. All you can do with a PS3 is close it up in a box, but then you create heat issues.

Azul
05-17-2008, 05:07 PM
One good reason for me to use my PS3 as my bluray player

I already have it and it works fine

mswoods1
05-17-2008, 05:20 PM
Ok, ... on point 4... how do I get the PS3 to do that? I have to go through a few steps just to play a BD... Accept user name, then move the cursor to the movie (BDV icon). Is there a setting for autoplay?

Interesting... mine always autoplays every BD, but I never set it to do that. That would really annoy me if it didn't.

geneinnc
05-17-2008, 07:17 PM
PS3 has the 2.35 download now. Do any of the stand alone units offer this upgrade?

As for the remote issue, It took me maybe 2 hours to learn to navigate using the wireless game control.

I got the PS3 standard remote for my wife. I need to play with the PS3 remote some more I guess, since I can navigate faster using the game control.

The PS3 on screen keyboard sucks, but I have a wireless keyboard if needed, and it works like a charm. Not a bad thing to own for $40.

PFC5
05-17-2008, 09:01 PM
Interesting... mine always autoplays every BD, but I never set it to do that. That would really annoy me if it didn't.

Then you DEFINITELY do not want to setup more than one online account, because this is what you will have to do every time you turn on the PS3 with more than one online name/account.

crazyal
05-17-2008, 09:14 PM
Then you DEFINITELY do not want to setup more than one online account, because this is what you will have to do every time you turn on the PS3 with more than one online name/account.

Does this happen even if the PS3 isn't connected to the internet? Are all PS3s wireless, guess if they are in range and have been setup they will find the router, lol.

PFC5
05-17-2008, 09:39 PM
Does this happen even if the PS3 isn't connected to the internet? Are all PS3s wireless, guess if they are in range and have been setup they will find the router, lol.

You have to enable the network connection even with the WiFi.

If you only set up ONE online account setup, you can set the PS3 to turn on AND go right to playing the disc pretty much like any SAL player. The problem is if you set up more than one online account. It should (as the best way to work not what they state will happen) default to the last online loging or not require you to login at all until you want to.

Joe_news
05-18-2008, 01:22 AM
Crave sometimes misses it, and I gotta say, that is one LAME posting. It acts as if its not a great value purchase for people.

niennumb1
05-19-2008, 11:20 AM
What about the statement about the TrueHD decoding thing.... The audio sounds excellent coming from my optical cable. What is the hub bub about this not TrueHD audio? Is that going to affect the experience heavily? Honestly the movies I've been watching off my BluRay look and sound excellent.

Also... I'm already doing my part going green on indoor lighting. Everything's got those damn energy bulbs. I've already helped save the environment. Gimme a break with the PS3 power usage.

MikeRox
05-19-2008, 02:00 PM
One reason you should:

It owns! :thumbsup: ;)

MikeRox
05-19-2008, 02:01 PM
Gimme a break with the PS3 power usage.

Just use the folding app and claim ur power is going towards curing cancer :thumbsup:

mshulman
05-19-2008, 03:35 PM
Interesting... mine always autoplays every BD, but I never set it to do that. That would really annoy me if it didn't.

Mine too.

Another thing that I noticed is that if I put a disc in and don't switch my reciever to the PS3, it doesn't play until I do.

The_Omega_Man
05-19-2008, 06:53 PM
I actually think ALL of them are legit reasons but are out weighted by it's greater features/versatility.

To answer Stew yes you can set it to "auto play", but you have to sign in if you set up more than ONE online account every time you start the PS3 even if you set this option to enabled.

I found this out when I set up different accounts so my son has his own online account to keep his stats separate from mine on COD4. It definitely takes away from the almost the same as a SAL BD player experience. I wish there was either an option to bypass the login when only playing a movie or at least have a default login that was automatic.

For the paranoid crowd I do not see WHY you must be logged in to watch a movie but maybe they are selling the movie watching histories to other companies. :p
+1 :yippee:

The PS3 interface is somewhat annoying to navigate when all you want to do is something simple. But I simply avoid all of these silly issues, and just watch movies on my, still working, HD DVD players. :what: :D

Steve A
05-19-2008, 10:53 PM
1. Doesn't work with universal remotes.

This I agree with - I really wish I could use my harmony with it without needing anything else.

2. It's louder than standalones.


I guess it all depends on where you keep it. Mine is behind glass with an open back and I can't hear it any more than anything else.

3. Interface isn't as easy to use.

This is BS as you don't need to use the interface to play movies. Pop the movie in and it plays automatically.

4. You have an older AV receiver and need multichannel analog outputs.


This is valid.

5. You want to be green.


Then you shouldn't really own either or a TV for that matter :lol:

I have two PS3s: and 80GB and a 40 (mostly for BD in the living room and the bedroom). Both run quietly with the 40GB running very cool (new chipset). The XCross Media bar is a pleasure to use and it basically explains itself.

railven
05-20-2008, 11:28 AM
You have to enable the network connection even with the WiFi.

If you only set up ONE online account setup, you can set the PS3 to turn on AND go right to playing the disc pretty much like any SAL player. The problem is if you set up more than one online account. It should (as the best way to work not what they state will happen) default to the last online loging or not require you to login at all until you want to.

There is a way to set it up so that it logins into one account by default. I'm not sure if this is what you want.

I have three user accounts each with their own online account. My main account is set to auto login (go to the account on the USERS tab, click Triangle I believe, then set to auto login or whatever it is called.) Then set your PSN account to auto login in too.

I wouldn't do this if you don't want people accessing your account. I'd make a separate account called something like General. Set that one to the default, give it a PSN account if you want it to access the PSN (from what I've read the PS3 doesn't need to log in to the PSN for Profile 1.1 features, just needs to be setup for the internet.) And presto.

Turn on the PS3, it will auto log into this General account, and if you want to use your account for gaming, just log into it. Same for your son.

I turned off auto disc play on mine, I hated popping in a disc and it auto runs. Hehe.

I'll give you better steps when I get home. But I've never had to click my Main account from the users tab to login it, it does it all automatically.

sigill
05-20-2008, 11:45 AM
No matter what anybody says the fact is at this moment in time the PS3 is the best BD player around simply due to the firmware updates that are available. I have a BDP-S300 and a PS3 and i think the picture can sometimes look slightly sharply on the S300. I also think there is slightly more judder on the PS3. But these are small things that im nitpicking and looking for. The PS3 is a perfectly good BD player that has super quick loading times and is constantly upgradeable so i think the OP is incorrect and looking for faults that aren't there.

PFC5
05-20-2008, 04:15 PM
There is a way to set it up so that it logins into one account by default. I'm not sure if this is what you want.

I have three user accounts each with their own online account. My main account is set to auto login (go to the account on the USERS tab, click Triangle I believe, then set to auto login or whatever it is called.) Then set your PSN account to auto login in too.

I wouldn't do this if you don't want people accessing your account. I'd make a separate account called something like General. Set that one to the default, give it a PSN account if you want it to access the PSN (from what I've read the PS3 doesn't need to log in to the PSN for Profile 1.1 features, just needs to be setup for the internet.) And presto.

Turn on the PS3, it will auto log into this General account, and if you want to use your account for gaming, just log into it. Same for your son.

I turned off auto disc play on mine, I hated popping in a disc and it auto runs. Hehe.

I'll give you better steps when I get home. But I've never had to click my Main account from the users tab to login it, it does it all automatically.

I have the 3 accounts all set to auto login. Maybe that is the problem. I do not want to have to type in a password (and remember it along with the 50k passwords I already have to remember) using the game controller.

They should allow ONE account to be the auto login by default so you can utilize the autorun when you put a disc in IMO.

If you have any way to set one to login by default with multiple accounts that would be very helpful to me and i am sure others as well.

Thanks for checking into it. :thumbsup:

railven
05-20-2008, 07:45 PM
I have the 3 accounts all set to auto login. Maybe that is the problem. I do not want to have to type in a password (and remember it along with the 50k passwords I already have to remember) using the game controller.

They should allow ONE account to be the auto login by default so you can utilize the autorun when you put a disc in IMO.

If you have any way to set one to login by default with multiple accounts that would be very helpful to me and i am sure others as well.

Thanks for checking into it. :thumbsup:

I just checked, this is what you can do (however I didn't bother to check if any of my other accounts are password protected.)

You can have multiple accounts passwords protected, but still have one "General" account without a password (or with a password, not sure I'll check for you) to auto login.

Create an "GENERAL" account, login into it. On the user tabs, go to its icon, press Triangle, then turn on Auto Login.

When ever the PS3 is turned on, that account will auto boot and you'll never have to enter a password.

However, if your other accounts are password protected, they'd have to log in.

The best bet is, if you guys have no trust issues, leave the other accounts without a password but have a "GENERAL" account for auto login.

That way you can auto boot the PS3 with a disc, and not have to login in and all that jazz.

But if anyone wants to play, they can manually select their account from the user tab and not have to worry about entering passwords.

This is sort of what I have. I don't think any of my accounts are password protected since it's just me and my girlfriend. My account auto logins in, I never see the select a user screen.

kamspy
05-20-2008, 08:01 PM
Just use the folding app and claim ur power is going towards curing cancer :thumbsup:

Genius!!! I already save all my gas receipts and write most of those off.

Add another on to the checklist! Saving all my energy bills now!!!

Dude at Jackson Hewitt absolutely hates me.:lol: I try to write off everything.

Superman
05-20-2008, 08:15 PM
The PS3 is not the ideal player you want in your home, but Ill be damned if it isn't the best player (all around) for BD and a fine addition to your home theater.

I can't decide if that is brilliant, or sad.

PFC5
05-20-2008, 10:24 PM
I just checked, this is what you can do (however I didn't bother to check if any of my other accounts are password protected.)

You can have multiple accounts passwords protected, but still have one "General" account without a password (or with a password, not sure I'll check for you) to auto login.

Create an "GENERAL" account, login into it. On the user tabs, go to its icon, press Triangle, then turn on Auto Login.

When ever the PS3 is turned on, that account will auto boot and you'll never have to enter a password.

However, if your other accounts are password protected, they'd have to log in.

The best bet is, if you guys have no trust issues, leave the other accounts without a password but have a "GENERAL" account for auto login.

That way you can auto boot the PS3 with a disc, and not have to login in and all that jazz.

But if anyone wants to play, they can manually select their account from the user tab and not have to worry about entering passwords.

This is sort of what I have. I don't think any of my accounts are password protected since it's just me and my girlfriend. My account auto logins in, I never see the select a user screen.

You CAN keep passwords on multiple accounts and those one for auto login. Another problem solved.

Now if I can figure out WHY my controller defaults to #3 whenever I turn on/start the PS3 with the PS button on the controller.

Thanks for your help!

PFC5
05-20-2008, 10:25 PM
The PS3 is not the ideal player you want in your home, but Ill be damned if it isn't the best player (all around) for BD and a fine addition to your home theater.

I can't decide if that is brilliant, or sad.

It is both believe it or not. :lol:

railven
05-21-2008, 10:14 AM
You CAN keep passwords on multiple accounts and those one for auto login. Another problem solved.

Now if I can figure out WHY my controller defaults to #3 whenever I turn on/start the PS3 with the PS button on the controller.

Thanks for your help!

Sure thing.

As for the controller issue. Do you have any USB dongles connected? For example, a Guitar Heroes 3 adapter, a Rock Band guitar adapter, Rock Band Microphone, or Rockband drum set?

I don't know why it does that (bad I/O configuration I guess) but if you have any thing connected that auto-boots (turns on when power is fed) it will snatch a slot.

I don't know how to overcome the GH3 adapter. With the Rock Band guitar adapter, I found leaving the guitar off it won't snatch a slot. For the GH3 one, you have to leave it unplugged. You can't take controller slot 1 from it, I've tried. Pain in the ass in my opinion.

MikeRox
05-21-2008, 11:03 AM
Though if u use the PS button, you can reassign the controller slot (a pain compared with auto detect I know) but it is possible :)

PFC5
05-21-2008, 11:34 AM
Sure thing.

As for the controller issue. Do you have any USB dongles connected? For example, a Guitar Heroes 3 adapter, a Rock Band guitar adapter, Rock Band Microphone, or Rockband drum set?

I don't know why it does that (bad I/O configuration I guess) but if you have any thing connected that auto-boots (turns on when power is fed) it will snatch a slot.

I don't know how to overcome the GH3 adapter. With the Rock Band guitar adapter, I found leaving the guitar off it won't snatch a slot. For the GH3 one, you have to leave it unplugged. You can't take controller slot 1 from it, I've tried. Pain in the ass in my opinion.

Though if u use the PS button, you can reassign the controller slot (a pain compared with auto detect I know) but it is possible :)

Yup. That IS extremely likely WHY this is happening. I have the GH3 USB connected all the time, and I also have the NYKO IR remote USB dongle also.

I do have to use the PS button Mike to change it to controller #1 and it is a pain. When going into COD4 you cannot skip all the beginning video, etc. unless it is #1, but you can only do it when actually in the game. You cannot change the controller assignment while in a movie or without a game running. They need to change this so a controller # can be assigned for GH3 and any other USB device IMO.

Thanks guys!

firsTraveler
05-21-2008, 12:57 PM
It works great.