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Gaming on Plasma...

railven
05-10-2008, 01:07 PM
Since no one really helped me in the LCD section, I'm going to post this here.

I'm in the market for a new TV. My current one is great, 52" Sharp 62u model. I was going to buy the newer 120hz 82u model and bring my 52" upstairs.

But afer reading a bit about 120hz technology, I figured it isn't the right time to upgrade.

While browsed I found this Hitachi:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889200016

And I can get it for about $1100. So I figured, I want a good gaming TV upstairs, the price is right for the size.

I've never owned a plasma, and read about burn-in in the past. Is it still a big problem now? Are Hitachi screens good against preventing burning? Should I not buy a Plasma for gaming specifically?

cdcrowell
05-10-2008, 01:17 PM
not sure about the hitachi but i got a panny plasma and i play games all the time and never had a problem .i did do a break in period where games were barely played.but ive had no ir or burn in.

anythingwt
05-10-2008, 01:42 PM
I share the same experience as cbcrowell. I have had a Panny plasma for about a year and a half now, and I game on it all the time. In fact, that's basically all I do on that TV. No burn in worries. They have really corrected that issue in plasmas over the years.

The only recommendation, is to be cautious for your first 100 hours of use. This is when the TV will me most sensitive to retaining an image. Basically, mix up your viewing and content for the first 100 or so hours, then do what ya want.

railven
05-10-2008, 01:58 PM
Thanks guys. Burn-in is my primary concern as I remember when Plasma first hit, gaming was a no-no one them, at owns risk if you would.

I remember reading about the 100hr warm up. I'll keep that in my mind.

But with it being upstairs, chances of it being used for anything aside gaming off the bat is going to be hard. Hehe. Guess I'll watch a few BDs/DVDs on it.

Thanks for the quick feedback. I might be picking it up today while Mother's day shopping.

anythingwt
05-10-2008, 02:07 PM
Thanks guys. Burn-in is my primary concern as I remember when Plasma first hit, gaming was a no-no one them, at owns risk if you would.

I remember reading about the 100hr warm up. I'll keep that in my mind.

But with it being upstairs, chances of it being used for anything aside gaming off the bat is going to be hard. Hehe. Guess I'll watch a few BDs/DVDs on it.

Thanks for the quick feedback. I might be picking it up today while Mother's day shopping.

If you're really concerned about it, they actually make a break in disc, that just shifts colors and is on a constant loop. You can just put it on and leave it on until you hit about 100 hrs. I've known people to use it to streamline the process. I'm posting from my phone right now so I can't link it to you, but if you're interested ill PM it to you later on.

railven
05-10-2008, 02:44 PM
Yeah, it seems like Burn-In might be an issue.

The Sears Rep guy told me "burn-in is pretty much going to happen if you play videogames or watch sports for long periods of time."

I know, not all sales rep know their stuff, but it was enough to raise a red flag.

I know Hitachi isn't as elite as Panasonic.

kamspy
05-10-2008, 03:12 PM
Gamed on a Plasma for over a year. No burn in.

shooter2977
05-10-2008, 04:53 PM
Gamed on a Plasma for over a year. No burn in.



Same here, I have a Panny plasma for just over a year and a 1/2 now and no burn in what so ever. i game on it daily and once left it on went out got drunk and came back the next day to no problems at all

railven
05-10-2008, 07:47 PM
Before we left today I read a lot of articles, as many as I could.

But a lot of them slammed Hitachi and mentioned something alongs "if you're a gamer and want a plasma, get a Panasonic or Pioneer."

And I'm getting the feeling everyone here has a Panny/Pioneer.

Either way, the Hitachi's were all sold out. They had one at the last store I checked, but my girlfriend didn't get a good vibe about the burn-in (this rep also mentioned it and mentioned the warranty wouldn't cover it.)

So no Plasma for me.

My girlfriend saw a Sony XBR4 that she really liked. So, now we might buy that one. I need to read up on it.

anythingwt
05-10-2008, 07:59 PM
Before we left today I read a lot of articles, as many as I could.

But a lot of them slammed Hitachi and mentioned something alongs "if you're a gamer and want a plasma, get a Panasonic or Pioneer."

And I'm getting the feeling everyone here has a Panny/Pioneer.

Either way, the Hitachi's were all sold out. They had one at the last store I checked, but my girlfriend didn't get a good vibe about the burn-in (this rep also mentioned it and mentioned the warranty wouldn't cover it.)

So no Plasma for me.

My girlfriend saw a Sony XBR4 that she really liked. So, now we might buy that one. I need to read up on it.

Plasmas aren't for everyone. I still assure you that you don't need to be worry about gaming on one, but you don't wanna be stressed out about your new purchase, so maybe its a bad idea.

The XBRs are awesome sets too.

railven
05-10-2008, 08:03 PM
Plasmas aren't for everyone. I still assure you that you don't need to be worry about gaming on one, but you don't wanna be stressed out about your new purchase, so maybe its a bad idea.

The XBRs are awesome sets too.

Yeah, before we headed out I read some of those tips to prevent burn-in. Some sites said 200 hrs, some said 100hrs. Some said to not watch 4:3 or widescreen movies within the first 100-200 hrs.

So it seemed like a high risk, especially since I said it would be primarily gaming. Breaking it in, would take me a month due to my schedule and how many hours I actually get to sit in front of a TV.

The picture on the XBR4 blew her away, and the like cabinet design was the seller. Since she's paying half, she gets a big say. But I'm glad she picked the Sony hehe.

Well time to go watch the cooking network.

kamspy
05-10-2008, 08:27 PM
Best thing to do for that 100 hrs, set the sleep timer for about 3 hrs. every night when you go to bed for a week, and find a TV channel that all fuzz/snow. that will burn all the phosphers in very nicely.

Get a Plasma man, don't got LCD. You'll see a night and day difference if you already own an LCD.

shooter2977
05-10-2008, 08:39 PM
I agree with Kamspy, trust me when I say this YOU WILL NOT GET ANY BURN IN, that was my main concern when i was searching for a new TV over a year and a 1/2 ago. I am on my 360 every day for extended periods of time, and I have never had an issue with burn in. And i jumped right in with my 360 and played for about 2 straight hours as soon as I bought the TV..


And the comparison between LCD and plasma is night and day, make sure where ever you go, that you have an LCD and a plasma side by side showing the same screen, then you will see the difference.

That's what i did and It made my decesion very easy.

railven
05-10-2008, 09:22 PM
Like I said, my girlfriend is paying for half. So she has as much say as I do.

We tried to find that super cheap Hitachi, but we couldn't and when I found a Sears that did the rep at the Sears we were in pretty much turned her off Plasma TVs.

He also mentioned most Plasmas are discontinued, not sure how true that is, but thats why Sears slashed that model's price in half.

She liked the Bravia, and I did too. So, it seems like that's what we'll be buying this Tuesday when they are restocked.

I do appreciate all the feedback. I bounced everything stated around my head and her's.

alwayslearnin
05-11-2008, 07:48 PM
the new panny's are great. they shift the screen to even help any chances of burn in. The new models all have game mode too..

MikeRox
05-12-2008, 05:26 AM
You won't be dissapointed by the Sony. Had one for nearly a year and a half now with it's primary use being gaming and mines just a lowly S series, looking towards the X series maybe next year (our XBR equivalent). The image clarity is fantastic, and the ghosting isn't noticible on it at all. (For reference: I find the PSP ghosting makes some games on that system unplayable) LCDs have come on leaps and bounds in the past 2 years. I remember when LCD = a complete no no for gaming.

Bigloww
05-12-2008, 07:31 AM
As far as your orignal question goes, I will also chime in... I have been gaming quite a bit on my 50'' HP plasma (rebagged 50PX500U Panny) for almost 3 years now and love it. PQ and 0 lag makes gaming incredible. Burn in with the latest plasma models are almost a non factor as long as you follow break in period and a bit of common sense caution. You can find the Panny TH-58PZ700U 58" 1080p still floating about for around $2699-$2999. Sweet set if you are also looking to go a little bigger than the 52'' you have now. If not, that 50'' 1080p Hitachi for only $1100 sounds like 1 great deal..

http://www.pricemad.com/productdetail.asp?level=45&catid=50&productid=7100

Razor05
05-12-2008, 08:26 AM
My vote is with a plasma also. Have had mine for 2 1/2 to 3 years with no signs of image retention or burn-in. Just make sure you get a LCD with a fast response time.

railven
05-13-2008, 05:09 AM
I appreciate all the feedback.

It seems Plasmas are on sale or something. My aunt just bought a 50" Panasonic for like $1600. Or have they always been that cheap?

Anyways, we bought the 52" Sony Bravia XBR4. My girlfriend really liked it (cabinet design) and picture quality as it was on display.

I won't complain, I get from what I've read an "elite" product. Hehe, oddly, my first Sony product outside of their gaming division.

Bigloww
05-13-2008, 09:34 AM
I appreciate all the feedback.

It seems Plasmas are on sale or something. My aunt just bought a 50" Panasonic for like $1600. Or have they always been that cheap?



Plasma and all flat panels in general have come down in price quite a bit in the last couple of years and especialy this last year. 768' 50'' plasmas for under $1500 are pretty common now a days. Even for 1080p and last years models like the TH58PZ700U can be had for $1700 or so. And Panny's new TH-50PZ85U 1080p can be had for just under 2 bills. When I purchased my 50'' plasma nearly 3 years ago, brands like Panny were going for more than twice that amount (around $3500 and close to 5 grand the year before that.). And they were all 768p.

railven
05-13-2008, 09:50 AM
Plasma and all flat panels in general have come down in price quite a bit in the last couple of years and especialy this last year. 768' 50'' plasmas for under $1500 are pretty common now a days. Even for 1080p and last years models like the TH58PZ700U can be had for $1700 or so. And Panny's new TH-50PZ85U 1080p can be had for just under 2 bills. When I purchased my 50'' plasma nearly 3 years ago, brands like Panny were going for more than twice that amount (around $3500 and close to 5 grand the year before that.). And they were all 768p.

I remember the Plasmas costing more than the LCDs. My first LCD, 32" Sharp, cost me $1800 in 2005. I got the 52" in mid/late 2006 for about $3000, clearance.

I find it odd that my model 52" Sharp Aquos still demands a good penny. I have half the mind of selling it while it still has a good retail price tag.

Bigloww
05-13-2008, 10:28 AM
That is mainly due to being in the over 50's club. 50'' or bigger in LCD will cost a premium. And also that Sharp is in the top tier as well. The same holds true for over 50'' in plasma. The price diff between a 50'' and 58'' Panny is pretty substatial. And if you factor the cost difference between the 58'' and 65''...:eek: .

The 50'' 1080p Panasonic TH-50PZ85U is around $2000.
The 58'' 1080p Panasonic TH58PZ700U is close to $3000 (and that is last years model).
The 65'' 1080p Panasonic TH-65PZ750U is almost double the price of the 58'' at around $5700.. 7 inches will set you back..



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Razor05
05-14-2008, 06:52 PM
That is mainly due to being in the over 50's club. 50'' or bigger in LCD will cost a premium. And also that Sharp is in the top tier as well. The same holds true for over 50'' in plasma. The price diff between a 50'' and 58'' Panny is pretty substatial. And if you factor the cost difference between the 58'' and 65''...:eek: .

The 50'' 1080p Panasonic TH-50PZ85U is around $2000.
The 58'' 1080p Panasonic TH58PZ700U is close to $3000 (and that is last years model).
The 65'' 1080p Panasonic TH-65PZ750U is almost double the price of the 58'' at around $5700.. 7 inches will set you back...


I'll be getting the 58 for sure, and just maybe the 65.;)