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I'm Back Baby!!!!

HiramAbiff
04-27-2008, 09:30 PM
Just delivered the three-year old Mitsubishi WS-55315 to my apartment today with the help of a friend, and she's a beaut! Head and shoulders above my old Akai in terms of sharpness and detail, not to mention size. Still needs some work though--focusing, basic calibration, etc.

CRTs baby. CRTs.

:banana: :yippee: :hithere: :D

Probably be another year minimum before I get a BD player though. In the meantime I'm enjoying seeing detail on my HD DVDs that wasn't clearly visible before. :-)

kamspy
04-28-2008, 12:23 AM
Good to hear. I've got a major phobia of my panel kicking the bucket.

How did you make it through the weeks?:confused:

anythingwt
04-28-2008, 12:37 AM
I've really got respect for your love for CRTs Hiram :yippee:

Congrats on your new buy. Sometimes I miss my WS-55807. It was a great set and produced a great picture. Unfortunately it was just taken up too much space in the room.

Post back with your impressions once you get that baby calibrated!

ssjLancer
04-28-2008, 02:43 AM
You guys and your CRTs. I have an old 1080i 46" Panasonic just sitting in my storage room gathering dust.
Im thinking about getting a wireless cable sender and putting it in my garage for the summer. A big screen tv in the garage would be sweet, who else would have that?

HiramAbiff
04-28-2008, 02:51 AM
Good to hear. I've got a major phobia of my panel kicking the bucket.

How did you make it through the weeks?:confused:

By watching loads of episodes of MST3K online. It's my favorite thing in the world, but I missed most of the CC-era episodes, so it's great to catch up. Almost all of them are available, and the producers of the show encourage fan sharing of episodes!

But I just calibrated my set and watched Hot Fuzz. My jaw dropped. Now I'm glad I broke my old tv. :-)

If you fellers are wondering why I'm such a CRT nut, it's because I think that CRT produces the most photographic, film-like image of all the technologies. And with this new set, I don't see the need to get a "full HD, 1080p set" because I'm seeing all of the detail on this one.

iDarren
04-28-2008, 05:29 AM
Love my old Loewe CRT. Never seen anything else that compared PQ wise.

It's the reason why I could never settle for a LCD or Plasma - when I look at them all I see is compromise :(

Lee Stewart
04-28-2008, 05:36 AM
By watching loads of episodes of MST3K online. It's my favorite thing in the world, but I missed most of the CC-era episodes, so it's great to catch up. Almost all of them are available, and the producers of the show encourage fan sharing of episodes!

But I just calibrated my set and watched Hot Fuzz. My jaw dropped. Now I'm glad I broke my old tv. :-)

If you fellers are wondering why I'm such a CRT nut, it's because I think that CRT produces the most photographic, film-like image of all the technologies. And with this new set, I don't see the need to get a "full HD, 1080p set" because I'm seeing all of the detail on this one.

Is this a subjective statement? Or have you spun up one of the HD resolution charts on DVE?

MikeRox
04-28-2008, 07:37 AM
Love my old Loewe CRT. Never seen anything else that compared PQ wise.

It's the reason why I could never settle for a LCD or Plasma - when I look at them all I see is compromise :(

I used to think that. But now I absolutely love my LCD. Main thing that concerned me was ghosting, as that used to by abysmal, especially on older LCD monitors, but the later sets it really is nigh on impossible to see it even when you look.

It was the geometry issues that bugged me with CRTs.

dsskid
04-29-2008, 05:47 AM
I had a Pioneer Elite in my living room, awesome picture, but the yearly maintenance and constant convergence issue gave me headaches.

CRTs (IMO) oic can't be beat in a dedicated home theatre room, with straight-on seating, where the picture can be appreciated. Once you move out of the "sweet spot" it tends to get dark quickly, as was the case in my setting.

Enjoy.

Hitachi65SWX20B
04-29-2008, 06:39 AM
Just delivered the three-year old Mitsubishi WS-55315 to my apartment today with the help of a friend, and she's a beaut! Head and shoulders above my old Akai in terms of sharpness and detail, not to mention size. Still needs some work though--focusing, basic calibration, etc.

CRTs baby. CRTs.

:banana: :yippee: :hithere: :D

Probably be another year minimum before I get a BD player though. In the meantime I'm enjoying seeing detail on my HD DVDs that wasn't clearly visible before. :-)
I think it's just me and you only that Love RP CRT's! To me, Nothing beats them at all. I think the reason RPCRT sets got a bad rep was because 1. They have HUGE cabinets, 2. these sets are really Dependant on "you get what you pay for". I've seen buzz words about "sweet spots" and "convergence issues" here at HDF, That tells me right away that the sets being watched were either mid range or lower range sets. To me, and I'm a Huge aficionado of RPCRT monitors, the top three manufactures are 1. Hitachi, 2. Mits 3. Pioneer. The reason Hitachi stood above all else was the fact that their RPCRT monitors have both 117 point manual convergence and an Auto convergence or as Hitachi calls it "Auto Focus". But this was only offered on upper end mid range and High end monitors. HDTV manufactures are just like car manufactures though, They make ultra high end and ultra low end. After years of graduating from each class of sets, I'm finally in the ultra high end RPCRT. One thing I've noticed with every upgrade was the "sweet spot" got Bigger and convergence got Tighter. One thing I have to say though... No matter what set I had from either ultra low end to where I'm at now, I've never had horrific issues with geometry. Like ALL RPCRT's, every set I bought though needed tweaking out of the box to get it out of "torch mode"

MikeRox
04-29-2008, 07:26 AM
That might explain it, I remember when the Currys store I used to work for had a back wall full of RPCRTs, they looked absolutely horrendous for the most part and the viewing angle was pathetic. That completely put me off them, I'd love to see how good a top end one looks, because I'm guessing it's exactly as people view LCD etc.

They've had a bad experience in the past, or the LCD displays of old are still stuck in peoples minds, just like Plasma had been for me ("They only last 3 years", "if you leave anything on for more than 10 minutes it burns onto the screen" etc.) before reading Kamspy's love for them etc and about how he feels they blow LCD out of the water.

HD Goofnut
04-29-2008, 07:38 AM
Both of my HDTVs are CRTs, but the more I look at the new LCDs and Plasmas the more I want one. Ideally I would like a non-Sony 60" 1080p LCD to mount on my living room wall.

dsskid
04-29-2008, 08:29 AM
I think it's just me and you only that Love RP CRT's! To me, Nothing beats them at all. I think the reason RPCRT sets got a bad rep was because 1. They have HUGE cabinets, 2. these sets are really Dependant on "you get what you pay for". I've seen buzz words about "sweet spots" and "convergence issues" here at HDF, That tells me right away that the sets being watched were either mid range or lower range sets. To me, and I'm a Huge aficionado of RPCRT monitors, the top three manufactures are 1. Hitachi, 2. Mits 3. Pioneer. The reason Hitachi stood above all else was the fact that their RPCRT monitors have both 117 point manual convergence and an Auto convergence or as Hitachi calls it "Auto Focus". But this was only offered on upper end mid range and High end monitors. HDTV manufactures are just like car manufactures though, They make ultra high end and ultra low end. After years of graduating from each class of sets, I'm finally in the ultra high end RPCRT. One thing I've noticed with every upgrade was the "sweet spot" got Bigger and convergence got Tighter. One thing I have to say though... No matter what set I had from either ultra low end to where I'm at now, I've never had horrific issues with geometry. Like ALL RPCRT's, every set I bought though needed tweaking out of the box to get it out of "torch mode"


I was talking about a Pioneer Elite Pro630HD

edders
04-29-2008, 09:43 AM
We have two lcd's and one HD RPTV (Panny). Bought the "boss lady" a 40" JVC for the bedroom last April. She watched it at first for movies but now likes the older Panny HDRPTV in the living room better.

I think its because there is more room on the couch and...hey wait a minute could it be something about me sharing the bed???:lol::lol::lol:

MikeRox
04-29-2008, 01:54 PM
Both of my HDTVs are CRTs, but the more I look at the new LCDs and Plasmas the more I want one. Ideally I would like a non-Sony 60" 1080p LCD to mount on my living room wall.

Any particular reason for "non Sony?" I think the BRAVIA LCDs are up there with the best I've ever seen.

HD Goofnut
04-29-2008, 02:33 PM
Any particular reason for "non Sony?" I think the BRAVIA LCDs are up there with the best I've ever seen.

I have never liked Sony mainly because of their higher prices. I remember as a kid that the first generation of portable cd players were around $100-150 dollars and then the Sony would be $200 or more. Today I really loathe Sony because of this whole "You must buy our more expensive product and you have no choice." attitude. I have always been a person of logic and sense and I see no problem with buying a cheaper brand when the quality is the same. I had an APEX DVD player for years that worked flawlessly and then I just gave it away when I didn't need it anymore. My point is that it did the same thing as an expensive Sony DVD player and it was less than half of the price. I'll probably go with an LG, Toshiba, or Panasonic for my next HDTV and it will be an LCD.

Cowboy X
04-29-2008, 04:10 PM
I have never liked Sony mainly because of their higher prices. I remember as a kid that the first generation of portable cd players were around $100-150 dollars and then the Sony would be $200 or more. Today I really loathe Sony because of this whole "You must buy our more expensive product and you have no choice." attitude. I have always been a person of logic and sense and I see no problem with buying a cheaper brand when the quality is the same. I had an APEX DVD player for years that worked flawlessly and then I just gave it away when I didn't need it anymore. My point is that it did the same thing as an expensive Sony DVD player and it was less than half of the price. I'll probably go with an LG, Toshiba, or Panasonic for my next HDTV and it will be an LCD.

I definitely dislike Sony's attitude especially when it comes to their proprietary hardware. Price for me is also a big deal but once Sony has a good product, I have no problem buying it.

My DVD S550D, PS3, 27" Trinitron Wega are examples.

Lee Stewart
04-29-2008, 05:38 PM
:lol: . . . the Sony Bravia is no longer a Sony. It is either a Samsung or an LG panel.

So now you would really be paying for the Sony name only.

kamspy
04-29-2008, 11:06 PM
I have never liked Sony mainly because of their higher prices. I remember as a kid that the first generation of portable cd players were around $100-150 dollars and then the Sony would be $200 or more. Today I really loathe Sony because of this whole "You must buy our more expensive product and you have no choice." attitude. I have always been a person of logic and sense and I see no problem with buying a cheaper brand when the quality is the same. I had an APEX DVD player for years that worked flawlessly and then I just gave it away when I didn't need it anymore. My point is that it did the same thing as an expensive Sony DVD player and it was less than half of the price. I'll probably go with an LG, Toshiba, or Panasonic for my next HDTV and it will be an LCD.

Duuuuuude. Sony Discmans kicked the pants off the competition. But that was back when Sony was still making a superior product. I can't say the same now. The PS3 is good to me, games, A/V media server, BD player, YouTube on the big screen etc. But I haven't touched much else from Sony. Not on purpose, just haven't had a product that I wanted aside from the PS brand. If they still made Plasmas and made them well, then we could talk;)

The_Omega_Man
04-30-2008, 01:19 AM
:lol: . . . the Sony Bravia is no longer a Sony. It is either a Samsung or an LG panel.

So now you would really be paying for the Sony name only.
No Sale! :censored

MikeRox
04-30-2008, 03:56 AM
:lol: . . . the Sony Bravia is no longer a Sony. It is either a Samsung or an LG panel.

So now you would really be paying for the Sony name only.

Thats 4th Gen :p they ain't out yet. The change over happens this summer on most models, HOWEVER you do realise theyve ALWAYS bought the panels in, it's what they do when they've bought the panels in that helps. They still come in different cases (design can play a big part), have different processing gubbins etc in.

PFC5
04-30-2008, 11:43 AM
Thats 4th Gen :p they ain't out yet. The change over happens this summer on most models, HOWEVER you do realise theyve ALWAYS bought the panels in, it's what they do when they've bought the panels in that helps. They still come in different cases (design can play a big part), have different processing gubbins etc in.

As far as I know, the current generation/model Sony LCD panels are Samsung panels from the joint LCD mfg plant already. I believe it has been this way for about 2 years.

MikeRox
04-30-2008, 12:06 PM
As far as I know, the current generation/model Sony LCD panels are Samsung panels from the joint LCD mfg plant already. I believe it has been this way for about 2 years.

I believe they have been joint with Samsung as you say, however they are taking a further step back from the panel production side I believe.