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Please help, would greatly appreciate it :) -PS3 HD cable

aslanlar
04-19-2008, 07:39 AM
I have a Philips tv model 32PF9966/69 but for some reason i can't connect it to high-def for the playstation 3? The cable isn't broken as i have tried it on another television and it works.. i'm just not sure what to do.

When you click to change the settings, it goes black and there is the 30 seconds for you to find the right chanel thing, and then you click ok to accept the changes. For some reason, whatever i do, i can never find the channel with the "click ok to accept these changes" thing.

If anyone knows how i can do it, it would be greatly appreciated and i thank you for your time in reading this (sorry, i am sort of a noob to these sort of things).

MikeRox
04-19-2008, 08:14 AM
What sort of cable are you using? HDMI or Component? Though that said, both should be down as AV extensions so you shouldn't need to search for a channel thats just for analogue TV/hooking up old games consoles in RF is it not?

aslanlar
04-19-2008, 08:55 AM
What sort of cable are you using? HDMI or Component? Though that said, both should be down as AV extensions so you shouldn't need to search for a channel thats just for analogue TV/hooking up old games consoles in RF is it not?

I'm using the normal HDMI cable, the 1 where both ends look the same.
On the TV that it did work on, the normal playstation was on AV4, but when changed to HDMI, you had to turn to AV6 to see the 'accept the changes' thing.
So you're saying that it should work on the same channel? It just turns black for 30 seconds then turns back though?

The channels that my tv has are:
TV
AV1 (which can be changed to None, Recorder, DVD, HD, SAT, Game, Digital STB, Other)
AV2 (same as above)
HDMI (same as above)
SIDE (None, Camera Video, Camera S-Video, Game, Other)

The playstation (with the standard plugs) works on SIDE (it doesn't matter what thing i choose).

aslanlar
04-19-2008, 09:57 AM
Ok, i found this on another site, and it expresses what i was trying to say a lot clearer. My problem is that i can't find the 'input channel' on my tv. As i said, it's a philips 32PF9966/69 model so it should be able to do it yeah?

It may be necessary for you to manually change the Video Output Settings to "HDMI" in order to see a picture. To manually change the Video Output Settings on the PLAYSTATION 3:

Navigate to the [Settings] icon on the XMB Home menu.

Navigate to the [Display Settings] icon and press the X button.

Highlight [Video Output Settings] then press the X button.

Select HDMI as the connector type on your display.

You will then be informed that the console will test the settings for 30 seconds. Press the X button to "Change" the display of the system. [Note: If your TV has multiple "Input" or "Video" channels, (i.e., "Input 1", "Input 2", "Input 3", etc.), you may need to toggle through each "Input" channel on your TV to find the correct one that will display the HDMI picture during the 30 seconds, especially if you do not see a picture.] The system will remain in the selected connector type for 30 seconds.

If your display supports HDMI, you will see a screen that asks to accept the setting. Highlight YES and press the X button.

You will be asked what resolution you wish to be displayed, AUTOMATIC or MANUAL.

- If you choose AUTOMATIC, the system will configure itself to the highest possible resolution.
- If you choose MANUAL, the system will allow you to select the resolution to be used (1080p, 1080i, 720p, or 480p).

Highlight the resolution you wish to be displayed and press the X button.

At this point the PLAYSTATION 3 will prompt whether you wish to "Set Audio Output Settings". (See next section.)

MikeRox
04-19-2008, 10:12 AM
Ah, so the problem is with your console rather than your TV. One thing I'd say to do, is make sure you havn't set the console to output 1080p if your TV isn't capable of it. That will lead to a black screen as the TV won't be able to handle the signal.

railven
04-19-2008, 10:21 AM
Sounds like a console not being set to HDMI output for video but you are using HDMI. This also happens if the console it set for HDMI output but you are trying to use a Composite/Component connection.

EDIT: To avoid confusion, only use the HDMI cable. Don't use the A/V cable. If you need to run sound via the A/V cable, first setup up the HDMI cable as video. Once you get that going, you can connect the A/V cable and set it up for audio.

Do this. Connect the HDMI cable to your PS3 and TV. Make sure the PS3 is off. Hold down the power button for 5 seconds. As it turns on, keep holding it, and it will beep. This will cause the console to use an auto detect feature.

Now, on your TV scan through your inputs [EDIT: I just saw your TV has an HDMI input, put your TV to that INPUT when you do this] to find the PS3 channel. It will set itself to 480i default and will then ask you to set it up.

This happened to my cousin. He bought a 40GB brand new, turned out to be a used 60GB but he was happy with that, that was set to HDMI output. He only had composite, but the steps I provided helped him, and I hope it helps you too.

Good luck.

aslanlar
04-19-2008, 11:36 AM
But i've tried the console on another TV and it works.

It works fine when i use my red/white/yellow cables, i just do it with the HDMI cable.

This what i'm doing:
Plug all the cables in, including the red/white/yellow AND HDMI.
Start my PS3 up, go to the settings, go to change it to HDMI cable (at the moment it's 480i). When i click to change it to HDMI, it goes black for 30 seconds, and then turns back to normal.
During the 30 seconds i'm meant to find a channel that can use the HDMI cable yeah? I just can't manage to find it.

About my TV:
Computer formats : 640 x 480, 60Hz, 800 x 600, 60Hz, 1024 x 768, 60Hz
Video Formats : 1280 x 720p - 3Fh, 1920 x 1080i - 2Fh, 640 x 480i - 1Fh, 640 x 480p - 2Fh, 720 x 576i - 1Fh, 720 x 576p - 2Fh, 1920 x 1152i @50Hz - 2Fh

Can my TV play it on high-def? Is there something i'm doing wrong? (i tried the turn on/off thing)

shaklee
04-19-2008, 11:47 AM
well first u need to unhook the red white and yellow then hold the power off button like 3-5 secs let the ps3 reboot its self then set it up again with the hdmi

railven
04-19-2008, 11:52 AM
pls excuse the post im on my psp. first find the hdmi channel its usually labelhdmi connect the cable hold the ps3 power button down on power up theps3 will goto auto setup goodluck

aslanlar
04-19-2008, 12:45 PM
When i take the red/white/yellow cable out, i can't see anything, it's all blue (the colour that any blank channel shows is blue). Anyway, i unhooked it then turned it off. I then turned it on/off while holding on to the touch-sensitive button to 'reboot' (that's how yeah?). I then turned it on again, and still nothing, it's all blue.

I can't see anything without the red/yellow/white cables...

Pinoy
04-19-2008, 01:02 PM
Plug in your ps3 via HDMI (and nothing else) and while your ps3 is OFF press and HOLD the power button, it should start to turn on:Keep holding the power button. It will then beep a little bit and then do the auto detect for video.

aslanlar
04-19-2008, 01:14 PM
So i hold the power button untill it beeps after 5 seconds (but not so long that it turns off)..
Ok, did that, but still there's nothing :'( It's all blue unfortunately.

Pinoy
04-19-2008, 01:22 PM
Odd. Does your ps3 work on a different TV with the same HDMI cable?

aslanlar
04-19-2008, 01:33 PM
Yes.

railven
04-19-2008, 01:38 PM
Ok, I got my cousin to let me use her PC so I get more abilities to help.

I found your TV's manual:
http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/3/32pf9966_37/32pf9966_37_dfu_aen.pdf

Okay, do this.
1. Turn off the PS3 and TV
2. Disconnect all the cables from your PS3.
3. Connect the Power Cable and HDMI cable to the PS3, and the other end of the HDMI to your TV.
4. Turn on your TV and put it to input AV3. [It should be blank, if it is gray and you can't click it then try again after step 5.]
5. Hold the power button on the PS3 to turn it on. Keep holding it after it turns on and you hear the second long beep.

The TV should show the PS3's display, as the auto detect kicks in. If it doesn't, than I don't know what else I can do to help.

aslanlar
04-20-2008, 01:28 AM
Ok, thanks for the help, it still doesn't work but now there's a difference.

It now says 'picture format not available'... Does that mean i have to change some settings on the tv, or that the tv wont play it no matter what?

railven
04-20-2008, 05:42 AM
Ok, thanks for the help, it still doesn't work but now there's a difference.

It now says 'picture format not available'... Does that mean i have to change some settings on the tv, or that the tv wont play it no matter what?

I have no idea. I checked your TV's manual, and it lists all the resolutions. Specifically the PS3's autodetect resolution (480i.)

At this point I'd have to guess something is faulted, the PS3, the cable, or the TV.


Have you tried the PS3 on any other TV if possible?

aslanlar
04-20-2008, 06:06 AM
Yes, i've tried the same ps3 with the same cables on another TV and it worked.

On the HDMI channel when i start it up with only the HDMI cables, it's still all blue, but if i then plug in the red/white/yellow cable and go to the SIDE channel, it works on the 480i thing... Still nothing with the HDMI cable though unfortunateli.

Ok, thanks a everyone who has replied. If there is ant1 who might know what the problem is, i'm waiting :)

railven
04-20-2008, 06:09 AM
Yes, i've tried the same ps3 with the same cables on another TV and it worked.

On the HDMI channel when i start it up with only the HDMI cables, it's still all blue, but if i then plug in the red/white/yellow cable and go to the SIDE channel, it works on the 480i thing... Still nothing with the HDMI cable though unfortunateli.

Ok, thanks a everyone who has replied. If there is ant1 who might know what the problem is, i'm waiting :)

Okay, can you get into the autodetect function?

It's a small window that pops up when you hold down the power button during boot. Does that work for you?

aslanlar
04-20-2008, 06:58 AM
No, should the TV show that or the PS3 show that?
Either way, nothing comes up.

(i have the latest online update, 2.3, i got it yesterday incase it makes a difference)

railven
04-20-2008, 07:06 AM
No, should the TV show that or the PS3 show that?
Either way, nothing comes up.

(i have the latest online update, 2.3, i got it yesterday incase it makes a difference)

Okay, test something for me please. (I haven't tried it myself, but will assume it works the same way.)

1. Connect the A/V (red/white/yellow) cable on your PS3 to your TV.
2. Put your TV on the right input.
3. Turn off your PS3.
4. Now hold down the power button on your PS3, keep holding it even after it turns on. You should hear a second beep.

On your TV. Do you get a screen that prompts you to setup your display settings? If so, that is the autodetect setting on the PS3. If you aren't getting this, then something is wrong.

aslanlar
04-20-2008, 08:18 AM
Ok, i took the HDMI cable out and only had the AV cable on the channel that it works on.
It turned black, then flashed blue, then started up normally.
Usually, it just starts up normally without any flash.

There was no setup for me to change any settings, just blue flash, and then the normal PS3 thing.

crysisworm
04-20-2008, 08:31 AM
It seems that your PS3 is natively setting itself to output at 1080p through the HDMI cable and your set does not accept a 1080p sig. So by setting the PS3 to output at 720p or 1080i through HDMI you should get an image...... When you say "channel" what are you refering to like channel 3 or 4 I hope you refering to the output because if you are actually on a channel you are way off...

P.S. disconnect the red and white audio cables HDMI carriies audio signals as well as video....

There was no setup for me to change any settings, just blue flash, and then the normal PS3 thing.

I doubt you will get the settings menu through the analog connections most devices wont show them unless hooked up through component or HDMI

railven
04-20-2008, 08:37 AM
Well, I'm about to go test the auto setup using both Composite (red/white/yellow) and HDMI.

Since I never tried it with the A/V cable I'm not sure if the auto detect works or if it just defaults to standard output. I know it works on HDMI and Component (since they support higher than 480i video.)

railven
04-20-2008, 09:01 AM
Yep Crysisworm is correct about the A/V cable. It doesn't do the autodetect screen, just does the second beep and automatically displays at 480i.

The autodetect on th 20/60GB PS3s automatically defaults to 480i. It then prompts you to setup your connection.

Since he can't get it to even do autodetect, and he's already set it to HDMI through the A/V interface, I'm starting to run out of ideas.

Let's try the long way.

Ok. Setup the PS3 the way you know it works (red/white/yellow) and get it to display. But make sure to have the HDMI plug connect on your TV and the PS3 too.

Now, go to Settings->Display. In there, click the HDMI tab. Click Custom. In the window with the resolutions (480i/480p/720p/1080i/1080p) only click 480 and 720. Don't click any of the 1080s. Click okay.

I believe this is when it switches over, the screen should go black. When it does, put your TV on input AV3 (HDMI.) Hopefully, something shows up.

If nothing, then I'm completely out of ideas.

aslanlar
04-20-2008, 09:08 AM
No the ps3 works fine using the av cables, so it isn't set to 1080i is it?

It's just that i can't get it to work using the HDMI cable. The HDMI channel (as in AV1,AV2,HDMI,SIDE) says 'picture format not available' but is blue like every other channel when i start it up with only the HDMI cable and do the turn on + wait for 5 seconds untill i hear another beep thing.

aslanlar
04-20-2008, 09:16 AM
??? i'm confused with this...
I go to settings=>display settings =>???
There's nothing called just 'HDMI'... Do i go to video output settings (current output resolution 480i) ?

crysisworm
04-20-2008, 09:55 AM
Yes, go to video output settings and set it to output at 720p.....that should give you an image with the HDMI cable......

aslanlar
04-20-2008, 10:49 AM
How do i set it to 720p??? It only shows the types (e.g. HDMI cable, and all these other types of cables)..
When i click on the HDMI table, it says it will do it for 30 seconds (and that's when i'm supposed to go to the other channel, but i can't find the other channel)

crysisworm
04-20-2008, 11:43 AM
I know this is frustrating aslanlar so lets do this one step at a time O.K.
step one unhook all cables between the PS3 and the TV....and power down the PS3....

step2. using the televisions remote control put the TV on HDMI input selection...

step3. hook up the PS3 to the television using the HDMI cable you have for it and power on the PS3......any results? if not then the PS3 is outputing in a signal that the HDMI cable does not display or the television does not accept...IE 480i or 1080p.....

Step 4. if this is the case power down the PS3 and hook it up to the the TV with the composite (red, white, yellow) cables that it came with to input #1 on you TV..keeping the HDMI cable hooked up also if this is possible....

Now with the TVs remote set the TV to input #1 and power on the PS3 you should have a pic that is being output at 480i go to the menu in the PS3 and look for video resolution output setting and set to 720p through the HDMI cable.....Now quickly using the TV remote again switch the TV to the HDMI input you should now see a menu screen from the PS3 asking if you wish to keep these settings say yes...and hopefully all is well..

aslanlar
04-20-2008, 12:56 PM
I've followed all the steps except 5.

There is no "video resolution output setting" but a "video output settings" with a subtitle of "current output resolution 480i".
(This is in the display settings)

When i click on the video output settings, it asks "select the type of connector on your tv" with the options of: HDMI, Component/D-terminal, Composite S-video, AV Multi/SCART.

If i click on HDMI, there is no other option, it just says:
Connector: HDMI
Press the O button. The screen will be displayed based on this setting.
If the setting is not correct, the screen will go blank temporarily.
Then, after 30 seconds the system will go back to the previous screen.

Change
x=back o=enter

So how do i change that to 720p?
I'm sorry if i'm doing something stupid, i really am, but i think it's correct?

crysisworm
04-20-2008, 01:56 PM
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/videooutput.html



If [HDMI] is selected, you can also select to automatically adjust the resolution (the HDMI device must be turned on). In this case, the screen for selecting resolutions will not be displayed.

If all else fails you may use restore default settings and then start from scratch and have it initially output at 720p or 1080i

railven
04-20-2008, 03:11 PM
I've followed all the steps except 5.

There is no "video resolution output setting" but a "video output settings" with a subtitle of "current output resolution 480i".
(This is in the display settings)

When i click on the video output settings, it asks "select the type of connector on your tv" with the options of: HDMI, Component/D-terminal, Composite S-video, AV Multi/SCART.

If i click on HDMI, there is no other option, it just says:
Connector: HDMI
Press the O button. The screen will be displayed based on this setting.
If the setting is not correct, the screen will go blank temporarily.
Then, after 30 seconds the system will go back to the previous screen.

Change
x=back o=enter

So how do i change that to 720p?
I'm sorry if i'm doing something stupid, i really am, but i think it's correct?

We're almost there! There is one window right before you get to that.

Okay, I got my Ps3 on and hooked up to my PC. So I will type to you all the things I see. Here we go:

1. Go to Settings.
2. Go to Display Settings.
3. Click Video Output Settings.
4. In the next menu, click HDMI.
5. In the next window click CUSTOM.
6. In the screen with the small boxes, check the boxes for 480p and 720p, not 1080i/1080p.
Press X to save settings.
7. Turn your TV to Input AV3 and see if it pops up.

aslanlar
04-20-2008, 05:11 PM
There is no custom option after i click on HDMI, though i vaguely remember there being 1 the 1st time i tried it on the other tv when HD did work. Right now, after i click on HDMI, it goes straight to the 30 second thing, x=back o=accept thing with no custom option.

aslanlar
04-22-2008, 09:29 AM
OK, now i see why i can't understand you.

I was allowed to use the other TV and found out what you were trying to say.

The normal AV cables work on av4 and once i click o to go to HDMI (in the 30 seconds that i have), it goes black and i have to go to av6 and there is an option if i want to accept. After i accept, it asks if it should be automatic or custom which is the thing you were talking about.

The problem on my TV is that after i click o, and it goes black and i have 30 seconds to find the right av channel, i can't.
So does anybody have a solution?

railven
04-22-2008, 11:37 AM
OK, now i see why i can't understand you.

I was allowed to use the other TV and found out what you were trying to say.

The normal AV cables work on av4 and once i click o to go to HDMI (in the 30 seconds that i have), it goes black and i have to go to av6 and there is an option if i want to accept. After i accept, it asks if it should be automatic or custom which is the thing you were talking about.

The problem on my TV is that after i click o, and it goes black and i have 30 seconds to find the right av channel, i can't.
So does anybody have a solution?

EDIT - OOOPS, I misread your post. So it works on another TV?

Try this, on that other TV, set it to HDMI with 720p. Make sure you leave it on HDMI.

Now, go back to your TV, and connect with the HDMI cable. Turn on the PS3, turn on the TV, and cycle through the inputs until you find it.

If this doesn't work, then I'm going to guess the HDMI input on your TV isn't working.

We ruled that the PS3 works via HDMI and that the cable you used worked via HDMI. Do you have any other device (dvd player, Xbox360, etc) that you can connect to your TV via HDMI and see if that also gives you any problem.

I'm leaning towards a busted HDMI port on the TV.