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Can someone explain the blackout rules to me, please?

new_2_hd
04-06-2008, 12:45 PM
So, I live in zip code 65401. My regional MLB teams are the Cards and Royals. I am NOT subscribed to the sports pack on DTV. I still get channels 647 and 648 all the time. So, today right when the Royals game starts it pops up a message saying it is blacked out for me. How can that be? It is my local channel (that I get all the time without getting the sports pack) and then it blacks out during the game! I could see the games all last week!

Just to note, it is also blacked out on the EI channel.

odictamis
04-07-2008, 08:40 AM
I really don't understand any of this either, other than they (Direct + MLB want all of your $ and provide you with nothing. They will tell you anything you want to hear, so you will subscribe only to later tell you that you can't see anything. Here is my long story from another forum post:

Basically MLB (and all the other sports) are scumbags!! All they want is the money, at the expense of their fans who only want to watch the sport. I live in eastern NC. They (Direct TV + MLB) claim that my home teams are the Nationals, Orioles and Braves. They are all 5 hours away.

I recently got Direct TV and was told that I would get Sportsouth (by 4 different reps and 1 supervisor), only to find out its a regional channel and I can't get it in my area. I live in zip code 27828. Sportsouth carries half of the Braves TV schedule, so I am screwed. I can't get EI, because the Braves would be blacked out. And I can't get Sportsouth because it's out of my "region", even though the Braves are my home team. How does this make sense? If they are my "home team". Why is the channel not available in my area? That's the question?

new_2_hd
04-07-2008, 09:08 AM
I really don't understand any of this either, other than they (Direct + MLB want all of your $ and provide you with nothing. They will tell you anything you want to hear, so you will subscribe only to later tell you that you can't see anything. Here is my long story from another forum post:

Basically MLB (and all the other sports) are scumbags!! All they want is the money, at the expense of their fans who only want to watch the sport. I live in eastern NC. They (Direct TV + MLB) claim that my home teams are the Nationals, Orioles and Braves. They are all 5 hours away.

I recently got Direct TV and was told that I would get Sportsouth (by 4 different reps and 1 supervisor), only to find out its a regional channel and I can't get it in my area. I live in zip code 27828. Sportsouth carries half of the Braves TV schedule, so I am screwed. I can't get EI, because the Braves would be blacked out. And I can't get Sportsouth because it's out of my "region", even though the Braves are my home team. How does this make sense? If they are my "home team". Why is the channel not available in my area? That's the question?

Yeah, that sucks man. I guess the people living in Iowa are claimed by 6 different MLB teams, but aren't really close to any of them. I feel for you all.

I actually live in the state my team is in (just 3-4 hours away) and I still am getting blacked out on a RSN I get. It makes no sense! I guess at the MLB owners meeting next month they are supposed to address the team territories and try to fix it so people can actually see these teams which claim them.

What I don't get is why these teams claim territory in areas with people not able to view their games. Honestly, with EI letting people watch out of market games, it is easier for people these days to follow out of market teams than in market teams. That would seem against logic for these teams to do this.

odictamis
04-07-2008, 09:35 AM
The MLB EI package text should read:

"MLB EXTRA INNINGS brings you up to 80 out-of-market games a week during the regular season, including all of the teams you could care less about! Follow anybody BUT your favorite teams and players without leaving home."

I really hope they address this mess during the meetings. But even if they do, I guess I'm still stuck with MLB audio this year.

bobsox
04-07-2008, 09:40 AM
I was unhappy as well Sat with all the MLB games blacked out even with the MLB package. Fox Channel broadcasted a game at 4pm that day. I am sure it is the same as last year in that Fox Channel will be broadcasting a game every Sat and that there will be no other games available on the MLB package until 7pm or later. I'm not 100% sure that that is the problem again this year but I would venture a good guess thats what happened. I do agree however that it SUCKS....

WestDC
04-07-2008, 09:57 AM
Blackout Rule means- any game you want to watch is BLACKED OUT - any game you don't wish to see you get.


The real reason for Blackout rule is to Make the fans go to the park, and PAY for parking,food,hats and balloon's, If the park was sold out then the Blackout rule would not exist.

NFL-Blackout rule is Game sold out 72hrs before game time - NFL Sunday ticket Blackout is if the GAme is carried on your local OTA channels, then that game is not double carried so the AD man can get to you.

odictamis
04-07-2008, 10:45 AM
I just wish Congress would step in and look at what's going on. They are so concerned about Clemens sticking a needle in his fat rump, they can't stop to see what how the fans are getting the shaft with blackouts and other bad business pratices.

MLB (and other sports) should just drop the BS. If we pay out the money. They should give us everything!! No restrictions or blackouts!! They are so greedy it makes me sick!! And if I only get to see 18 braves games this year, they will lose this fan!! I would blackout my wallet, but they seem to have done it on their own, since I am blacked out of EI and can't get a channel (sportsouth) that DTV said I should get to start with. Anyway I guess back to radio for me.

littlechris197
04-08-2008, 12:01 PM
and I can't get Braves games on FSN South HD or SSouth HD. I have the Choice package and those channels are supposed to be part of my package. So would the reason I'm not getting them in HD be because of my package or blackout? I had to watch in crappy SD for the last week. If I get SS and FSNSouth SD channels, do I automatically get the HD Channels as well? Are all of the Braves games on FSN in HD?

hitdog042
04-09-2008, 10:15 AM
So, I live in zip code 65401. My regional MLB teams are the Cards and Royals. I am NOT subscribed to the sports pack on DTV. I still get channels 647 and 648 all the time. So, today right when the Royals game starts it pops up a message saying it is blacked out for me. How can that be? It is my local channel (that I get all the time without getting the sports pack) and then it blacks out during the game! I could see the games all last week!

Just to note, it is also blacked out on the EI channel.

It all depends on where you live for the live games. In Ohio, we get FSPitt for free, but the NHL Penguin live games are blacked out.

However, I get all the Indians and Reds games. It's all set by the particular league (MLB, NBA, NHL, etc..).

hgfire
04-10-2008, 11:02 AM
littlechris197,

You just asked the very question I have been scratching my head about this past week.

I have the MLB extra innings but so many games I get are in SD and yet I see no HD except for my home teams.

This MLB/Directv thing is surely a mess and from all the posts, its been this way for some time.

One thing I have picked up on watching games around the country is that for example, New York broadcasters are identifying the fact that this year, their games both home and away will be in HD. This was defiantly not the case in 2007. In 2007 is was only home games in HD.

I have been able to watch LA Dodgers in HD but it's never consistant and only seems to be when they are home. If I knew there was going to be all this aggravation about the games that can be or not be watched, no matter who gets the finger pointed at them, I probably would not have even bothered.

Several people suggested that this is all about the money and it sure is. It's always about the money, not about the fans except for taking our money.

littlechris197
04-10-2008, 12:43 PM
littlechris197,

You just asked the very question I have been scratching my head about this past week.

I have the MLB extra innings but so many games I get are in SD and yet I see no HD except for my home teams.

This MLB/Directv thing is surely a mess and from all the posts, its been this way for some time.

One thing I have picked up on watching games around the country is that for example, New York broadcasters are identifying the fact that this year, their games both home and away will be in HD. This was defiantly not the case in 2007. In 2007 is was only home games in HD.

I have been able to watch LA Dodgers in HD but it's never consistant and only seems to be when they are home. If I knew there was going to be all this aggravation about the games that can be or not be watched, no matter who gets the finger pointed at them, I probably would not have even bothered.

Several people suggested that this is all about the money and it sure is. It's always about the money, not about the fans except for taking our money.

I don't have any package, just D* Choice. 631 shows the game in SD but 631-1 only says "upcoming schedule" or something like that.

hitdog042
04-10-2008, 01:27 PM
littlechris197,

You just asked the very question I have been scratching my head about this past week.

I have the MLB extra innings but so many games I get are in SD and yet I see no HD except for my home teams.

This MLB/Directv thing is surely a mess and from all the posts, its been this way for some time.

One thing I have picked up on watching games around the country is that for example, New York broadcasters are identifying the fact that this year, their games both home and away will be in HD. This was defiantly not the case in 2007. In 2007 is was only home games in HD.

I have been able to watch LA Dodgers in HD but it's never consistant and only seems to be when they are home. If I knew there was going to be all this aggravation about the games that can be or not be watched, no matter who gets the finger pointed at them, I probably would not have even bothered.

Several people suggested that this is all about the money and it sure is. It's always about the money, not about the fans except for taking our money.

Did you buy super fan? If not, the only HD games you get is your home area.

I have superfan, and I'm getting all the games in HD that are available, no issues whatsoever.

hitdog042
04-10-2008, 01:28 PM
I don't have any package, just D* Choice. 631 shows the game in SD but 631-1 only says "upcoming schedule" or something like that.
If the game is not available in HD, that's what it would say.

Not all games are in HD.

hgfire
04-10-2008, 01:56 PM
Hitdog042,

Thanks for the info on Superfan.

Yes indeed, every aspect does have its price.

The HD games I have already seen, must have been part of a freeview week-end.

Did they charge you for the month of September separately? I see the longest plan listed is only 4 months.

hitdog042
04-10-2008, 02:31 PM
Hitdog042,

Thanks for the info on Superfan.

Yes indeed, every aspect does have its price.

The HD games I have already seen, must have been part of a freeview week-end.

Did they charge you for the month of September separately? I see the longest plan listed is only 4 months.

I paid all up front, but got superfan for free. I've also been a subscriber since pretty much their inception, back when they had those silly single lnb dishes.

The first week, yes, was a free view.

As for the payment play, it's just 4 payments splitting up the total cost. The length of the season doesn't matter.