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Must read article on Comcast.........

Cozdiver
03-25-2008, 12:54 PM
Wow... What a surprise.........

http://www.tvpredictions.com/2008/03/is-comcast-squeezing-your-hd-picture.html

deadhead68
03-25-2008, 01:21 PM
Wow... What a surprise.........

http://www.tvpredictions.com/2008/03/is-comcast-squeezing-your-hd-picture.html

Maybe they're not doing this in Chicago because I have not noticed any difference in PQ. I have an OTA connected also and can see no difference between the locals with Comcast and OTA.

DeadHead68

Cozdiver
03-25-2008, 02:08 PM
I hardly ever use to have any hd channel problems until recently. Now I get pixelation and sound problems on alot of them.

Michial
03-25-2008, 03:30 PM
I hardly ever use to have any hd channel problems until recently. Now I get pixelation and sound problems on alot of them.

We need to have a petition or have somebody with influence like Swanni speak to comcast on our behalf to have them eliminate analog for bandwidth space and limit 2 HD channels per QAM.

goober22
03-25-2008, 04:14 PM
When D* rolled out their mpeg2 channels they did down-res alot of them. So far, the mpeg4 ones seem to be full res.

Now it seems that Comcast (which uplinks to other cable providers; charter, cox) is now guilty of down-ressing as well to get bandwidth.

I'll just stick with D* and their 4 sat HD launches for HD; instead of Comcast and their down-res to try and compete.

Lee Stewart
03-25-2008, 07:37 PM
Still having a problem with History HD channel - it is squeezed down from 1.78 to 2.40 with bars on the top and bottom of the image . . . but not on all shows. Ax Men is fine . . . Modern Marvels is hit or miss. Future Weapons is LTBX'd.

treker
03-25-2008, 07:39 PM
When D* rolled out their mpeg2 channels they did down-res alot of them. So far, the mpeg4 ones seem to be full res.

Now it seems that Comcast (which uplinks to other cable providers; charter, cox) is now guilty of down-ressing as well to get bandwidth.

I'll just stick with D* and their 4 sat HD launches for HD; instead of Comcast and their down-res to try and compete.

Directv is crap, always has been, always will be, no problem with Comcast here

By the way had Directv for 8 years and it was K, not anymore

rslamon
03-26-2008, 10:25 AM
I have noticed changes in the sound quality, specifically on HBO and our local CBS affiliate. Related maybe?

goober22
03-26-2008, 02:05 PM
Directv is crap, always has been, always will be, no problem with Comcast here

By the way had Directv for 8 years and it was K, not anymore

To each his own, enjoy!

treker
03-27-2008, 08:40 AM
To each his own, enjoy!

I do, thanks

Emil
03-27-2008, 12:15 PM
Directv is crap, always has been, always will be, no problem with Comcast here

By the way had Directv for 8 years and it was K, not anymore

Just curious, how long have you been away from Directv?

Somewhat confused by you saying Directv has always been crap but then in the next sentence saying it was K for 8 years, please explain.

I ask because I'm considering going to Directv because of the impending Comcast downresing.

Thanks

treker
03-27-2008, 02:56 PM
While we lived in Northern Va ( Alexandria) we first stated out with then Media General which was taken over by Cox. This was the early 90's the price on Cox was making leaps and bounds, and PQ was starting to suffer. While I was at a customers house with my crew the home owner was excited to show me his newly install satellite TV system, those days it was called USSB. The PQ at that time was great, but of course they didn't have the channels they do now, so I am sure that PQ didn't suffer as much. A few months later I installed the system at our house, and on analog TV's at the time things were fine, When I got into HD in early 2000's there really wasn't much too complain about as there was very little programming. 2004 was when we notice the HD decline specially in the HD locals, we had an antenna for our locals (OTA) when they informed us that the DC area locals were now on Directv we signed up for the and I took the antenna down. After viewing the locals for a week I put the antenna back up, there was a major difference. But Directv was still ahead of Cox on the other HD programming. After my parents passed away we decided to leave the DC area as there was no reason for us to stay(DC area is a great place to make money but a lousy place to raise childern) and the real estate market was peaking in 2004 we made a killing. We moved here to Massanutten VA, a 4 season resort, outside Harrisonburg Va. It was winter and I was not about too mess around with the satellite dish, we were getting Adelphia HSI anyway and since there was no contract I went ahead and had the TV service activated, I would put the Directv dish back up when the weather was better. After watching the cable TV it seem to me that the PQ of cable looked sharper and more vibrant. When we got a warm day I put the dish back up hooked up the box and we started to compare the services, Adelphia was in fact a better picture. We have been here 2 years and of course Adelphia is now Comcast, my understanding from talking to Comcast installers(from Adelphia)is that when Adelphia was in charge they had a really state of the art system covering Rockingham county (probably why the Comcast service is so good) that coupled with the fact that there is only 80K people--less demand on the system-- we have excellent service. When I go back and visit my brother in Norhtern Va and see his Cox service I can see why some people hate cable. For the heck of it this past summer (after getting the"We want you back" letters from Directv for months) I called Directv to hear thier deal, 1 free HD DVR but I would have to pay/lease for the other 3, almost 700.00 and the 2 year contract. Besides never seeing my 700.00 again, the 2 year contract jerked me the most, we have no loans, no contracts, at this point and I want to keep it that way
Now you maybe in an area which Directv will suit you the best, if you get it installed remember when you order to ask how long you have to cancel without a penalty, and get the CSR ID you order from. then do a side by side, see which you are the happiest with. The 32 HD channels we get now seems to make my family content

Emil
03-27-2008, 03:15 PM
Thanks for the explanation.

Another reason I asked was I had Directv until Dec 2006 and I thought it was excellent. When I got my HD however Directv was still in mpeg2 and HDLite so I went to Comcast. Now hearing about the downresing and knowing Directv has new satellites and mpeg4 I'm thinking it will be where I want to be.

The service would have a 2yr commitment.

Thanks again.

davecramer74
03-28-2008, 11:48 AM
id have to call bs on those pics. My comcast looks like the verizon pics, not the comcast ones.

deadhead68
03-28-2008, 11:55 AM
id have to call bs on those pics. My comcast looks like the verizon pics, not the comcast ones.

Mine too.

DeadHead68

treker
03-29-2008, 11:29 AM
Mine too.

DeadHead68

Same here, sometimes the PQ is not as clear but I belive that Comcast is just receiving it that way, because the next show on the same channel is just fine

joekewl1971
03-31-2008, 01:14 AM
Never had HD from D*, but I found reasons to hate them. In general I do not have any problems with compression. Looks the same as ever to me. People are constantly complaining. HD to me is like a movie theater at home. Comcast is great.

joekewl1971
03-31-2008, 11:47 PM
I could not stop thinking about this. Went to the original source article from AVS Forum. There is not any proof there. Seems like a rumor to me. Real jornalists would not report like that. I would like to fit more shows on my DVR. TNT on my DVR uses more data than any other channel. One hour of TNT can work out the same as many feature movies from other channels. If they would reduce the data rate of TNT I would be very happy. Compression is not a bad thing.

oblioman
04-01-2008, 07:14 PM
Never had HD from D*, but I found reasons to hate them. In general I do not have any problems with compression. Looks the same as ever to me. People are constantly complaining. HD to me is like a movie theater at home. Comcast is great.

HD is better than a movie theater at home. Especially on BD or HD DVD - but certainly not comcast. The HD that me receives from Comcast is nothing but upconverted SD - with the exception of MOJO. Now, you say that compression does not make a difference. Take the compression challenge - Watch 2 1/2 Men (Monday nights on CBS) via Comcast, then watch it OTA. Simply no comparison.

deadhead68
04-02-2008, 08:58 AM
HD is better than a movie theater at home. Especially on BD or HD DVD - but certainly not comcast. The HD that me receives from Comcast is nothing but upconverted SD - with the exception of MOJO. Now, you say that compression does not make a difference. Take the compression challenge - Watch 2 1/2 Men (Monday nights on CBS) via Comcast, then watch it OTA. Simply no comparison.

I have done that compression challenge and I must admit that Comcast is so darn close to OTA that I cannot tell a difference. I have both connected in case I need to record 2 shows and watch a 3rd that are on at the same time. If I see macro-blocking or audio issues with the Comcast feed, I switch to OTA and most of the time I see it there too.

DeadHead68

treker
04-04-2008, 09:02 AM
Watch 2 1/2 Men (Monday nights on CBS) via Comcast, then watch it OTA. Simply no comparison.

If your watching that crap you need help

ranbob
04-04-2008, 09:20 AM
If your watching that crap you need help

You don't like what someone else likes in programming? Who are you to judge? Why do you feel your tastes are any better?
For me, I don't like "reality" shows but that is my preference. I'm not going to put down anyway else that enjoys them.

Your kind of juvenile comments are what give other wise good forums a bad rap. But you are entitled to your opinion. However, no one asked for it.

Now back on topic: I too have noticed a significant deterioration in my HD pq over the past few months from Comcast. Yes, we just got 6 new HD channels. The OP's submitted article would explain that.

Lee Stewart
04-04-2008, 10:50 AM
Comcast is not alone on this issue:

Rogers Cable to implement more compression on some HD signals

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/04/04/rogers-cable-to-implement-compression-on-some-hd-signals/

RedSIinPA
04-04-2008, 12:02 PM
If your watching that crap you need help


why's it crap? I don't watch it, but I'm just curious what motivates you to piledrive oblioman on a fairly innocuous tv show (that I've heard isn't bad...)

treker
04-05-2008, 08:59 AM
[QUOTE=ranbob;576766]

Your kind of juvenile comments are what give other wise good forums a bad rap. But you are entitled to your opinion. However, no one asked for it.



As you said my opinion, you don't like the comment then hit the ignore tab and be done with it twit

ranbob
04-05-2008, 09:31 AM
[QUOTE=ranbob;576766]

Your kind of juvenile comments are what give other wise good forums a bad rap. But you are entitled to your opinion. However, no one asked for it.



As you said my opinion, you don't like the comment then hit the ignore tab and be done with it twit

Twit? Ah, resort to name calling.
Beam me up Scotty, no intelligent life here!

oblioman
04-05-2008, 03:11 PM
If your watching that crap you need help

2 1/2 Men was one of the first CBS Broadcast's in HD, and might me add, wonderfully done. Hence, me reason for comparison. As for me choice of programming, it simply is me choice. Now, it was your choice to point out that one needs "help", or to refer to forum members as "twits". With a sour attitude such as yours, why bother to come on a public forum? Your feeble attempt at making or trying to prove anything is laughable at best, and at worst, will only get you bounced around on this fine forum.

joekewl1971
04-06-2008, 01:38 AM
How far back does 2 and a Half Men go? I always imagine sit coms as being SD. CBS has long running HD. CSI, Without a Trace, Cold Case are examples of older shows. Does 2 and a Half Men pre date these other shows? I am curious.

deadhead68
04-06-2008, 09:37 AM
2 1/2 Men was one of the first CBS Broadcast's in HD, and might me add, wonderfully done. Hence, me reason for comparison. As for me choice of programming, it simply is me choice. Now, it was your choice to point out that one needs "help", or to refer to forum members as "twits". With a sour attitude such as yours, why bother to come on a public forum? Your feeble attempt at making or trying to prove anything is laughable at best, and at worst, will only get you bounced around on this fine forum.

I think Everybody Loves Raymond was CBS's first sitcom to go HD.

DeadHead68

oblioman
04-06-2008, 07:38 PM
How far back does 2 and a Half Men go? I always imagine sit coms as being SD. CBS has long running HD. CSI, Without a Trace, Cold Case are examples of older shows. Does 2 and a Half Men pre date these other shows? I am curious.

2 1/2 men goes back to 2003. Other shows pre-date it, deadhead is correct that RayMond was broadcast in HD before 2 1/2 Men. CBS had HD broadcast's as early as 1999, and me thinks they did a soap as one of their first daytime HD's. Me should have stated that one of ME first regularly scheduled broadcast's in HD that we enjoyed was 2 1/2 Men. We still enjoy the humor.

RedSIinPA
04-07-2008, 07:39 AM
Your kind of juvenile comments are what give other wise good forums a bad rap. But you are entitled to your opinion. However, no one asked for it.



As you said my opinion, you don't like the comment then hit the ignore tab and be done with it twit

the fact that this place is a good forum is in no way taking into account your 'valuable' feedback. Consider yourself ignored.

cheezz
04-08-2008, 01:35 AM
You all remember a couple of years back when DirecTV was sued for providing customers with HD Lite? Whatever came to that case? I am with Comcast and I have noticed PQ degradation within the last two weeks. Discovery HD which had been the showcase of high def programming is now like watching a slightly improved SD shows. This is really p**ing me off. Can't get the real potential of my HDTV...ughhh! I see DirecTV or FIOS in my future...along with 52 other tenants in my condo complex.

cheezz