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Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 2 Review (Xbox 360)

Razor05
03-18-2008, 07:53 AM
TeamXbox gives it a 8.4

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 2 Review (Xbox 360) (http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1488/Tom-Clancys-Rainbow-Six-Vegas-2/p1/)

raiderfan
03-18-2008, 08:14 AM
wow... game informer gave it a 9.25 -- just read the review in the mag yesterday afternoon.

Nexgenrulz
03-18-2008, 11:14 AM
wow... game informer gave it a 9.25 -- just read the review in the mag yesterday afternoon.

They also gave MLB 2k8 an 8.5. Totally disagree with that one. Should have been no higher than a 7.

Cygnus
03-18-2008, 12:37 PM
I agree. I guess its worth $40 tho. No way I'd pay $60 for this. I like that you can join coop games already in progress.

Cygnus
03-18-2008, 12:48 PM
In case anyone wondered, further comparison between PS3 and 360 version:

http://www.videogamer.com/features/article/18-03-2008-342.html
Summary of the comparison:

* The Xbox 360 game supports up to 16 players online, whereas the PS3 game only supports 14.
* Co-op is for two players only on both versions and all the game modes are identical in each.
* Until we get the Dual Shock 3s in the UK though there's not going to be any rumble in the PlayStation 3 version. (Doesn't mean it doesn't have it)
* Both console games feature the same face mapping functionality.
* With the Xbox 360 and PS3 both supporting excellent surround sound audio there's usually very little difference.
* The Xbox 360 version runs at a slightly faster frame rate at points, while the PS3 game offers greater bloom effects, making for a more exciting looking game.
* Texture work on the two is nearly identical, but when running side by side the 360 version clearly has the edge on texture quality.
* Once again, it's an incredibly close contest, but the Xbox 360 game comes out on top. With a slightly smoother frame rate, rumble support for all and two extra player slots in online games, the Xbox 360 game is the version to buy if you have the choice. Xbox 360 Achievements and an all-round better online service in Xbox LIVE are the icing on the cake.

Ouch! :drinks

Mase
03-18-2008, 12:51 PM
well since I am trading in RB6V 1 for this game its fine by me, only reason for me to upgrade really is the co-op story mode. The last one did not have the option for this and was really lame after beating all of the terrorist hunts multiple times..

Co-ops or I should say "good co-ops" are hard to come by so I shall take what I can get and will buy this game tomorrow.. I will give my opinion after I get some playing time in with it

kamspy
03-18-2008, 01:10 PM
Here's what Cygnus left out. Same link

*Xbox 360 takes the win in the graphics section, but only by a whisker.

LarryLove
03-18-2008, 01:23 PM
Here's what Cygnus left out. Same link

*Xbox 360 takes the win in the graphics section, but only by a whisker.

Probably left out cause it says the same thing in what he posted. Im pretty sure * Once again, it's an incredibly close contest, but the Xbox 360 game comes out on top. With a slightly smoother frame rate, rumble support for all and two extra player slots in online games, the Xbox 360 game is the version to buy if you have the choice. Xbox 360 Achievements and an all-round better online service in Xbox LIVE are the icing on the cake" sums it up.

Type A
03-18-2008, 03:43 PM
Just as I thought, Vegas 2 feels like an expansion pack... I hate it when developers crank out sequels in 18 months. Do everyone a favor and make a true sequel, don't just add levels to your original game.

There were already expansion packs for the last game, two, as a matter of fact. While the game may look the same, it wont be the same in campaign or terrorist hunt...personal tactical scoring, all spawn at once, new cover system, new weapons and character customization are all decent changes for a goty.

gameguru1360
03-18-2008, 03:47 PM
cool!
I really wanted to know what the difference was between the xbox360 and the ps3 version. I read on another forum that in the UK, people have already cleared the shelves for the xbox360 version, leaving the ps3 version untouched! wondered what the difference was...I thought the ps3 version would be on a blu-ray disc and have better texture quality. well thanx to not having force feedback, another win for sony!!

gameguru1360
03-18-2008, 03:48 PM
There were already expansion packs for the last game, two, as a matter of fact. While the game may look the same, it wont be the same in campaign or terrorist hunt...personal tactical scoring, all spawn at once, new cover system, new weapons and character customization are all decent changes for a goty.

you forgot to mention that the terrorists in the sequel will also have thermals so that they can see through smoke and have the ability to use the shield!!

bboncorr
03-18-2008, 04:14 PM
dam should i get this game or not. i almost bought it today but the store i was at didn't have it in. i guess after reading the reviews that might have been a good thing. i hate buying sequals and getting the feeling it's just the previous version repackaged with some slight upgrades. kinda like what EA does.

raiderfan
03-18-2008, 04:34 PM
gotta get it to join us HDF'ers online, B...

Trantzz
03-18-2008, 06:02 PM
Probably left out cause it says the same thing in what he posted. Im pretty sure * Once again, it's an incredibly close contest, but the Xbox 360 game comes out on top. With a slightly smoother frame rate, rumble support for all and two extra player slots in online games, the Xbox 360 game is the version to buy if you have the choice. Xbox 360 Achievements and an all-round better online service in Xbox LIVE are the icing on the cake" sums it up.

Yeah, that about sums it up.....classic.....

Cygnus
03-19-2008, 08:42 AM
Fry's is selling the game for $39.99 this week. I will get the price match at walmart

$40? Do you mean hypothetically?

Mase
03-19-2008, 09:18 AM
Fry's is selling the game for $39.99 this week. I will get the price match at walmart

Frys online only has the original RB6V for that price they dont have #2 on their website even..

I have one down the street from where I work so I will take a look at lunch for sure...

bboncorr
03-19-2008, 10:52 AM
gotta get it to join us HDF'ers online, B...

I'm tempted by i'm also wondering how much i would play it. i tend to play FPS with my brother but i get the feeling he won't buy this game. between school, celtic games, COD4, and NBA 2K8 i doubt i will have enough time to play this game. then GTA is right around the corner.

is RB6 V2 better then GRAW2? i liked that game a little but i never got into RB6. now that so many people say it's like an expansion that kinda keeps me away from it.

Type A
03-19-2008, 12:18 PM
Im not sure why folks say its like an expansion...or even that thats a bad thing (considering this game was shooter of the year).

Mase
03-19-2008, 01:25 PM
I just picked this game up from gamestop as Frys was not getting them in till thursday afternoon. I also could not confirm the $40 price on RB6V 2 through frys since it was not in their system yet..

I will post my impressions tomorrow...

Cygnus
03-19-2008, 02:38 PM
Yeah fry's weekly ad mentioned that they won't get the game until thurz. I plan to go to walmart for the price match then

I just picked this game up from gamestop as Frys was not getting them in till thursday afternoon. I also could not confirm the $40 price on RB6V 2 through frys since it was not in their system yet..

I will post my impressions tomorrow...

kamspy
03-19-2008, 11:10 PM
Do not buy this game.

R6V:2 should have been DLC for R6V. Nothing has changed, not even the menus. Its pathetic. This game is such a pathetic cash in, I am actually offended. My copy goes on eBay next week.

List of things even the slightest bit different in R6V2
-voice actor who played every single baddy in R6V is now voice actor for your teammate
-approx 3-5 new weapons in total, all highest possible unlockables
-re-arrangement of unlockables (lower weapons are higher and vice versa)
-You play as your PEC character instead of Logan
-helicopter pilot helmet available as head gear
-left bumper is now run

Other than those few things, the game is 100% identical. Its an expansion pack. The menus, the load screens, the graphics, the character models, the guns, the physics, the sound effects, all 100% identical, unchanged. This game looks pathetic by todays standards. It cannot hold a freakin candle to COD4. The AI appears to have been severely dumbed down from the first installment.

I haven't even tried the multiplayer, but I see no reason to. I am sick of R6V's multiplayer, and since R6V2 is exactly the same, why should I enjoy its multiplayer anymore?

If you are thinking about buying this game, (especially for the multiplayer) try this instead: Put in R6V and load up a game of multiplayer. After 2 games, ask yourself if you'd pay $60 for a map pack. If the answer is yes, buy Rainbow Six Vegas 2. If the answer is no, skip it.

This was my fear. I will give it a rent just for the campaign.:(

raiderfan
03-20-2008, 05:14 AM
I initially thought i hated this game, myself... However I gave it a chance and played it hard for like 5 hrs online last night and I love it. It takes some getting used to, as the controls and gamespeed are much diff than COD4 (for those who came from playing COD4). But once i got used to those things, i loved the game. Its been so long since i played the first one that it doesn't really matter how similar the game is. All that matters is that it is a fun game and the majority of guys on my friends list have it and play it. This game def grew on me in a matter of hours and i won't be putting it down for sometime.

eck979
03-20-2008, 07:09 AM
I initially thought i hated this game, myself... However I gave it a chance and played it hard for like 5 hrs online last night and I love it. It takes some getting used to, as the controls and gamespeed are much diff than COD4 (for those who came from playing COD4). But once i got used to those things, i loved the game. Its been so long since i played the first one that it doesn't really matter how similar the game is. All that matters is that it is a fun game and the majority of guys on my friends list have it and play it. This game def grew on me in a matter of hours and i won't be putting it down for sometime.

Ditto..

Another annoying thing identical to the last one though.. Sometimes it'll do that damn thing in MP where you'll just hear a machine gun going off for like 2 minutes straight and it keeps going on through loading screens etc.. As soon as I heard it I remembered it from the first one.. it's annoying.

Mase
03-20-2008, 07:35 AM
I played the campaign with a buddy for like 3 hours yesterday and I am having a blast.. Sure the game in itself is not soo different but the story is different the scenery is different and being able to play 2 player co-op throughout the story sure is..

Honestly what sequel isn't like a expansion pack? Is that not the point of sequels in any entertainment realm, keep the core the same but change the story and scenary.. How many sequels get bashed for being something totally different than the original...

raiderfan
03-20-2008, 07:56 AM
Ditto..

Another annoying thing identical to the last one though.. Sometimes it'll do that damn thing in MP where you'll just hear a machine gun going off for like 2 minutes straight and it keeps going on through loading screens etc.. As soon as I heard it I remembered it from the first one.. it's annoying.


I think it does that at times until the last person hits continue to go to the team lobby after a game.. I say this because sometimes i don't pay attention after a game ends and i don't notice at the bottom of the score screen to hit A to CONTINUE, and when i do the machine gun stops. What causes it to begin with, i don't know, but as soon as everyone hits A and ends up at the team room, it stops.

Cygnus
03-20-2008, 09:16 AM
Thanx for the warning. I never finished the first one, R6V2 has better online coop and I can get it for $40, I think its worth it to me. I thought it was nothing but an expansion pack. This one may be a little worse since it lacks vega$' strip and exotic background...rite?

Ntruder
03-20-2008, 09:27 AM
Ditto..

Another annoying thing identical to the last one though.. Sometimes it'll do that damn thing in MP where you'll just hear a machine gun going off for like 2 minutes straight and it keeps going on through loading screens etc.. As soon as I heard it I remembered it from the first one.. it's annoying.

Oh my god, PLEASE tell me you are joking.

This is un-freakin-believable. The gun sound glitch still exists in the sequel?!?!?!?!?

People, please don't buy this game. Send Ubisoft a message that we aren't interested in buying their leftover scraps, and they need to put some effort into it next time.

Ntruder
03-20-2008, 09:29 AM
Thanx for the warning. I never finished the first one, R6V2 has better online coop and I can get it for $40, I think its worth it to me. I thought it was nothing but an expansion pack. This one may be a little worse since it lacks vega$' strip and exotic background...rite?

If you still enjoy playing the first one and would pay the $40 for more of EXACTLY the same thing, then by all means, get it. But do not expect anything more than the exact same thing. And I literally mean exact.

Ntruder
03-20-2008, 09:34 AM
I played the campaign with a buddy for like 3 hours yesterday and I am having a blast.. Sure the game in itself is not soo different but the story is different the scenery is different and being able to play 2 player co-op throughout the story sure is..

Honestly what sequel isn't like a expansion pack? Is that not the point of sequels in any entertainment realm, keep the core the same but change the story and scenary.. How many sequels get bashed for being something totally different than the original...

The last game had 4 player co-op. :confused:

Its not that the core game hasn't changed at all. Its that they did NOTHING. They simply added new levels, and took MP maps from Rainbow Six 4. They didn't even fix the gun glitch!!! Its just insulting when they put so little effort into making a new game. This is just a cash in on a name.

Another example:
Bad guy: "Would it help if I ran into your bullets?"
Me: "Gosh, that sounds familiar... Didn't I kill that guy about 18 months ago? At least 10 times.... On EVERY single level?"

Bad Guy: "Who's with me?" "I'm with you!"
Me: "Gosh, Ubisoft, don't even record new enemy dialog! That might actually cost money!"

Mase
03-20-2008, 09:48 AM
The last game had 4 player co-op. :confused:

Its not that the core game hasn't changed at all. Its that they did NOTHING. They simply added new levels, and took MP maps from Rainbow Six 4. They didn't even fix the gun glitch!!! Its just insulting when they put so little effort into making a new game. This is just a cash in on a name.

Another example:
Bad guy: "Would it help if I ran into your bullets?"
Me: "Gosh, that sounds familiar... Didn't I kill that guy about 18 months ago? At least 10 times.... On EVERY single level?"

Bad Guy: "Who's with me?" "I'm with you!"
Me: "Gosh, Ubisoft, don't even record new enemy dialog! That might actually cost money!"

Would you be willing to re read what I wrote?

I said 2 player co-op through the storyline not terrorist hunt.. two completely different things IMO..

So you do not enjoy it as it is more of the same, that is your opinion which you are entitled to. The things that they did change are a big deal to me and my friend, we play all the co-ops we can get our hands on.. I dont care if they have different voice actors or whatever as I am not paid to tear these things apart, in fact I PAY to enjoy these games not to dissect them..

I have enjoyed many games that do not get great reviews or ratings simply because I do not zero in on their faults. I tend to look more on the aspect that gaming is supposed to be fun.. That is just me though

Cygnus
03-20-2008, 09:51 AM
The original had online coop but you couldn't join games already in progress, right?

If you still enjoy playing the first one and would pay the $40 for more of EXACTLY the same thing, then by all means, get it. But do not expect anything more than the exact same thing. And I literally mean exact.

Mase
03-20-2008, 09:58 AM
The original had online coop but you couldn't join games already in progress, right?

It did have online co-op as I played the hell out of it.. Just no online co-op through the storyline..

Terrorist Hunt is online co-op 4 players on both the RB6V and RB6V 2

raiderfan
03-20-2008, 10:08 AM
Would you be willing to re read what I wrote?

I said 2 player co-op through the storyline not terrorist hunt.. two completely different things IMO..

So you do not enjoy it as it is more of the same, that is your opinion which you are entitled to. The things that they did change are a big deal to me and my friend, we play all the co-ops we can get our hands on.. I dont care if they have different voice actors or whatever as I am not paid to tear these things apart, in fact I PAY to enjoy these games not to dissect them..

I have enjoyed many games that do not get great reviews or ratings simply because I do not zero in on their faults. I tend to look more on the aspect that gaming is supposed to be fun.. That is just me though



I totally agree with you.. Army of Two was not a super game by any means, however, i got my money's worth playing co-op with a friend. We had a great time with it, but at the same time, i would not have bought it to play a single player campaign or for the online modes -- both of the games downfalls.

With R6V2, I will play the campaign with a buddy, split screen co-op or even online co-op, and will play the online multiplayer. These will all justify me buying the game, whether its similar to the first or not. The argument of saving your money and just play the first one doesn't work for me, because nobody else on my friends list is still playing the first one. If my friends are playing it and we can enjoy a few of the game modes, it justifies buying the game for me.

Cygnus
03-20-2008, 10:39 AM
gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/rainbowsixvegas2/review.html?autoplay=6188105&tag=topslot;link;2&om_act=convert&om_clk=topslot)gives it 8.5.

Ntruder
03-20-2008, 11:59 AM
Would you be willing to re read what I wrote?

I said 2 player co-op through the storyline not terrorist hunt.. two completely different things IMO..

So you do not enjoy it as it is more of the same, that is your opinion which you are entitled to. The things that they did change are a big deal to me and my friend, we play all the co-ops we can get our hands on.. I dont care if they have different voice actors or whatever as I am not paid to tear these things apart, in fact I PAY to enjoy these games not to dissect them..



Hold on a second, I read everything you wrote. For the record, Rainbow Six Vegas had FOUR player campaign co-op. Story mode. R6V:2 has only 2 player campaign co-op.

I don't know what else to tell you. Many a night was spent in that helicopter in the winter of 06, my brother sitting across from me with his face paint and tank top, and my roommate sitting next to me with his ballistic mask and NVG's, flying over the city of Vegas, about to get dropped off at Dante's Casino to play through story mode via Xbox Live. I specifically remember the first time the 3 of us played campaign co-op, we were so annoyed that all the dialog was removed because it didn't make sense with your custom characters.

Quote from the IGN review of R6V2:
"Campaign co-op was shrunk from four players down to two"

Ntruder
03-20-2008, 12:00 PM
It did have online co-op as I played the hell out of it.. Just no online co-op through the storyline..


I feel bad for you missing out on the storyline co-op, it was a lot of fun!

Maybe the PS3 version didn't have it. :confused: I dunno.

Ntruder
03-20-2008, 12:06 PM
It did have online co-op as I played the hell out of it.. Just no online co-op through the storyline..

Terrorist Hunt is online co-op 4 players on both the RB6V and RB6V 2

Ah ha! I have proof!

http://xboxmovies.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/4018/Countdown-Boosting/

The countdown glitch! Remember? People boosted up their ranks by doing online co-op level countdown! You could glitch through a wall and finish the last part of the campaign level in about 30 seconds and get a boat load of XP! Anyway, you can see at the beginning of the level there is another player in the elevator. And they are playing the countdown mission.

Mase
03-20-2008, 12:14 PM
I feel bad for you missing out on the storyline co-op, it was a lot of fun!

Maybe the PS3 version didn't have it. :confused: I dunno.

It might as well have been terrorist hunt there was no TRUE co-op through the story line.. You had to pick each level (like terrorist hunt) individually and when you were done you had to go back and pick the next one..

eck979
03-20-2008, 12:17 PM
I feel bad for you missing out on the storyline co-op, it was a lot of fun!

Maybe the PS3 version didn't have it. :confused: I dunno.

Nah.. you're confused man.
You could play through the levels of story mode w/ up to 4 people but it was different than playing it solo. They stripped the story and dialogue out and you had to load the next level manually. I wouldn't call that a campaign or story mode. it was just playing levels w/ some friends, you could just go to the last level and play it if you wanted. At the beginning of hte game when you're in that helicopter when you play solo there was a briefing and talking etc and I remember some woman coming on a tv screen in the chopper... when you played coop you and your buddies just sat there like retards looking around for 5 minutes until the damn thing finally landed.

Ntruder
03-20-2008, 12:32 PM
Nah.. you're confused man.
You could play through the levels of story mode w/ up to 4 people but it was different than playing it solo. They stripped the story and dialogue out and you had to load the next level manually. I wouldn't call that a campaign or story mode. it was just playing levels w/ some friends, you could just go to the last level and play it if you wanted. At the beginning of hte game when you're in that helicopter when you play solo there was a briefing and talking etc and I remember some woman coming on a tv screen in the chopper... when you played coop you and your buddies just sat there like retards looking around for 5 minutes until the damn thing finally landed.

No I'm not confused. It was campaign co-op with a Ubisoft level of polish, thats all. You and your buddies staring at each other in total silence like total idiots, I know. Thats called "Ubisoft effort."

So since now is you hear the dialog, we're saying that now it has co-op story and before it didn't? We're splitting hairs here... Just so we all understand that you could play through all the story levels online with 3 friends in R6V... Thats all I'm trying to say.

Ntruder
03-20-2008, 12:33 PM
It might as well have been terrorist hunt there was no TRUE co-op through the story line.. You had to pick each level (like terrorist hunt) individually and when you were done you had to go back and pick the next one..

Ok I see your point. Again, its not co-op, its Ubisoft co-op.

Mase
03-20-2008, 12:37 PM
Ok I see your point. Again, its not co-op, its Ubisoft co-op.

They should trademark that, but yes sir I will agree with you :eek: ;) . I dont mean to split hairs but it makes a difference in the experience for me and top it off with new levels and the sequel is not so bad.. I paid $40 for it since I had a gift card which made the choice even easier

LarryLove
03-20-2008, 02:20 PM
Ahhh.....I like it. Is it pretty much the same as the first one? Yea pretty much but who cares, the first one was good and they stayed with what worked. If they drastically changed it this thread would be going along the lines of " OMG! I cant believe what they did to my precious RSV! Its too different and nothing works." I mean Im with you guys who are pissed that it seems like an expansion pack but so what....If they would of offered me this expansion pack on RSV for 40-60 bucks i woulda bought it too.

Ntruder
03-20-2008, 02:40 PM
They should trademark that, but yes sir I will agree with you :eek: ;) . I dont mean to split hairs but it makes a difference in the experience for me and top it off with new levels and the sequel is not so bad.. I paid $40 for it since I had a gift card which made the choice even easier

I totally agree with you, I think the original "co-op campaign" was a complete joke, but I didn't know that you were aware that it existed, even in its pathetic form.

I'm mainly pissed about this game because its just a money grab, a quick cash in, and its kind of insulting to see the lack of effort put into this game. Madden games have 10x the new features as R6V2, and that says a lot

Ntruder
03-20-2008, 02:45 PM
Ahhh.....I like it. Is it pretty much the same as the first one? Yea pretty much but who cares, the first one was good and they stayed with what worked. If they drastically changed it this thread would be going along the lines of " OMG! I cant believe what they did to my precious RSV! Its too different and nothing works." I mean Im with you guys who are pissed that it seems like an expansion pack but so what....If they would of offered me this expansion pack on RSV for 40-60 bucks i woulda bought it too.

developers who want to release big name titles should at least put forth a little more effort.

What if Nintendo never made any advancements to Super Mario Brothers? Super Mario Brothers worked! It was perfect! Always top 10 on every all time best video game list. So why change it? Well, because technology got better as did our capabilities to make great games. So instead of just adding levels to Super Mario Brothers and releasing them for $60, Nintendo made a better looking, more fully featured game for their sequels.

Valve released Half Life 2, and then they didn't want to spend 6 years building HL3, so what did they do? They didn't lie to us, they released HL2: Episode 1, and 2. They could have called it "Half Life 3," but that would be a huge lie, since the only differences are a few new enemies. (which is more than R6V2 can say, in which the enemies and voices are the same. Even the same enemy dialog)

raiderfan
03-20-2008, 02:51 PM
Its funny... I've been reading this thread all day and understand what each of you (ntruder + lilmase) are trying to say to eachother.. i agree last year had co-op campaign but that is where it ended. what eck and lilmase are saying, and i agree, is that i would not consider a written blurb at the beginning of a map that you choose to play a storyline. No dialogue and no conversation. yes it was co-op, but no way in hell was there a storyline.

I know everyone is on the same page now, just thought it was funny to read!!

Mase
03-20-2008, 02:55 PM
Its funny... I've been reading this thread all day and understand what each of you (ntruder + lilmase) are trying to say to eachother.. i agree last year had co-op campaign but that is where it ended. what eck and lilmase are saying, and i agree, is that i would not consider a written blurb at the beginning of a map that you choose to play a storyline. No dialogue and no conversation. yes it was co-op, but no way in hell was there a storyline.

I know everyone is on the same page now, just thought it was funny to read!!

And it helps to pass the time when you dont want to be at work :D

I cant wait to get home and finish up the Ubi Soft co-op campaign ;)

LarryLove
03-20-2008, 03:08 PM
developers who want to release big name titles should at least put forth a little more effort.

What if Nintendo never made any advancements to Super Mario Brothers? Super Mario Brothers worked! It was perfect! Always top 10 on every all time best video game list. So why change it? Well, because technology got better as did our capabilities to make great games. So instead of just adding levels to Super Mario Brothers and releasing them for $60, Nintendo made a better looking, more fully featured game for their sequels.

Valve released Half Life 2, and then they didn't want to spend 6 years building HL3, so what did they do? They didn't lie to us, they released HL2: Episode 1, and 2. They could have called it "Half Life 3," but that would be a huge lie, since the only differences are a few new enemies. (which is more than R6V2 can say, in which the enemies and voices are the same. Even the same enemy dialog)

Lol...I hear ya bro. Trust me Im with ya, if they would of offered me this "version" of RSV as an expansion pack I would have gladlt bought it,even at a 50 dollar price tag. I guess just the packing it as a whole new version comes of as kinda greasy but in the end Im still happy. I loved the first one and Im lovin the new one.

kamspy
03-20-2008, 09:58 PM
I just gave this baby a rent on PS3.

Did the same devs that did the first one do this one? The level design IMO, is inferior. The graphics are even not as good (so far, I'm only on the third level).

The bullet penetration system is useless. Some things that you wouldn't think you can shoot through, ie: steel crates, I can blast right through. Other things that you'd figure a BB gun could pierce, ie: a cork bulletin board, are like shooting 6 layers of kevlar:what:

I'm still enjoying myself, but after being conditioned to COD4s control and bullet penetration, this game does not stand up. Keep in mind I'm not playing online because I only wanted to rent it for the campaign.

Am I the only one who still prefers the single player campaign in games to the multiplayer? I just see the online multiplayer as something to do after I've beat the single player mode on every difficulty. This one is tuff. I'm getting my ass handed to me, and I was the shit at Vegas 1. I think the vertical levels make it harder. It's hard to find good cover in rooms that have a 360 degree balcony with enemies at all sides.

All said, I'm having fun. But I am dissapointed.

Mase
03-21-2008, 07:41 AM
Hold on now, "Ubisoft Co-op campaign" is what we had in R6V. R6V2 has actual "co-op campaign." :)

Smart ass now im all sorts of confused :eyecrazy

I just gave this baby a rent on PS3.

Did the same devs that did the first one do this one? The level design IMO, is inferior. The graphics are even not as good (so far, I'm only on the third level).

The bullet penetration system is useless. Some things that you wouldn't think you can shoot through, ie: steel crates, I can blast right through. Other things that you'd figure a BB gun could pierce, ie: a cork bulletin board, are like shooting 6 layers of kevlar:what:

I'm still enjoying myself, but after being conditioned to COD4s control and bullet penetration, this game does not stand up. Keep in mind I'm not playing online because I only wanted to rent it for the campaign.

Am I the only one who still prefers the single player campaign in games to the multiplayer? I just see the online multiplayer as something to do after I've beat the single player mode on every difficulty. This one is tuff. I'm getting my ass handed to me, and I was the shit at Vegas 1. I think the vertical levels make it harder. It's hard to find good cover in rooms that have a 360 degree balcony with enemies at all sides.

All said, I'm having fun. But I am dissapointed.

I am the same way campaign first MP later.. I love a good campaign from a shooter and COD4 was the best too damn short but a freakin blast to play.. This one RB6V 2 is fun with a friend but you are right it is hard

eck979
03-21-2008, 07:49 AM
I think I like the campaign better on this than COD4 (coop). I'm trying to dig the versus modes but I'm not quite there yet.. once I get my muscle memory I'll give it another shot

Cygnus
03-21-2008, 08:28 AM
I got the game yesterday for $39.99 via Fry's price match at walmart. I have not had a chance to play it yet.

Type A
03-21-2008, 11:24 AM
Pisses me off they were supposed to do away with the spawn, and all the guys were to be on the map when the game launches, but thats not the case. Im a big terrorist hunt fan and Ive already spent some quality time with this title, there is nothing like a guy with a spas magically materializing behind you.

Ntruder
03-21-2008, 07:21 PM
Pisses me off they were supposed to do away with the spawn, and all the guys were to be on the map when the game launches, but thats not the case. Im a big terrorist hunt fan and Ive already spent some quality time with this title, there is nothing like a guy with a spas magically materializing behind you.

I figured they wouldn't fix that.

Are the spawn points in MP different? Or is the object of the game still to pin people in their spawn?

besz28
03-22-2008, 07:43 AM
i couldn't wait to get this game, after playing it, it is terrible i sold it on ebay for 52.50 iam shocked how terrible the multiplayer was. the graphics looked like some high school kids did it. extremely disappointed

eck979
03-22-2008, 08:11 AM
i couldn't wait to get this game, after playing it, it is terrible i sold it on ebay for 52.50 iam shocked how terrible the multiplayer was. the graphics looked like some high school kids did it. extremely disappointed

I felt the same way for the first hour or so I played it.. I was so pissed. But it's really grown on me, I like it a lot now.. shoulda gave it a little more time.

shooter2977
03-22-2008, 08:20 AM
same here, it has grown on me as well. The graphics could be better but that's what you get when you make it 18 months after the last one.

It's definitely a different pace from COD4, your not running around throwing grenades and shooting your gun like you just did an 8ball..


It took me some getting use to but i have come to like it.

pjc
03-22-2008, 10:28 AM
I am happy with it. I don't play online too much, so I REALLY like that you can gain XP's while playing solo campaign, coop campaign and terrorist hunt.

The game is similar to the first one, but it doesn't bother me.

Ntruder
03-22-2008, 05:55 PM
i couldn't wait to get this game, after playing it, it is terrible i sold it on ebay for 52.50 iam shocked how terrible the multiplayer was. the graphics looked like some high school kids did it. extremely disappointed

Good, so I'm not crazy.

Mine goes on eBay Monday. (doubt I'll play it before then)

kamspy
03-22-2008, 07:07 PM
The more I play the campaign, the more I like it. Especially the PEC in single player. Now I just have to see if those early levels have any replay value. I probably went through the first Vegas campaign 6-7 times.

Why the hell does that guy insist on saying "Spec-Ops!" every time I tell him to move his ass? You'd think they'd have put some new voices in there.

In the PC gaming world, this would be an expansion pack. Yet Ubi feels the need to charge full price.

I would like to own it though. If anyone has it for PS3 and doesn't want it, I'm willing to part with Time Crisis4 with the guncon in exchange. Just PM me.