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COD4 Rant

drbrosco
03-04-2008, 02:41 PM
I wanted to post this here as there are so many kids n Xbox forums.

I am a 9th prestige level(almost a Gold Cross:yippee: ) But I do not consider myself a "master" of the game I am just OK with good & bad days. I just love to play it.
But ever since I got to about the 7th prestige level I get cussed out more & more for using juggernaut & martydom. They say I am a loser for using yhose with such a high prestige. I say they are part of the game & anybody can use them anytime they want, it isn't like I am cheating.
I only use juggernaut until I get double tap as the other #2 perks suck imo. And Martydom is one of my favorite things about the whole game so I am not gonna stop using that. And of course this only happens from the guy I just smoked.

Do you guys with a high prestige use these perks?

cherman24
03-04-2008, 03:11 PM
I'm in the one with the red stars (after the green one. like #4). I use martyrdom on one and jugger on one or two. What are you going to do? It balances things out. You'll have ppl call you noob for LMGs, last stand, you name it. You paid for your system, you paid for your game, you paid for your internet...enjoy your system and don't worry about anyone else! That's just my .02. The only thing I "don't put up with" is glitchers.

oleviarules
03-04-2008, 03:15 PM
on the CoD forums people complain about Stopping Power. i used that perk since the beginning because it is, imo, the best in the game. it is open to everyone from the get go, so anyone regardless of level can use it. if using Juggernaut and Martyrdom gets you kills and levels you up faster, who gives a sh*t. you're the one leveling, not them.

awol
03-04-2008, 04:08 PM
I just can't wait until I can get the same guns that other people are killing me with. :o

Seriously. I'm only ranked 11 as I've just started playing Saturday, but seriously. There are people that can kill me with like 3 shots, but would take me a full clip to kill them. If I'm able to at all before they kill me. Another thing that I don't get. How is that they can see me, but I can't see them on the radar?? I've been watching the "kill cam" and they look like they are actually WAITING for me to pop out from behind the wall/car/door.

F91
03-04-2008, 04:19 PM
I never use juggernaut. I just don't like it, or usually need it. Stopping power and 3 rounds from the M16a4 and the party's over anyway. If they get 3 into me, so be it.

EddieDZ
03-04-2008, 06:25 PM
i never bothered with stupid prestige mode.. i see no point to get, you do not get anything except alittle dumb icon next to your name. you end up losing all your perks, weapons, skins, challenges and everything. why would anyone want to lose that stuff only to regain it again? i see no fun in that. i stayed at rank 55 and will always stay at 55. i know the other thing that you get is gold skin weapons.. big deal. gold weapons look ugly.

it would have been a different story if pretige offered more stuff like super powerful weapons or something to make it worth wild to choose prestige mode..

the perks i use and have settled with official are Bandoiler, stopping power and dead silence. .. first i dont run out of ammo, i do more damage with stopping power, and no one ever hears me running/walking around with dead silence so its very easy to be undetectable (ask glow, hahahahhah)

drbrosco
03-04-2008, 10:50 PM
i never bothered with stupid prestige mode.. i see no point to get, you do not get anything except alittle dumb icon next to your name. you end up losing all your perks, weapons, skins, challenges and everything. why would anyone want to lose that stuff only to regain it again? i see no fun in that. i stayed at rank 55 and will always stay at 55. i know the other thing that you get is gold skin weapons.. big deal. gold weapons look ugly.

it would have been a different story if pretige offered more stuff like super powerful weapons or something to make it worth wild to choose prestige mode..

the perks i use and have settled with official are Bandoiler, stopping power and dead silence. .. first i dont run out of ammo, i do more damage with stopping power, and no one ever hears me running/walking around with dead silence so its very easy to be undetectable (ask glow, hahahahhah)

well that is just a matter of opinion as most people do prestige. I think it is fun myself to start over with the first guns & it is not like they are bad. You get that m16 gun wich is easy to use & the Saw. It takes about 1.5-2 hours of play to get back up to level 20-25 so it is not bad at all. But whatever you like, that's why they give you a choice, wich is what I started this thread about, people cursing me out for the choices I make with perks.
I really don't think juggernaut makes much difference, & I may try using the Stopping power more as I just never really seen the benefits of it.

Oh well I agree with the first two guys that responded I am gonna use my perks on my game & screw the guys who don't like it;)

bboncorr
03-04-2008, 11:51 PM
I have people who used juggernaut. the reason is the game has a glitch with juggernaut. for some odd reason when you use juggernaut it seems to add even more shield power then intended. for instance as those same people who are pissed if juggernaut came up 5x in a row while your getting shot. now having that happen sucks hard. that is the specific reason i stopped playing team deathmatch. i switch to hardcore because the game is so much more honest. no juggernaut screwing me out of a kill.

one time i had my brother over and he was watching me play. while playing i followed this one kid until he came to a stop. well i unloaded so many shots on him and he got juggernaut 10x. i didn't even notice it at first but my brother was actually keeping count. he said the reason he kept count was because earlier i shot up that same kid and he thought it was odd that i used that many shots only to have juggernaut come up way to many times.

things like that are what people get pissed about. i honestly don't care is someone can take a couple extra shots due to having juggernaut but i hate when it popps up 5x and the guy ends up killing you when he should have clearly been dead 5 shots ago.

as for martydom i have only heard people get pissed about it while playing hardcore. the reason is it can easily kill your teamates. never ever ever use that perk when you are playing any matches with friendly fire on.

if people are complaining about it simply because they are getting killed by it then screw them. it's a perk and it's not like they can't use it or the game abuses it (like it does with juggernaut).

the perk i hate the most after juggernaut is last stand. the reason i hate it is alot of times i can empty my clip on the player on the ground only to have him take every shot. it makes no sense at all. then alot of times i find myself being killed by the playing in last stand before him body ever hits the ground. now how does that make sense. there is this split second while last stand is being initiated that you can't kill the player no matter how much you shoot him. well during that split second you can be killed by the playing going into last stand. and that's why alot of times i find myself being killed before the player going into last stand hits the ground.

i also hate the rockets. have you guys ever noticed rockets will turn on their own for no reason. i once launched a rocket and aimed it slightly lower then the still Heli. well my rocket went straight with a slight raise as usual but suddenly it took a 90degree turn away from the heli then turned again and again. basicaly everyone saw this and could not belive there was this 3/4 box of smoke around the heli.

also the rockets are useless when shooting them at someone. i once shot someone about 20' from me with a rocket. now the rocket hit them in the back. well according to the game i was to close to the rocket explosion so i died from it while the guy i hit lived and went on a killing spree.

how the hell do you get hit with a rocket in the back playing hardcore and not die but the person shooting the rocket dies. even the kid i shot it at had no answer for that one. well he did have something to say and it was "wow after seeing what just happened i will never bother with the rocket launcher, ever".

bboncorr
03-05-2008, 12:00 AM
play hardcore and you will find less complaining over perks. well only martydom will get you some attention since you will end up killing more teamates then opponets.

i'm not starting over again. i find i don't play as much now that i don't have my .50. plus now that the scopes are supposed to be upgraded i'm hating it. although i'm getting betting since i'm being forced to play with weak guns.

BTW: it's best to setup your perks based on the maps. for instance i use a M60 with UAV jammer on the warehouse. this gives me plenty of ammo with less reloading. i also use the grip so the accuracy is top notch. that gun is maybe the strongest overall gun in the game when the grip is installed. but it's not great for long distance shots. add the deep impact perk and now you got the perfect setup for the warhouse.

then on most of the other maps i liked useing the Overkill perk. this way i could use my .50 and a machine gun for when people come looking for me.

but what i'm finding is UAV jammer sure does help my deaths stay down. meaning my kills go up since i'm spending more time on the map.



well that is just a matter of opinion as most people do prestige. I think it is fun myself to start over with the first guns & it is not like they are bad. You get that m16 gun wich is easy to use & the Saw. It takes about 1.5-2 hours of play to get back up to level 20-25 so it is not bad at all. But whatever you like, that's why they give you a choice, wich is what I started this thread about, people cursing me out for the choices I make with perks.
I really don't think juggernaut makes much difference, & I may try using the Stopping power more as I just never really seen the benefits of it.

Oh well I agree with the first two guys that responded I am gonna use my perks on my game & screw the guys who don't like it;)

oleviarules
03-05-2008, 12:19 AM
I have people who used juggernaut. the reason is the game has a glitch with juggernaut. for some odd reason when you use juggernaut it seems to add even more shield power then intended. for instance as those same people who are pissed if juggernaut came up 5x in a row while your getting shot. now having that happen sucks hard. that is the specific reason i stopped playing team deathmatch. i switch to hardcore because the game is so much more honest. no juggernaut screwing me out of a kill.

one time i had my brother over and he was watching me play. while playing i followed this one kid until he came to a stop. well i unloaded so many shots on him and he got juggernaut 10x. i didn't even notice it at first but my brother was actually keeping count. he said the reason he kept count was because earlier i shot up that same kid and he thought it was odd that i used that many shots only to have juggernaut come up way to many times.
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things like that are what people get pissed about. i honestly don't care is someone can take a couple extra shots due to having juggernaut but i hate when it popps up 5x and the guy ends up killing you when he should have clearly been dead 5 shots ago.
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the perk i hate the most after juggernaut is last stand. the reason i hate it is alot of times i can empty my clip on the player on the ground only to have him take every shot. it makes no sense at all. then alot of times i find myself being killed by the playing in last stand before him body ever hits the ground. now how does that make sense. there is this split second while last stand is being initiated that you can't kill the player no matter how much you shoot him. well during that split second you can be killed by the playing going into last stand. and that's why alot of times i find myself being killed before the player going into last stand hits the ground.
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i also hate the rockets. have you guys ever noticed rockets will turn on their own for no reason. i once launched a rocket and aimed it slightly lower then the still Heli.

i'm confused with your Juggernaut 5x and 10x. are you saying it is a random multiplier of your health?

and i found the best anti-helicopter tool is a LMG with Stopping Power. i have a class specifically for that reason; can usually take one down with half a clip, and no worries about your bullets pulling two 90 degree turns.

drbrosco
03-05-2008, 12:43 AM
play hardcore and you will find less complaining over perks. well only martydom will get you some attention since you will end up killing more teamates then opponets.

i'm not starting over again. i find i don't play as much now that i don't have my .50. plus now that the scopes are supposed to be upgraded i'm hating it. although i'm getting betting since i'm being forced to play with weak guns.

BTW: it's best to setup your perks based on the maps. for instance i use a M60 with UAV jammer on the warehouse. this gives me plenty of ammo with less reloading. i also use the grip so the accuracy is top notch. that gun is maybe the strongest overall gun in the game when the grip is installed. but it's not great for long distance shots. add the deep impact perk and now you got the perfect setup for the warhouse.

then on most of the other maps i liked useing the Overkill perk. this way i could use my .50 and a machine gun for when people come looking for me.

but what i'm finding is UAV jammer sure does help my deaths stay down. meaning my kills go up since i'm spending more time on the map.


I wished I hadn't mentioned juggernaut because I only use it till I can use double tap. I use UAV Jammer & Deep Impact when ever I snipe.

And once I get most of the perks open I make a class for a couple different maps.

Now I make a class where I use the G36C(best gun by a landslide imo) w/ M4 carbine(I dont use the M4, but if you carry two assault rifles it doubles my bullets for my G36, as I get 180 bullets with the bandolier & doubled to 360 by adding the M4) & a frag. Then for my perks 1. Bandolier 2. overkill 3. martydom...I can kick butt on any map at any time with that setup, but I like to do different stuff too.

And I wore hardcore out for a few weeks & then just got bored of it. Pretty fun but to quick to get bored of imo.

raiderfan
03-05-2008, 06:50 AM
to me this is a good thread... what i mean is, i always wonder what goes against the unwritten "code" in fps online games. for instance way back in navy seals for ps2 EVERYONE online would crucify you if you used gernade launchers -- so to this day i don't use them in any games online!!

so i, too, wonder what is accepted and what is not -- really not knowing at all myself. i've been bashed for using martydom as well, but as b said, it was on hardcore, and i was killing my teammates without even knowing.

i guess i'm not as hardcore as others when it comes to online gaming -- i only play when i get a chance and could give a shit what my rank is... so i don't pay much attention to what others in the game have to say about what i do or how i do it (i think they feel bad for me anyways, as i suck so bad). but like i said, i'm always interested in what others say is acceptable and not in each game.

mshulman
03-05-2008, 07:43 AM
I think anything is accepted. Use whatever you want to give yourself and edge and kills.

Everyone can make the same exact choices if they want - people who complain probably just suck. I know many call the grenade launcher a noob tube, but its often a decent weapon and gives you an extra 2 grenades essentially. I've never heard of anyone calling the perk that actually gives you 3 throwable grenades a noob perk.

eck979
03-05-2008, 07:53 AM
i never bothered with stupid prestige mode.. i see no point to get, you do not get anything except alittle dumb icon next to your name. you end up losing all your perks, weapons, skins, challenges and everything. why would anyone want to lose that stuff only to regain it again? i see no fun in that. i stayed at rank 55 and will always stay at 55. i know the other thing that you get is gold skin weapons.. big deal. gold weapons look ugly.

it would have been a different story if pretige offered more stuff like super powerful weapons or something to make it worth wild to choose prestige mode..

the perks i use and have settled with official are Bandoiler, stopping power and dead silence. .. first i dont run out of ammo, i do more damage with stopping power, and no one ever hears me running/walking around with dead silence so its very easy to be undetectable (ask glow, hahahahhah)

Dude.. you sound bitter for whatever reason.

Anyway. I only use Juggernaut on hardcore, cuz stopping power is kinda useless and I use it w/ last stand! That really pisses people off.. oh well!

I use UAV jammer w/ my SMGs and stopping power w/ pretty much everything else. WTF else are you gonna use? Everyone uses those things. Oh, I could just leave that perk blank or waste it on something useless, but f that. I want to win and I want decent stats.. I suck anyway so I need all I can get!!

Oh and I almost ALWAYS use martyrdom, except for long range maps/weapons, then I use last stand.

F91
03-05-2008, 06:20 PM
I enjoy the challenge of leveling up again. I always go for the next prestige level.

mshulman
03-05-2008, 07:22 PM
I enjoy the challenge of leveling up again. I always go for the next prestige level.

Yeah, I just think it adds more to the game - gives you new challenges..etc. They are challenges you've already done, but it is different the second time around.

kamspy
03-05-2008, 07:46 PM
That is why it is called "Prestige". It shows that you have given up your worldly possession to fight anew.

Sad thing is, I'm only level 22 and I can usually smash most people in prestige mode. I just don't find that much time for it. Thus far, online leveling is only a mark of how often you play and not how good you are.

oleviarules
03-05-2008, 11:04 PM
That is why it is called "Prestige". It shows that you have given up your worldly possession to fight anew.

Sad thing is, I'm only level 22 and I can usually smash most people in prestige mode. I just don't find that much time for it. Thus far, online leveling is only a mark of how often you play and not how good you are.

completely agree. one game when i was in the 20s i played against an entire team of 50+; i thought i was screwed. then i went something like 30-5. it was then i realized that rank really means nothing in this game.

this is one reason i think Halo matchmaking is better as your rank is a pretty good determinant of how good you really are.

F91
03-06-2008, 09:56 AM
By the same token, it's pretty humbling to get your ass handed to you when you are ranked 35 and the other guy is a 6!

EddieDZ
03-06-2008, 10:04 AM
yea i think i'll keep my rank 55 with the 5 stars and all my weapons and perks :D ... i agree that rank only shows how much time you have in your hands to play the game :lol: when i see those people are lvl 10 prestiage rank 55... im like "damn dude, you truly have no life" and sometimes you think "wow, this guy is gonna kick my ass probably" and yet you end up kicking their ass :lol: .. i always try to go after players with high prestiage ranks like that.

Mase
03-06-2008, 10:14 AM
completely agree. one game when i was in the 20s i played against an entire team of 50+; i thought i was screwed. then i went something like 30-5. it was then i realized that rank really means nothing in this game.

this is one reason i think Halo matchmaking is better as your rank is a pretty good determinant of how good you really are.

My friend and I were saying the exact same thing... I am a level 16 or something and was routinely matched against level 40s-50s and some of those people did not deserve their rank, rather they just played the game for hours on end.. After a while I stopped worrying about my opponents rank as it had no bearing on how good most people were..

In Halo3 when you hit level 40+ its hard to stay there and most who do only play with people they know to keep from being on a shitty team and losing rank.. I think I am a 38-39 right now and getting to 40 is tough to do since I usually only play with one other friend and we get put on shit house teams the majority of the time..

Both games are are vastly different from eachother but still each one is fun as all hell..

GoDJ416
03-06-2008, 12:28 PM
Juggernaut and martydom both are completely noob perks. There are few instances were one is tolerated (marty on shipment) but having both?:lol:

Learn to play the game.

EddieDZ
03-06-2008, 12:42 PM
agree.. juggernaut is good for newbies cause it gives them higher life points. i use to use that perk alot when i first started off. along with the red dot too. thats a hard core newbie attachement :lol:

eck979
03-06-2008, 01:38 PM
Oh yeah the P90 and M16 are total n00b guns too.. :rolleyes:

drbrosco
03-06-2008, 02:09 PM
If you'd have read all the posts you would have seen where I said I wished I hadn't mentioned Jugernaut because that isn't an issue hardly ever anymore as I don't hardly use it.

But to tell me to "learn to play the game" is childish.

I didn't get my prestige by playing 90 hours a week. Yes i am disabled & don't have much of a life as I am stuck in my home 24/7 almost all the time & because of that I play 20-30 hours a week. And my daughter tries to get a little time in also. I started the 9th prestige Monday & as of today I am level 47. I'm nobody special, but don't dog me telling me to learn to play the game please, as I wouldn't dog you no matter what you use or if you was terrible at playing the game, I'm not like that.

Now I think when I get my Gold Cross this weekend I will use juggernaut on ever class for at least a week as I realize now I have been looking at this all wrong. Anything I can do to tick people off when they are playing is better for me:thumbsup:

F91
03-06-2008, 02:42 PM
I don't care what perks anyone else uses, why should I?

raiderfan
03-06-2008, 05:23 PM
I don't care what perks anyone else uses, why should I?

exactly!! who gives a shit?!? i just think its interesting to here what the majority finds "acceptable". (although i still don't use gernade launchers)

eck979
03-07-2008, 08:10 AM
Now I think when I get my Gold Cross this weekend I will use juggernaut on ever class for at least a week as I realize now I have been looking at this all wrong. Anything I can do to tick people off when they are playing is better for me:thumbsup:

There ya go!!! Now THAT'S the spirit!! :thumbsup:

GoDJ416
03-07-2008, 04:42 PM
If you'd have read all the posts you would have seen where I said I wished I hadn't mentioned Jugernaut because that isn't an issue hardly ever anymore as I don't hardly use it.

But to tell me to "learn to play the game" is childish.

I didn't get my prestige by playing 90 hours a week. Yes i am disabled & don't have much of a life as I am stuck in my home 24/7 almost all the time & because of that I play 20-30 hours a week. And my daughter tries to get a little time in also. I started the 9th prestige Monday & as of today I am level 47. I'm nobody special, but don't dog me telling me to learn to play the game please, as I wouldn't dog you no matter what you use or if you was terrible at playing the game, I'm not like that.

Now I think when I get my Gold Cross this weekend I will use juggernaut on ever class for at least a week as I realize now I have been looking at this all wrong. Anything I can do to tick people off when they are playing is better for me:thumbsup:

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