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To Buy Or NOT To Buy ..THAT Is The Question

rickbbb
03-31-2005, 11:36 AM
I want to buy the Sony XBR960.It will cost me $2,199 before taxes.Will buy it through Circuit City.There is no delivery fee.Which is good:) I'll use my credit card for the purchase.
I was hopeing that the price would come down for this set,but for over a year now it's stayed at the same price..through most Sony retailers.Also when Circuit City has a sale every week..the XBR960 price does not change.
My questions to all of you is...I make over 25,000 dollars a year and I have some major expenses-my monthly health insurance-$341,
utilities$250,food$500(I pay for my familys food),medicine for my cholesterol and type 2 diabetes and blood preassure meds$300 ,plus another med that is $383 a month etc..

Also right now I'm helping my mom with a $1,500 debt to be paid off within 3 months......Thing is..when I'm not at work I'm either at the gym or the super market and am home most of the time.I am on my computer alot and I watch tv at the same time on my current HDTV. I really want this XBR960. Should I wait to buy it or just use
use my credt card and pay the minimum payment every month to pay off the tv?
What would any of YOu do..given my situation?

Blue Goose
03-31-2005, 12:01 PM
You already have the HS420 right?...Given your current situation I'd stick with that. As we have talked about before, I have the XS955 which is the same tube as the one you are looking at. While the PQ is great I still think the 600 dollar 32" JVC that I replaced with the 955 had/has a more vibrant and stunning picture....at least to my eyes.

That is a big investment and I can tell you that making monthly minimum payments with interest(unless you have some interest free deal)will take for-e-v-er to pay off and cost you well more than 2199.

Given the numbers you have provided I would venture that you take home about a bit over 2K a month. ....you have listed almost 1800 a month in expenses and that doesn't include the debt with you mom. That doesn't leave much cash flow for the month especially with gas being over 2 dollars a gallon :eek: And sure as you know what something will come up that costs you a bit of cash unexpectedly(water heater, etc)

Personally that would be cutting it to close for me and if I am correct in thinking that you have the HS420 already, I don't think tha the XBR is going to make you forget the HS420 anytime soon for the extra cash.

Good luck...just my 2 cents :)

RSawdey
03-31-2005, 12:03 PM
That is a fine TV, best CRT out probably... but DUDE! Your finances are STRESSED! And you've already GOT an HDTV... you should save your money until you've got the cash. Paying the minimum on a credit card is the recipe for eternal slavery...

rickbbb
03-31-2005, 01:04 PM
I seem to be going through withdrawls over wanting this tv.But your're both right.My finances are too tight and I already have a pretty good HDTV Sony's HS420.
Last year I breifly had the Sony 34XS955.I should of kept it but decided to return it after only a week.Due to tight finances.

With my current tv-34 HS420..Circuit city gave me a $150.00 gift card..plus an instant $100 off the price.I already paid off that set.

I just remember that the 34 XS955 picture was so much sharper..that tv..just like my current HDTV were connected to my 811 receiver which i own through Dish Network.
The XBR960 sounds like it's probably the cream of the crop-the best HDTV tube tv around.
My credit card rate is 12.90.Still,you're right,it would take me forever to pay off the XBR960.
I have looked at the pcmall.com website where the prices are much lower than Circuit City or Best Buy...but..either pcmall.com is out of stock of most brands or they no longer carry them.pcmall.com has free delivery too,just like CircuitCity.com.And pcmall.com sister website macmall.com has great prices too..plus they both have in home delivery now.
So........I guess I'll wait.
It's just that the picture quality on my HS420 does'nt look as sharp as when I first got the tv set 2 months ago.So I'm very frustrated.

ja2935
03-31-2005, 01:24 PM
If you really are desperate to get a 34" widescreen why not look at the refurb lists - you can probably get a very good Toshiba for under a grand, perhaps even a Sony (opinions vary but the Toshibas are very comparable to the Sonys).

Jman03
03-31-2005, 02:19 PM
One word. STUPID. Every hear the saying its more expensive to be poor than rich. Well your situation fits that saing perfect. WIth all those expenses you should not be making purchases for anything you cant buy with cash. Do you realize the interest you have to pay back making the minimum payments. Its just stupid. Im a finance/acconting major. FOr instance Lets say you need to borrow $2000 at 10% interest over 3 years. You end up paying $2662 for it. But with credit cards its even more. Plus by the time you pay it off it will be worth1/4 what you paid for it becaus of how fast the technoogy is progressing.

ja2935
03-31-2005, 03:50 PM
With reference to my earlier post - I did not realize the set you already have is a 34" (I thought you had the 32" 4:3). Given what you have and your dire financial situation you should be thankfull for what you've got! Perhaps you are a candidate for Dr Phil!!!!

rickbbb
03-31-2005, 05:47 PM
I'm a perfectionist.I'm sure "Dr.Phil" would understand THAT.I am grateful and happy for what I have.The 34 HS420 is a pretty good Sony HDTV.But it's not the Best.The XBR960 is the best.Plus, if and when I buy the XBR960 ..I will give my sister the 34 HS420.Might as well keep it in the family,right?

Financially,
I am in a bind right now.But come to think of it..I was still able to pay off the Sony 34 HS420 in 2 months time..and I bought that on my credit card.Also,come to think of it..I will always have bills....as for giving my mom the $1,500 she needs...the first payment of that..which is $500 I'm giving her this Friday-on pay day.After that I'll give her $500 more on my next pay check and 2 weeks after that the last of the $500..totalling $1,500. Maybe then,I'll consider buying the 34 Sony XBR960..and maybe by then the price will come down on it.Probably some time in June 2005 or July 2005 I'll buy it..but I WANT IT NOW ! I love SONY products and I love HDTV's..I love technology ! I definitely will not buy a refurbished HDTV. I want something brand new-just out of the factory and box !

I bought a refurbished video recorder once and it worked for one day..then it stopped working.I'm not into refurbished.

If I could afford it I'd buy one of the newest and largest high Definition Sony LCD HDTV's.
I'm not foolish with my spending...I put alot of thought and time into making decisions..especially about the XBR960 which is pretty expensive. I don't travel and I don't go out to the hot spots in town..I'm a homebody and I love watching tv. Life is short,why not give yourself something that makes you happy and gives you pleasure. I only have one credit card...I rarely buy anything extravagant... I agree with all of you about everything you wrote...but either way..eventually I'll buy this tv and eventually it will take me some time to pay it off. I appreciate all of your support.There are alot of good people on these boards and extremely intelligent people.Thankyou for your kindness.

myers830
03-31-2005, 06:00 PM
This is most ridiculous posts ever. Write to Ann Landers or Dr. Joyce Brothers as your problem surely is not a technical one at all.

rickbbb
03-31-2005, 06:47 PM
You're all heart :eek:

HDohioTV
04-01-2005, 08:36 AM
Right now Best Buy is doing a 2 yrs no interest promo on HDTV's that are $699 and up. That covers your price point. Buy that shit now and enjoy your life.

RKZX2
04-01-2005, 09:44 AM
i got the 30'' version of the XBR. the 30XS955. it has the same picture tube, inputs, etc. just a smaller screen. which is perfect for me being only 6' from the screen sitting back on my couch. got 24 months no interest, no payments on it. i would've loved to get the XBR, but 50 lbs & $800 more was an issue.

gwhoughton
04-01-2005, 10:34 AM
Hey Rick~

Don't sweat the "little people" who want to bag on you for wanting something nice.

My finances are tight too. I decided to go ahead and buy the XBR960 because my old set completely stopped working, and Circuit City had a special no interest deal going with their credit. I just need to make sure I pay it off within the allotted time frame.

The TV is awesome. There are a couple of people out there who insist that their Toshiba is as good or better, but all of my research that I did pointed to the SONY KD34XBR960 as being the best quality CRT available today. I am VERY happy with it!! :D

Good luck to you!! Keep checking the CC site and/or the SONY Style site for interest free deals! :D

ja2935
04-01-2005, 10:56 AM
There is always the view that the more you pay for something the better it must be but lets face it how many of us offering 'knowledgeable' comments are in a position to directly compare one product with another? I'm sure very few have two different makes in their homes, properly adjusted, and are able to make side by side comparisons. We all tend to promote the one we ended up buying - almost in self defence - to show that we did all the right research etc. Comparisons in bulk retail outlets do not count as they are never set up properly and the viewing conditions are very different to how you would view them at home. Still, as long as people pay the price, manufacturers will keep charging as much as they think they can get away with - especially for a brand name like Sony! perhaps that is why they are also in dire financial straights.

gwhoughton
04-01-2005, 12:08 PM
There is always the view that the more you pay for something the better it must be but lets face it how many of us offering 'knowledgeable' comments are in a position to directly compare one product with another? I'm sure very few have two different makes in their homes, properly adjusted, and are able to make side by side comparisons. We all tend to promote the one we ended up buying - almost in self defence - to show that we did all the right research etc. Comparisons in bulk retail outlets do not count as they are never set up properly and the viewing conditions are very different to how you would view them at home. Still, as long as people pay the price, manufacturers will keep charging as much as they think they can get away with - especially for a brand name like Sony! perhaps that is why they are also in dire financial straights.

When I did my research, it was pretty obvious that the vast majority of information available on the internet pointed to the SONY KD34XBR960 as the best CRT on the market. As a matter of fact, the ONLY opinions i was able to find that ANY other CRT could compare to the XBR960 were from a handfull of users on this forum who own either a Toshiba, or a Lowes (sp?).

While I do agree with Ja2935's comment that "We all tend to promote the one we ended up buying - almost in self defence - to show that we did all the right research etc. ", I must point out that I most DEFINATELY did NOT buy the SONY because it was more expensive than the Toshiba. I truly have no problem with saving money! :D I bought it because I read over and over from many different sites that it was the best... the reference standard. My old non-HD XBR lasted over ten years, and survived the 1994 Northridge earthquake intact... :yippee:

If money were no object, I would have the 45" SHARP LCD panel in my living room instead of the SONY!! (but it's about 8 grand I think!! :eek: )

To each his/her own... But please don't infer that those of us who own the XBR960 are brainless sheep who blindly buy something because we think it MUST be the best just because it is the most expensive. I don't refer to Toshiba owners as penny pinchers who mearly bought their set because it was cheaper than the SONY. I am sure they are great sets too, and perhaps I would be just as happy with one. But personally, I have no regrets at all about buying the set I did. If it developes problems, I will certainly post an update to this forum to let every one know!! :)

ja2935
04-01-2005, 12:37 PM
Just to set the record straight - as an owner of an SD 27" Sony Vega (which seemed way overpriced when I bought it) I am definately a Sony fan and would probably have bought an HD one had it not been for a space restriction that reduced my choices to Philips or Toshiba. You are right, Sony is generally acknowledged by most reviewers as being the best in CRT direct view sets - no argument.

rickbbb
04-01-2005, 01:02 PM
I plan on buying the SONY XBR960.I appreciate your kind words and support.From all my research too..the 34 XBR960 has the best HDTV picture and is the best quality for a tube HDTV.

I can't buy through CircuitCity or Best Buy's credit cards...since I only use a regular Visa card.One credit card is enough for me.
I think when I DO buy this tv in June or July 2005 it should take me about 3 months or so to pay it off. The interest on my Visa card is 12 point 90 per cent on purchases.Which I guess is good.

I'd buy this tv through Best buy because BB usually gives away a free Home entertainment system or a free tv stand with a purchase of an HDTV..only problem is Best buy does'nt sell the Sony XBR960.
Also,I would prefer to buy from pcmall.com..they don't sell it either..they only sell the stand for the XBR960.
I'll probably go through circuitcity.com.

I have a funny Circuit City story to tell you...I bought a tv from CC and they delivered it..I bought it brand new....when it was delivered it was in a box that said REFURBISHED.I made them take it back.First they would'nt and said they did'nt know what the word refurbished meant..well, I SURE DID . Boy was I angry.
Another time...when i boought my new Sony HS420 a few months ago..the delivery guys from CC delivered the wrong tv...I insisted it was the wrong tv and the delivery guys said it was the right one..so after they left I looked on the back of the tv set and it was a 32 inch..and I had ordered a 34 inch Sony..the delivery guys came back after I complained to their boss and they apologized and said they had delivered my tv to someone else...they brought back the right tv... other than that..how was the play mrs.Lincoln?

RSawdey
04-03-2005, 10:37 AM
That poster has put up the same message in several forums... he's probably a 'shill' for the store... their prices are okay, only 10% off list... much better prices elsewhere.

jco
04-04-2005, 09:57 PM
I plan on buying the SONY XBR960.I appreciate your kind words and support.From all my research too..the 34 XBR960 has the best HDTV picture and is the best quality for a tube HDTV.

I can't buy through CircuitCity or Best Buy's credit cards...since I only use a regular Visa card.One credit card is enough for me.
I think when I DO buy this tv in June or July 2005 it should take me about 3 months or so to pay it off. The interest on my Visa card is 12 point 90 per cent on purchases.Which I guess is good.

I'd buy this tv through Best buy because BB usually gives away a free Home entertainment system or a free tv stand with a purchase of an HDTV..only problem is Best buy does'nt sell the Sony XBR960.
Also,I would prefer to buy from pcmall.com..they don't sell it either..they only sell the stand for the XBR960.
I'll probably go through circuitcity.com.

I bought my 34xbr960 3 months ago and it has been a source of immense pleasure during that time. I paid $1850 for mine ( seller was asking 2199 but I argued it down. ). Like other posters noted, I didnt WANT to spend $1850 but thats the price and thats WHAT I wanted, the cheaper sets simply arent as good. To those who say that the cheaper sets are just as good dont have a clue, if they were just as good I would have bought them, they arent. When you consider the number of hours of use you get out of a good HD and how long it lasts, a really good HD set is a freakin' BARGAIN even at $2K. I think its really stupid to buy the cheaper sets because the best ones are cheap enough anyway ...... Get the 34XBR960, you wont regret it, I certainly dont regret getting mine and I am so glad I didnt buy something inferior just to save a few hundred bucks total over many years....

jco
04-04-2005, 10:13 PM
One word. STUPID. Every hear the saying its more expensive to be poor than rich. Well your situation fits that saing perfect. WIth all those expenses you should not be making purchases for anything you cant buy with cash. Do you realize the interest you have to pay back making the minimum payments. Its just stupid. Im a finance/acconting major. FOr instance Lets say you need to borrow $2000 at 10% interest over 3 years. You end up paying $2662 for it. But with credit cards its even more. Plus by the time you pay it off it will be worth1/4 what you paid for it becaus of how fast the technoogy is progressing.
There is a MAJOR OBVIOUS FLAW in your argument, and that is the VALUE of the entertainment the set will provide during those three years. Its not like he's paying for nothing, he gets to ENJOY THE SET during those three years. In my opinion the HD entertainment is well worth the price PLUS THE INTEREST and its STUPID to NOT own a top notch HDTV set, even if you have to finanace it to buy it. What the set "pays back" in entertainment pleasure far outweighs the initial cost AND the interest if you must finance it.

ja2935
04-05-2005, 06:01 AM
Yes, it would lead to a certain level of satisfaction to know you are getting the best possible picture whilst living on bread and water!

jco
04-05-2005, 10:12 AM
Yes, it would lead to a certain level of satisfaction to know you are getting the best possible picture whilst living on bread and water!
This is absurd thinking becuause high quality HDTVs are not expensive
at all in the overall scheme of things. Say you buy a $2000 set and its very reasonable to assume it will last at least 5 years. that's $400 per year cost of ownership. Most people pay at least $600 a year for cable or sat service ( I pay $1200 year for HD Cable!). What is typical housing now, $10,000+ a year? Food, $6,000+ a year, etc etc. Buying a HDTV set is not going to bust anyones budget because the cost is only a very small percentage of even BASIC living expenses.....No one is going to have to stop buying all their food to pay for a HDTV. TV's even HDTVS which are now far better than ever are CHEAPER than ever relative to the cost of living. I remember when a good 25" SD set cost $1000 - 25 YEARS AGO and nobody went hungry buying those back then or considered it a "luxury" item, PLENTY of people had them...alsmost everybody had a 25" in the living room, even though the cost in real dollars was MUCH MUCH higher than today....

ja2935
04-05-2005, 11:22 AM
It all depends what your priorities are - its possible to justify anything if you are so inclined - that is why credit card debt is at an all time high!

jco
04-05-2005, 03:30 PM
It all depends what your priorities are - its possible to justify anything if you are so inclined - that is why credit card debt is at an all time high!
NO, its not just personal priorities and "justifications". Some things in life represent such exceptional values that it is very foolish to avoid them. HDTV in my opinion ( and good home entertainment electronics in general ) falls into that category. No, we all cant buy everything we would like to ( unless we are Bill Gates rich or something) but it is pretty dumb to not buy the cheap things that provide great value, and based on my clear and concise argument above its pretty clear that a HDTV is not expensive and these sets today are an outstanding value for the money and wont be busting any budgets by buying one unless your homeless or something and I doubt anyone reading this is. I spend MORE per year just on internet access than I do on my HDTV set ownership costs!

ja2935
04-05-2005, 05:53 PM
Well, jco, I'm not going to bait you any more - you're too easy a catch! and this thread has strayed somewhat from the point.

rickbbb
04-05-2005, 09:35 PM
Life is too short not to enjoy the things that make you happy.Having the BEST hdtv makes me happy.That is why I plan to buy my XBR960 Sony HDTV sooner than I thought-probably by early May if possible.Thankyou for helping me make up my mind. :yippee:

jco
04-05-2005, 11:26 PM
Well, jco, I'm not going to bait you any more - you're too easy a catch! and this thread has strayed somewhat from the point.Nice try but you are the one with carbon black all over you....not me. And exactly how has this strayed from the point?
It hasnt, its just strayed from your absurdly cheap, shortsighted ,severely flawed, and pointless argument which opposes mine 180 degrees, thats all!

rickbbb
04-07-2005, 12:32 PM
Jco,thankyou for your support and smarts.I appreciated your help and am sorry you had to deal with a person who was in the forrums here who was putting both of US down.Apparently he does'nt want the best HDTV.He loses ,we win ! :yippee:

ja2935
04-07-2005, 02:18 PM
You asked for advice but you didn't like what you heard because in reality you had already made your decision. Having laid bare your limited finances what sort of advice did you expect? naturally you got both positive and negative.

I do not dispute that the Sony XBR is the best 34" tv - if I had the space in my entertainment center I might well have bought one. As it happens I am very satisfied with the Toshiba which is probably similar in performance to the Sony you already have.

This forum is meant primarily for technical advice and problem sharing - my comments were somewhat tongue-in-cheek but were interpreted rather seriously. I'm sure you will enjoy your set and hope you will not tire of it as quickly as you did the other one. Let us all know the 'wow' factor when you get it.

rickbbb
04-08-2005, 06:10 PM
;) Thankyou for your input anyway.

ozz3811
04-09-2005, 08:32 PM
Buy the tv. Eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we shal die. And if we dont, well then pay the bill. If you have a similar tv already why dont you go with a bigger screan tv. For that same money you can get a samsug 46 inch dlp. For the money its great. If you work very hard, and take care of the rest of the family, then you are entitle to please yourself a little. Its better to have it than to always be wanted it and feeling bad about spending money on everyone else but yourself. Sometimes you have to happy with yourself so that you can be happy with others. Some men spend all there money drinking, some on drugs, some on cars, some on gagets, some on cars, and if your here, then its on remotes, tv, audio produts. Just do it and satisfy that urge.

rickbbb
04-25-2005, 05:05 PM
I'LL Buy The Tv! :yippee:

wassim17
04-25-2005, 10:24 PM
Hey Rick, I know when I was looking into getting the xbr back in september, I saw it in my local circuit city for 2 grand regular price, not even a sale. So, this is months later, they should be willing to go down a few hundred. CC is pretty easy to bargain with, unlike best buy. Go in when you're ready, and tell them you'll take the tv for 1700 bucks on the spot, and I have a good feeling that they'd do it. Then, go home and enjoy your tv. Good luck.

OneBadPig
04-26-2005, 06:44 AM
My first question was, what the hell are you thinking?? To have a financial situation such as you have described, then to further burden your resources buying a "better" set when most households have no HDTV at all!?!?!?
However, i consider all major (entertainment) purchases on the basis of hours spent enjoying it vs. hours spent earning the $$ to buy it.
Using this formula, almost any music CD that i have was worth it .
My collection of DVD's is much smaller than most because i only buy vids i will watch many times.(girls gone wild...hee hee)
....what i mean to say is, if HD is your passion, then get it.
a previous post said eat drink and be merry, well i agree. I decided recently to spend a little more and not be so tight w/$$
I really cant take it with me.

Streetfighter1
05-03-2005, 07:14 PM
This post has got to be a troll job.lol

My house hold brings in over 100k a year and we still had to debate even getting the 34 420 which I got for 1200 bucks. I know the picture on the xbr is supposed to be better but it is not worth getting it for the very small difference in price and it would have cost me 800 dollars more. Ieven when I made 30k a year I only bought a 27 flat sylvania for 240 buck which is now in my bedroom. By the way that sylvania has been a great tv.

jmccorm
05-03-2005, 07:45 PM
Life is too short not to enjoy the things that make you happy.Having the BEST hdtv makes me happy.That is why I plan to buy my XBR960 Sony HDTV sooner than I thought-probably by early May if possible.Thankyou for helping me make up my mind. :yippee:

Aren't prices expected to drop around June-ish?

Right now, if someone was deciding between buying an HDTV or not buying one, I think I'd steer them in the NOT direction. So many problems for my locals + 4 channels in high definition. Now I have to worry about things like, "Is this DVR HDTV compatible?" "Why can't I receive ___x___ local channel over cable in high def and have to buy an an antenna to view it, which won't work with my DVR?" "Why do standard definition look even crappier?" "Where is that SCREEN MODE button?" Generally, I feel more trapped by my HDTV than anything.

But I'd still buy it again. I just wouldn't recommend it to others.

gwhoughton
05-05-2005, 12:52 PM
That poster has put up the same message in several forums... he's probably a 'shill' for the store... their prices are okay, only 10% off list... much better prices elsewhere.

Hey Mr Wizard...

You may be a big time poster here, or even affiliated with this site, but don't call me names or imply something about me. You don't know me.

I don't work for that site or any other website. I simply saw a discount when others had mentioned that they had not seen any available, so I posted a link.

RSawdey
05-05-2005, 03:23 PM
Most forum sites get a certain amount of these multiple cross postings of commercial info, it's usually ignored as noise, when it's not banned outright as commercially competative with the site's owners...

Posting once in appropriate area is info, multiple cross posts is someone looking for free advertising...

You're right I don't know you... I should have said "this is shill-like behavior"...

flintstoner
05-05-2005, 08:58 PM
I bought a nice 27 inch with s-video, 2 composite, coax, and component jacks for under $180. I have my ps2 hooked up to component and my other systems hooked up to everything else. Its got a good picture but im thinkin about gettin a HD next year. I have all the cords I need if I want to. Just want to know if im going to get a huge difference between picture quality to make it worth it. Also would like to know if DVI or HDMI is better than component, and the difference of Hi Def and superior def. Im just tryin to get as much info before I buy. thanks.

ja2935
05-05-2005, 09:42 PM
What are you principally going to watch? To get the same picture size at 4:3 you will need a 34" 16:9; but you would then be able to stretch it to fill the screen so it looks much bigger. DVDs will not look much sharper just bigger (which is why I too switched from a 27" 4:3 to a 34" 16:9). HD on an HD tv is superb but regular digital broadcasts, even at 480p the same as DVDs, are so much better than the best SD tv because the picture is much cleaner - however people have mixed results when watching SD on HD sets. If you go for a CRT based direct view or rear projection, HDMI or DVI will not give you any significant improvement over component cables.

flintstoner
05-06-2005, 07:53 PM
I will mainly be watching DVD's and playing videogames in progessive scan. I will most likely be getting a HDTV provider to go with it. But you answered all I need to know. Thanks.

ja2935
05-06-2005, 08:19 PM
For DVDs a widescreen is definitely worth getting - especially one that displays in 1080i - you'll be watching your whole collection over again!

RSawdey
05-07-2005, 11:42 PM
He said he wants to play videogames in progressive scan (720p) so he doesn't want a 1080i set - it's INTERLACED.

Cyberman
05-08-2005, 03:39 AM
So a native 1080i/480p crt set can't produce a 720p picture?

SkywalkerG
05-08-2005, 11:26 AM
All i know is i raped myself with the XS955. No interest till 2007.. but i just wanna pay it off in two months.. so i flippin am real tight this and next month.

Well it seems your going to go through with it, i'd say... did you ever consider ebaying or selling your 420 BEFORE buying the XBR.. that'll give you a good chunk of money to put as literally your first monthly payment. Assuming you can be responsible with it.

RSawdey
05-08-2005, 12:04 PM
So a native 1080i/480p crt set can't produce a 720p picture?

No, it can't... although it may accept the signal format & format convert it. The electronics just aren't fast enough.

On the other hand, a 720p display can't produce 1080i (or any interlaced res), and format converts THEM for display at 720p.

The same is true for the latest 1080p displays... or virtually all digital TVs... they produce one 'native' res & format convert everything to it. How well the conversion goes depends on the source & destination formats & quality of the upconversion techniques...

flintstoner
05-08-2005, 08:21 PM
Can a ps2 run in 1080i? I dont think it can but I was thinkin about getting a dvd player to run in 1080i or 1080p, depending on what tv I get that supports it.

RSawdey
05-09-2005, 05:59 AM
So called upconverting DVD players are mostly a waste of money... there's only 480 lines on the disk, you don't invent detail out of thin air. Better to save your money for HD-DVD in the fall...

ja2935
05-09-2005, 04:57 PM
No, it can't... although it may accept the signal format & format convert it. The electronics just aren't fast enough.

On the other hand, a 720p display can't produce 1080i (or any interlaced res), and format converts THEM for display at 720p.

The same is true for the latest 1080p displays... or virtually all digital TVs... they produce one 'native' res & format convert everything to it. How well the conversion goes depends on the source & destination formats & quality of the upconversion techniques...
My Toshiba 34hf84 has the option to display a 480p at 540p or 1080i.

RSawdey
05-10-2005, 08:08 AM
540p is really the same resolution as 1080i... it's just the same data is put into both odd & even lines so it appears as progressive. 540p is probably the better res to display 480p signals.

But more of an issue is the handling of 720p...