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best hdmi cable

fuj357racing
01-06-2008, 05:50 PM
is there a better one. i've been on monoprice lookin at the $10 6 footers. i currently have the stock 1.2 xbox elite cable hooked up and feel it might be lacking. i know the data transfer rate is doubled but anything else?

m_vanmeter
01-07-2008, 07:28 AM
"zero's and one's" - it's a digital signal, it's either getting through and being properly decoded, or it not. Monoprice cables are excellent, don't let the hype surrounding "snake oil cables" confuse the issue.

Loves2Watch
01-07-2008, 07:47 AM
"zero's and one's" - it's a digital signal, it's either getting through and being properly decoded, or it not. Monoprice cables are excellent, don't let the hype surrounding "snake oil cables" confuse the issue.

Agreed!

Mikekoz13
01-07-2008, 08:04 AM
Agreed!

Me Too!!!

Mike:cool:

stchman
01-07-2008, 04:02 PM
is there a better one. i've been on monoprice lookin at the $10 6 footers. i currently have the stock 1.2 xbox elite cable hooked up and feel it might be lacking. i know the data transfer rate is doubled but anything else?


I bought a bunch of HDMI cable off ebay for cheap. They work just fine. Monoprice.com is less expensive. Don't let someone tell you that you need to spend $100 on an HDMI cable.

Ratdaddyo8
01-10-2008, 09:07 PM
Correct--- monoprice.com is a good source My brother in law just bought a Monster cable 179.00 because the salesman said if the cables change in capacity 1.3to 1.6to 1.8 etc they will replace it free . Trust me he is a salesman's dream customer . I have a 50ft HDMI with ferrits 99.00 bucks

iluvbargains
01-12-2008, 01:23 PM
You definitely do not need to spend a ton of money on HDMI cables. They are way overpriced for the ones at retail stores. I've found Amazon to be a good place purchase the cables. They actually have one selling for under $7 including shipping. Just go to Amazon and search for B0012K63IU.

rav4man
01-15-2008, 10:42 PM
i don't know, i had an cheap hdmi cable and the picture on my samsung HL-T5689S was terrible, i swapped out the cable for a new hdmi 1.3a rated cable and it is great!

Bleedgreen71
01-15-2008, 10:50 PM
i don't know, i had an cheap hdmi cable and the picture on my samsung HL-T5689S was terrible, i swapped out the cable for a new hdmi 1.3a rated cable and it is great!

My parents use the free one that comcast of philly provided. looks great. I use a Phillips brand super duper one I paid $70 for 6 ft like an idiot on my HD-DVD player and it looks about the same as theirs. I don't see alot of value in going high end on hdmi. component cables yes, but not hdmi.

Scottnot
01-16-2008, 08:30 AM
For hook-up, 3', 6', 12', whether HDMI or component, there is no need to pay more.
The monoprice (or similar) are more than "up to the task" and you will see no difference between their products or the expensive brands.
Except for cosmetic differences, they are all the same and all work the same.

jcavanaugh
01-18-2008, 03:07 PM
Not all cables are created equal..... beware of the "Tin-Plated Copper". By all means I am not say you should spend a small fortune on any cable but, it is nice to have the peace of mind knowing your cable is actually made out of pure copper. ;)

m_vanmeter
01-18-2008, 04:23 PM
tin plateing copper conductors is a technique used for a very long time to minimize copper corrosion. The solder used to connect all conductors contains over 50% tin, so I'm unsure why you would make the statement ......beware of the "Tin-Plated Copper"....... Audio and video cables with tin-plated copper strands still have gold plated connectors. There may be a slight drop in conductivity over a long cable run due to the tin, but it would be much less than the drop due to any possible copper oxide corrosion in the wire strands.

tipstir
01-18-2008, 06:35 PM
My parents use the free one that comcast of philly provided. looks great. I use a Phillips brand super duper one I paid $70 for 6 ft like an idiot on my HD-DVD player and it looks about the same as theirs. I don't see alot of value in going high end on hdmi. component cables yes, but not hdmi.

Which one?

PTX1000 Pro
Ultra 24K

edders
01-18-2008, 07:28 PM
Not all cables are created equal..... beware of the "Tin-Plated Copper". By all means I am not say you should spend a small fortune on any cable but, it is nice to have the peace of mind knowing your cable is actually made out of pure copper. ;)

I repeat for emphasis, HUH?

truedamen
01-19-2008, 01:33 AM
Not all cables are created equal..... beware of the "Tin-Plated Copper". By all means I am not say you should spend a small fortune on any cable but, it is nice to have the peace of mind knowing your cable is actually made out of pure copper. ;)
The differences between various HDMI cables are outer coverings and marketing. I have installed HTS's using monoprice cables of various AWG and the results have been fantastic. I use tendon cables and on all of my sets and and I could not be happier.
The choice of cables falls on the indivual. Noone can deny that [email protected]#$*ER make very good cables; they are just extremely overpriced! And at lengths less than 15 feet almost any cable can do the job ( notice the words "almost" and "can").
The best advice I give people is do not waste your money on expensive cables. For the "misinformed" who think " I just spent 3000.00 dollars on the best TV that I can afford I WILL NOT SCIMP ON CABLES" than KO your wallet! If not take the advice of the knowledgeable individuals at this site and save some cash.

SavoR
01-19-2008, 04:19 AM
Correct--- monoprice.com is a good source My brother in law just bought a Monster cable 179.00 because the salesman said if the cables change in capacity 1.3to 1.6to 1.8 etc they will replace it free . Trust me he is a salesman's dream customer . I have a 50ft HDMI with ferrits 99.00 bucks

Getting an HDMI cable that's over 10ft is a huge waste of money, the quality degrades insanely fast in HDMI cable over distance.. keep the cables short :P

Scottnot
01-19-2008, 11:50 AM
Getting an HDMI cable that's over 10ft is a huge waste of money, the quality degrades insanely fast in HDMI cable over distance.. keep the cables short :P
ummmm . . . and if the source is . . . oh, let's say . . . 11 ft from the TV; then what?

Certainly not a good idea to use cables any longer than necessary (HDMI or otherwise, but certainly with HDMI).

I wouldn't say that the "quality degrades insanely fast", but rather that the signal quality degrades with increased length of cable, and that it does not "fade" (or gracefully degrade) as an analog signal will, but rather exhibits an almost catostrophic failure at some distance depending on the signal and the (signal carrying) "quality" of the cable.
Example #1: a given HDMI cable will be able to successfully carry a 720p signal over a greater distance than it can carry a 1080p signal due to the BER of the cable and the equipment.
Example #2: the single most important measure of the signal carrying quality of a HDMI cable is the wire gauge used to manufacture the cable. Consider two otherwise identical HDMI cables; one manufactured using 28 awg wire and the other using 22 awg wire. The 22 awg cable will be able to carry any given signal much farther than the 28 awg cable solely due to the fact that it has much less attenuation than the 22 awg cable.

For hook-up, that is 1.5', 3', 6', even 10/12' you are probably safe to use the more flexible and less expensive 28 awg cables.

For longer runs over 15' it is wise to consider selecting a higher "quality" (read larger wire gauge) cable of 24 or even 22 awg particularly if you will be sending 1080p signals.

For runs over 50', you may need to use a repeater to keep the signal level high enough to avoid signal failure.

fmw
01-19-2008, 02:10 PM
The best HDMI cable is the one that works. Those that don't work are bad.

truedamen
01-19-2008, 09:25 PM
ummmm . . . and if the source is . . . oh, let's say . . . 11 ft from the TV; then what?

Certainly not a good idea to use cables any longer than necessary (HDMI or otherwise, but certainly with HDMI).

I wouldn't say that the "quality degrades insanely fast", but rather that the signal quality degrades with increased length of cable, and that it does not "fade" (or gracefully degrade) as an analog signal will, but rather exhibits an almost catostrophic failure at some distance depending on the signal and the (signal carrying) "quality" of the cable.
Example #1: a given HDMI cable will be able to successfully carry a 720p signal over a greater distance than it can carry a 1080p signal due to the BER of the cable and the equipment.
Example #2: the single most important measure of the signal carrying quality of a HDMI cable is the wire gauge used to manufacture the cable. Consider two otherwise identical HDMI cables; one manufactured using 28 awg wire and the other using 22 awg wire. The 22 awg cable will be able to carry any given signal much farther than the 28 awg cable solely due to the fact that it has much less attenuation than the 22 awg cable.

For hook-up, that is 1.5', 3', 6', even 10/12' you are probably safe to use the more flexible and less expensive 28 awg cables.

For longer runs over 15' it is wise to consider selecting a higher "quality" (read larger wire gauge) cable of 24 or even 22 awg particularly if you will be sending 1080p signals.

For runs over 50', you may need to use a repeater to keep the signal level high enough to avoid signal failure.

And some HDMI cables of 50' or longer use an in line equalizer to enhance signal quality.