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Can HD-DVD really survive much longer ?

HDisGoodMan
12-28-2007, 07:54 PM
First of all, let me say that I don't care who wins, I just want one format (like everyone). Lately I'm getting a bad feeling about HD-DVD being able to survive. There is only Toshiba (bravely going it alone) making standalone players. Where are the other manufacturers ? With Toshiba's players selling so cheaply, maybe other companies can't see any way to turn a profit making standalone players ? This worries me ! Also, Blu-Ray players are getting much cheaper now also, will all be profile 1.1 very soon, and have many companies making players.

Does anyone know if Toshiba is losing money ? I just wonder how long they can fight the good fight alone !

Bleedgreen71
12-28-2007, 07:59 PM
Some times you need to spend money to make money. They still get paid when a DVD gets pressed. And when/if HD-DVD wins they will get paid when they all get pressed. If the Majority of Blu-Ray players on the market (lets call it 65%) are PS3 and sony has been selling them below cost or atleast initially, can't you make the same arguement?

I would argue that if anything, the recent success of Stand-Alone Hd-DVD player sales will bring tons of movie sales and things should even out. 2008 will be very interesting.

e30cabrio
12-28-2007, 08:28 PM
I have both. An A30 and a Sharp BD20. I really don't care which wins!

mshulman
12-28-2007, 10:22 PM
Toshiba has the right idea in mind. Get the players out there.

The ONLY reason blu-ray is where it is is simply because of the PS3. Just look at past sales history of consoles. PS3 is pretty close to selling on par with what the 360 did.

Game consoles also differ from other devices, such as DVD players and the like. Game consoles tend to sell at a fairly consistent rate - not growing.

HD DVD and Blu-ray players need to continually grow in sales. HD DVD is doing this. Blu-ray doesn't seem to be - they just seem to be selling because of the PS3. Over time, this will greatly favor HD DVD.

Bravestime
12-28-2007, 10:38 PM
Toshiba has the right idea in mind. Get the players out there.

The ONLY reason blu-ray is where it is is simply because of the PS3. Just look at past sales history of consoles. PS3 is pretty close to selling on par with what the 360 did.

Game consoles also differ from other devices, such as DVD players and the like. Game consoles tend to sell at a fairly consistent rate - not growing.

HD DVD and Blu-ray players need to continually grow in sales. HD DVD is doing this. Blu-ray doesn't seem to be - they just seem to be selling because of the PS3. Over time, this will greatly favor HD DVD.


Actually, Blu-ray SAL players are starting to take off as well due to the lower prices. Check out Amazon's best selling dvd players.

It is a good point about HD-DVD players priced so cheap it's hard to entice any other company to make a HD-DVD and compete. Just hope Toshiba doesn't take advantage of this situation and start cutting quality to turn more profit. No telling what companies may do to win a war. :what: