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Thinner CRT? Samsung SlimFit

gollum
03-08-2005, 09:38 PM
measures less than 16" from front to back! Typical CRT sets on the market today average more than 24" in depth.
http://news.designtechnica.com/images/news/samsung/TXR3079WHII.jpg

And here is the link (http://news.designtechnica.com/article6663.html)

joe_danger
03-09-2005, 08:38 AM
A little pricey, $1,199 for a 30" WS, but it addresses the biggest complaint about CRT sets. I'm curious how much it weighs, the second biggest complaint about CRTs.

Emulates the appearence a flat panel set, with a built in HD tuner. Should sell very well.

Beastslayer1
03-09-2005, 09:26 AM
Hm...and apparently LG. Philips is also looking into it as well: http://homeentertainment.engadget.com/entry/1234000180020920/

BigEasyHD
03-09-2005, 07:35 PM
Damn thats beautiful! I am almost set on purchasing a Sammy 3075...I wonder if I should wait till June an snag this puppy for 200 more. But then again they may issue a price break on the 3075's once this one comes out. Any thoughts??

BigEasyHD
03-09-2005, 07:47 PM
here's some verbage from the Samsung site:

SAMSUNG Says, “Slim Is In!” With Launch Of Award-Winning SlimFit™ TV

Priced Affordably Like A CRT, But Less Than 16” Deep, The TXR3079WH Integrated 30” Cathode Ray Panel TV Creates a New Category in the HDTV Market



Las Vegas, NV - Samsung Electronics, the global Visual Display and HDTV innovator, is revolutionizing the marketplace once again with the launch of its groundbreaking SlimFit TV featuring Samsung's new space-saving CRP (Cathode Ray Panel) technology. Already a CES 2005 Innovations Honoree, the new TXR3079WH is a 30" widescreen, integrated HDTV that measures less than 16" from front to back! Typical CRT sets on the market today average more than 24" in depth.
In addition to the ultra-trim profile, the SlimFit TV's CRP Flat Picture Tube enables the improved brightness, contrast and more natural color associated with CRT technology. With the debut of the TXR3079WH, Samsung, already a market share leader in the vibrant CRT category, is creating a new category in the flat TV market - one that represents an ideal compromise between affordable price and coveted form factor. The new SlimFit TXR3079WH can be seen at CES 2005 in the Samsung booth, #11024 in the Central Hall of the Las Vegas Convention Center from January 6th - 9th.

While consumers clearly embrace the idea of slimmer televisions such as flat-panel TVs, the hefty price on larger screen sizes has so far been an obstacle for mainstream acceptance. As a result, the affordability and outstanding picture-quality found on traditional CRT TVs has helped sustain demand for that TV category. In fact, while the demand for flat-panel TVs has recently risen, chipping slowly at CRT market share, the Consumer Electronics Association estimates there is still more than a 20 million-unit market for picture tube televisions. The research and development team at Samsung has kept these consumers in mind with the production of the new TXR3079WH. Priced at only a modest premium over traditional HD tube sets, the new SlimFit TV is the ultimate blend of flat TV value, functionality and style.

"Samsung believes the new SlimFit television will play a significant role in revitalizing the CRT business and will carve a place for a new category that matches the affordability and image equality of CRT TV with the "slim is in" benefits of flat-panel TV," said Jonas Tanenbaum, Sr. Marketing Manager for Samsung Electronics America's Visual Display Group. "Conventional CRT (Cathode Ray Tube) sets have been around for decades and although they've become flatter over the years, they have always had a bulky quality and significant depth associated with them. Samsung's innovative engineering team recently made a technology breakthrough that allowed existing CRT factory production lines, with some modification, to produce a new generation of Slim Depth Cathode Ray Panels (CRP) that measure 2/3 the depth of conventional CRT models. In the coming months and years, Samsung will launch additional SlimFit screen sizes and models, which all feature this new CRP technology. The result for consumers is a -slim HDTV at a fraction of the cost of other flat-panel technologies."

With the Samsung TXR3079W, consumers can look forward to the superior picture quality and smooth action they have come to expect from traditional direct view sets. The new SlimFit HDTV attains incredible color and brightness. Its nano-pigment screen design enables an amazing 5000:1 contrast ratio, color reproduction that measures in at 100%, and an 800-candela brightness. All of these performance advantages are wrapped in its ultra-thin, sleekly designed cabinet that fits on just about any tabletop, cabinet or corner of the room.

Another compelling benefit of the TXR3079W is its built-in HDTV tuner, which works with an antenna to receive free, over-the-air broadcasts of HDTV. It has the ability to accept digital signals from both 720p and 1080i sources, displaying them in 1080i and delivers a crystal-clear progressive scan picture from any analog source. It comes with a Dolby Digital Dynamic Sound System that includes a 20-watt stereo with a multi band adjustable equalizer to complement the experience.

For film buffs, the TXR3079W also incorporates progressive scan DVD (480p) compatibility and Samsung's 3:2 Pull Down process that corrects the flaws inherent in film to video transfers. Samsung's exclusive Digital Natural Image Engine (DNIe) picture enhancement technology is also included to provide even better contrast, motion, detail and color. The TX-R3079W is scheduled to launch in June 2005 at an MSRP of $1,199.

Beastslayer1
03-09-2005, 08:31 PM
If Samsung only made a 34 inch version...then that would be dead sexy!!! However, I'm sure they will...next year or two...

rickbbb
03-19-2005, 11:13 AM
:confused: Are Samsungs a better brand or equal brand to Sony's these days..in regards to High definition?

RSawdey
03-19-2005, 12:06 PM
Depends on the model line... I'd give LCD RPTVs to Sony, DLP RPTVs to Samsung... both make both types.

meh130
03-19-2005, 03:01 PM
My Sammy 3075 is about 22" deep.

Sammy and Panasonic CRT HDTVs are the same, and Panasonic has a 34" model. I don't know why the Samsung brand does not carry a 34" model.

So if there is not a Sammy 34" thin CRT, perhaps there will be a Panasonic one.

I think these new thin CRT technologies will dominate 26" to 34" screen sizes. Above that, I expect LCD/DLP/LCOS rear projection microdisplays to dominate. I am extremely impressed with the Sony 42" LCD rear projection model. It looks better than any 42" LCD or plasma display. It is brighter brights, darker blacks, and has no visible pixels or lines up close.

CRT rear displays are dead. They are cheap, but they look like crap beside the newer LCD/DLP/LCOS models. I expect 720p LCD/DLP/LCOS microdisplays to become the entry rear projection models once 1080p LCD/DLP/LCOS models come out.

Big plasma and LCD panels are nice, but expensive. LCD/DLP/LCOS microdisplays are 1/3 to 1/4 of the price. With thin CRTs and LCD/DLP/LCOS microdisplays all being less than 18 inches deep, they do not take up much space, in fact the take up less space than current 27" conventional TVs.

meh130
03-19-2005, 03:08 PM
Damn thats beautiful! I am almost set on purchasing a Sammy 3075...I wonder if I should wait till June an snag this puppy for 200 more. But then again they may issue a price break on the 3075's once this one comes out. Any thoughts??

This one looks cooler, but you really only save six to eight inches of depth.

You are right you should be able to save some money on the 3075 once the thin CRT comes out. However, I would shop around and see you can save money now on the 3075. It is already a discontinued model, replaced by the 3076, which has a few more features.

You should be able to find the 3075 for around $800 if you are willing to buy it over the internet. However, there are drawbacks regarding returns when you buy a large TV via mail order.

Assuming, based on your handle, you are in New Orleans, you should be able to shop around several large electronics chains.

BigEasyHD
03-20-2005, 07:17 PM
I got the 3075 for 949 @ sears.com, delivered to a local store for pickup. I am really enjoying the free OTA HD broadcast! :)

Agent Zero
03-21-2005, 06:46 PM
This one looks cooler, but you really only save six to eight inches of depth.

You are right you should be able to save some money on the 3075 once the thin CRT comes out. However, I would shop around and see you can save money now on the 3075. It is already a discontinued model, replaced by the 3076, which has a few more features.

You should be able to find the 3075 for around $800 if you are willing to buy it over the internet. However, there are drawbacks regarding returns when you buy a large TV via mail order.

Assuming, based on your handle, you are in New Orleans, you should be able to shop around several large electronics chains.


Yeah, I really like the looks of this 3079. Unfortunately, I just got the 3075 a few days ago. I bought it from ABT Electronics online for $877 with free shipping. I don't know if it's worth returning and waiting for the thinner 3079 though. But since I won't be missing any Stanley Cup Playoffs in HD, I might have to think about putting my HDTV on a diet!

hdtv4me2
03-22-2005, 02:36 PM
Depends on the model line... I'd give LCD RPTVs to Sony, DLP RPTVs to Samsung... both make both types.

I don't believe Sony makes a DLP, if that's what you are saying.

kturcotte
03-22-2005, 04:53 PM
Any chance or idea when a 1080p version of these might show up?

RSawdey
03-22-2005, 10:18 PM
Midyear...