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Another "Which LCD to Buy" thread

BPop
11-23-2007, 02:42 PM
I've been tasked with finding the right 42-46 inch TV for around $1k.

In the thread: "Which LCD to buy" STerasedU asked which of these three are better:

LCD1) HP 42" 1080p LCD HDTV (LC4276N) 8483704 - Reg.Price $1,499.99 Sale Price $996.99 OR

2) Polaroid 42" LCD HDTV 1080p 1200:1 Contrast Ratio 2HDMI, 2 Component, PC, S-Video, 2 AV Inputs - Price$798.00 OR

3) Sharp Aquos 46" 1080p LCD HDTV Reg. Price $2,499.99Sale Price $1,299.99


So it seemed that the Sharp is the choice among those three, judging by the bulk of the useful responses. Yesterday is the first day I'd really noticed that HP is a TV company now too. Anything good or bad to say about the above HP TV? I stopped by Best Buy this morning to look at it but none were on display.

Deleting #2 above and extending the list, how 'bout these:

4. Visio VU42LF, $1,099 at Costco.
5. Philips 42PFL74422D/37, $1,299 at Costco
6. Sony KDL40W3000 or KDL46S3000, both $1,399 at Sears
7. Sylvania LC420ss8, $1199 at Sears by now.

Seems a little difficult comparing sets at different stores as they don't seem to have the exact same model. i.e. Best Buy has the Sony KDL-40S3000 ($1,499), while Sears has the Sony KDL-40W3000 ($1399). Of course, not having internet access in my pocket doesn't help either.

Thanks.

tipstir
11-23-2007, 02:51 PM
I've been tasked with finding the right 42-46 inch TV for around $1k.

In the thread: "Which LCD to buy" STerasedU asked which of these three are better:

LCD1) HP 42" 1080p LCD HDTV (LC4276N) 8483704 - Reg.Price $1,499.99 Sale Price $996.99 OR

2) Polaroid 42" LCD HDTV 1080p 1200:1 Contrast Ratio 2HDMI, 2 Component, PC, S-Video, 2 AV Inputs - Price$798.00 OR

3) Sharp Aquos 46" 1080p LCD HDTV Reg. Price $2,499.99Sale Price $1,299.99


So it seemed that the Sharp is the choice among those three, judging by the bulk of the useful responses. Yesterday is the first day I'd really noticed that HP is a TV company now too. Anything good or bad to say about the above HP TV? I stopped by Best Buy this morning to look at it but none were on display.

Deleting #2 above and extending the list, how 'bout these:

4. Visio VU42LF, $1,099 at Costco.
5. Philips 42PFL74422D/37, $1,299 at Costco
6. Sony KDL40W3000 or KDL46S3000, both $1,399 at Sears
7. Sylvania LC420ss8, $1199 at Sears by now.

Seems a little difficult comparing sets at different stores as they don't seem to have the exact same model. i.e. Best Buy has the Sony KDL-40S3000 ($1,499), while Sears has the Sony KDL-40W3000 ($1399). Of course, not having internet access in my pocket doesn't help either.

Thanks.

7. Is a good brand but not at that price is should be lower like $699 to $799. Sylvania..

I just picked today a Element (PROVIEW) brand not bad for the kitchen 19" HDTV for $199 they had the 32" for $399 I won't get a 32" too small. If you wait most of they deals will return again as sells are bad this end of the year so watch the prices drop again before Christmas. Element makes 32 and 37" max..

Loves2Watch
11-23-2007, 03:10 PM
The Sharp Aquos is the best bargain of the bunch and is a great TV. Next would be the Vizio.

Toucan
11-23-2007, 05:53 PM
I'm looking at # 4 & 5 on your list...

The sharp is intriguing, but again, its requiring more investigation...

Fun, isn't it Brian...

BPop
11-23-2007, 06:37 PM
I'm looking at # 4 & 5 on your list...

The sharp is intriguing, but again, its requiring more investigation...

Fun, isn't it Brian...

Yes, 'tis. Thanks for the tip about this place.

Need to figure out which Sharp he was looking at. Still no one has spoken up for or against the HP. Too bad Best Buy didn't have one on display to compare against the rest of the crowd.

Codes20
11-23-2007, 06:43 PM
Yes, 'tis. Thanks for the tip about this place.

Need to figure out which Sharp he was looking at. Still no one has spoken up for or against the HP. Too bad Best Buy didn't have one on display to compare against the rest of the crowd.

The HP is decent, but that Samsung 40" (LNT-4066F) that was $1149.99 is a far better TV in my opinion.

The Sharp is the safest bet and the best deal ($900 off).

360kid
11-23-2007, 07:15 PM
I noticed all of the LCDs you are debating are 1080p, the first two are bargain sets and the Sharp is the only top tier brand.

1080p, while greatly desirable, is not the end all be all. In my opinion, it is better to go with a QUALITY BRAND and MODEL over just any old 1080p. In other words, I would rather have a Samsung 720p LCD over a Poloroid 1080p any day of the week. Just because a paricular tv from one brand in 1080p does not make it better than a 720p from another brand.

Also, do not be decieved by the 1080p hype you get from Best Buy employees. I just bought another tv, the first thing they say is you better get full 1080p HD otherwise you are missing out. That is a lie. Also, BB has the habit of placing a single 720p television in a line of 1080p sets, and then putting HD to every set except the 720p. They purposly try to make the 720p sets look as bad as possible so your eyes are naturally drawn to the more expensive 1080p model (bigger commission for them). I have caught them doing this. I was looking at a 720p LCD that I knew is an awesome set, just wondering why it looks so shitty and the 1080p next to it looks sooo good. Well, I peeked behind the tvs, the 1080p had component HD cables hooked to it, the 720p had only standard AV's hooked to it.

Under normal circumstances, these tv's would have been comparable, but BB was sand bagging all of the 720p sets so that people would think the more expensive 1080p's are that much better.

Long story short, buy a quality LCD first, then worry about resolution. Of the 3 LCDs you mentioned, Sharp is the only one that is truly high quality. Not that the others are bad, just not at the level of a sharp.

Codes20
11-23-2007, 07:20 PM
I noticed all of the LCDs you are debating are 1080p, the first two are bargain sets and the Sharp is the only top tier brand.

1080p, while greatly desirable, is not the end all be all. In my opinion, it is better to go with a QUALITY BRAND and MODEL over just any old 1080p. In other words, I would rather have a Samsung 720p LCD over a Poloroid 1080p any day of the week. Just because a paricular tv from one brand in 1080p does not make it better than a 720p from another brand.

Also, do not be decieved by the 1080p hype you get from Best Buy employees. I just bought another tv, the first thing they say is you better get full 1080p HD otherwise you are missing out. That is a lie. Also, BB has the habit of placing a single 720p television in a line of 1080p sets, and then putting HD to every set except the 720p. They purposly try to make the 720p sets look as bad as possible so your eyes are naturally drawn to the more expensive 1080p model (bigger commission for them). I have caught them doing this. I was looking at a 720p LCD that I knew is an awesome set, just wondering why it looks so shitty and the 1080p next to it looks sooo good. Well, I peeked behind the tvs, the 1080p had component HD cables hooked to it, the 720p had only standard AV's hooked to it.

Under normal circumstances, these tv's would have been comparable, but BB was sand bagging all of the 720p sets so that people would think the more expensive 1080p's are that much better.

Long story short, buy a quality LCD first, then worry about resolution. Of the 3 LCDs you mentioned, Sharp is the only one that is truly high quality. Not that the others are bad, just not at the level of a sharp.

What you are saying about BB is not true in my store. Just letting you know.

360kid
11-23-2007, 07:27 PM
What you are saying about BB is not true in my store. Just letting you know.


New York, I've seen it more than once, they are currently doing it!!! I was there this past week.

I just bought a 50" two days ago, the first thing they said to me while I was browsing was, "you'll never get FULL HD with this tv, you need to get 1080p to get TRUE HIGH DEFINITION." The only 720p set that was on HD was the Insignia. Every other was using AV connections. I couldn't find two 720p's side by side, every 720p set was between two 1080ps and the 720ps were sand bagged.

I'm not saying this is every BB, but it surely happens at the one where I live.

BPop
11-23-2007, 08:00 PM
The HP is decent, but that Samsung 40" (LNT-4066F) that was $1149.99 is a far better TV in my opinion.

The Sharp is the safest bet and the best deal ($900 off).

Ok. But which Sharp is that?

LC-42D43U
LC-42D64U
LC-42D62U ($1,199 after $300 off at Costco)
LC-42D72U
LC-42D92U

As Toucan said, more investigation is required.

Thanks.

Codes20
11-23-2007, 08:18 PM
Ok. But which Sharp is that?

LC-42D43U
LC-42D64U
LC-42D62U ($1,199 after $300 off at Costco)
LC-42D72U
LC-42D92U

As Toucan said, more investigation is required.

Thanks.

Sharp 46", LC-46D64U. This is at Best Buy. We sold a ton of these today.

BPop
11-24-2007, 12:27 PM
Sharp 46", LC-46D64U. This is at Best Buy. We sold a ton of these today.

I know this may be an obvious question, but is the ton because of a good price or being a great set?

I see $1,299 online, which undercuts Sears by $500 (but they'll price match +10%) and Costco by $200.

I'll have to look and see if Sears will price match based on online pricing or a print ad only (no CC here).

Any reason not to get the LC46D64U?

Current viewing room is 8' from screen to seat. Is the LC42D64U a better choice.

This will be replacing a 15 yr. old RCA 19" CRT set.

If we get the LC42 or the LC46, anything we should get as well? Are there included cables, and are they good or should we pop for something better?

Thanks.

DodgerKing
11-24-2007, 12:50 PM
Yes, 'tis. Thanks for the tip about this place.

Need to figure out which Sharp he was looking at. Still no one has spoken up for or against the HP. Too bad Best Buy didn't have one on display to compare against the rest of the crowd.

Sharps can be great or awful, depending on the model. Some models of Sharps are among the best LCD's on the market, while others aren't even worth a few bucks. From what I read, the LC-42D72U is a very good TV with excellent PQ...

Scottnot
11-24-2007, 01:37 PM
I'm not saying this is every BB, but it surely happens at the one where I live.
Ain't it the truth. I guess it's different in different parts of the country; for example there is a BB where your Sales Associate is quite likely to advise:

"I assume the kid wasn't crazy into technological speak in that 1080i to him is HD and is the same as 720p, even though his set is natively progressive. Hitachi makes the only 1080i sets available. When I speak to people who have no idea what 1080i and 720p are, I say they are essentially the same resolution, one is interlaced and one is progressive. Then go on to explain the i/p difference. I don't want to go over consumer's heads so it must be dumbed down a bit.

This region is not up to date with technical knowledge and information, save for the occasional few."

Must be one helluva shopping experience.
Gotta love BB.

PFC5
11-24-2007, 03:41 PM
I compared the Vizio 47" 1080p LCD display right next to the Olevia 47" 1080p LCD display and the Olevia looked better after I tuned both by eye to see which is better at BJ's Wholesale Club.

Colors were better but the Vizio was slightly sharper, but artificially so it appeared to me. I bought the Olevia 247 model for $999.99 yesterday and will be returning the Sanyo 50" 720p plasma I bought for 998.00 at Walmart on the secret sale on 11/2/07.

tipstir
11-24-2007, 03:46 PM
I compared the Vizio 47" 1080p LCD display right next to the Olevia 47" 1080p LCD display and the Olevia looked better after I tuned both by eye to see which is better at BJ's Wholesale Club.

Colors were better but the Vizio was slightly sharper, but artificially so it appeared to me. I bought the Olevia 247 model for $999.99 yesterday and will be returning the Sanyo 50" 720p plasma I bought for 998.00 at Walmart on the secret sale on 11/2/07.

good luck on returning that to WM, I just tell them I've contacted Corporate.

PFC5
11-24-2007, 03:48 PM
good luck on returning that to WM, I just tell them I've contacted Corporate.

I have 90 days to return it but it has only been 3 weeks anyway. If they didn't take it back I would dispute it on my credit card. They WILL take it back.