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High Definition Locals

marshalldudley
10-24-2007, 11:05 AM
Does anyone have any inside information on their rollout dates for going HD in different local markets? I am interested in the Knoxville market. Their CSRs are less than useless for this type of information.

First call CSR tells me that I have to contact the stations and find out when they will be giving the HD feed to Direct. The stations are like, what? We are transmitting a megawatt, how much feed do they need?

Second CSR said that they are sending the locals in HD, and that the web page is wrong when it says that it is not available for our market. She had me reset the unit. When that did not work, she sent me to tech support, which again confirmed that they are sending high def for locals for Knoxville, and had me enter the zip code, and reinstall the receivers. She hung up, telling me that the process would take about 10 minutes, and when done I would have the locals in high def. Well, it didn't.

Forth CSR repeated that I should be getting locals in high def, and sent me back to tech support, which looked my zip code up again, and said the previous CSR's were all wrong, that they do NOT support high def locals for my zip code. But she also indicated that she has no idea or way of knowing when they will be adding them.

So I spent about 2 hours total on the phone, when they could have told me the truth in about 10 seconds. I am dreading if I ever have a REAL problem.

Thanks,

Marshall

mcbeevee
10-24-2007, 11:51 AM
If you want to know what HD Locals are available, the following chart is more accurate than going through the CSR's. I've also been (patiently) waiting for the Knoxville HD Locals to startup. Since the new satellite (Directv10) had problems with it's spot beams, we will probably have to wait until Directv11 is active sometime around Spring-2008. :(

http:///2znhvm

TomLewandowski
10-24-2007, 12:21 PM
Wow...it looks like D* has a lot of work to do yet. I never realized how few areas were receiving HD locals. Wonder why a puny area like Green Bay, WI is getting HD locals (for a while, too), while Rochester and Syracuse, New York are still only SD. Guess I should count my blessings. :angel

chirshey
10-24-2007, 01:38 PM
Wow...it looks like D* has a lot of work to do yet. I never realized how few areas were receiving HD locals. Wonder why a puny area like Green Bay, WI is getting HD locals (for a while, too), while Rochester and Syracuse, New York are still only SD. Guess I should count my blessings. :angel

The selection decision probably comes from a concensus vote from the CSR's @ D*. Those areas that display patience and a low call rate bugging the CSRs for "when" probably get served first. Makes sense to me.

buzd
10-24-2007, 01:43 PM
Wow...it looks like D* has a lot of work to do yet. I never realized how few areas were receiving HD locals. Wonder why a puny area like Green Bay, WI is getting HD locals (for a while, too), while Rochester and Syracuse, New York are still only SD. Guess I should count my blessings. :angel

NFL market.

laxdoc
01-03-2008, 10:47 AM
i just upgraded to hd. the tek tells me that D* will have knoxville locals in hd by feb 1st. i call D* and the csr says that knoxville isn't even on the list to get local hd.

I checked D*'s website to no avail. anyone with more knowledge of these decisions know which is acurate? if the tek is right, i will just wait out the dreadful viewing for a few more weeks. if the csr is right, then i need to scope out a suitable antenna as the locals here are almost unwatchable. thanks

mcbeevee
01-03-2008, 11:09 AM
i just upgraded to hd. the tek tells me that D* will have knoxville locals in hd by feb 1st. i call D* and the csr says that knoxville isn't even on the list to get local hd.
I checked D*'s website to no avail. anyone with more knowledge of these decisions know which is acurate? if the tek is right, i will just wait out the dreadful viewing for a few more weeks. if the csr is right, then i need to scope out a suitable antenna as the locals here are almost unwatchable. thanks
Unless Directv is secretly planning to roll out some HD locals, it will be June-2008 or later before Knoxville gets HD locals.

:)

marshalldudley
01-03-2008, 11:28 AM
I gave up on them and put an antenna on a 50 foot pushup about a month ago. I was able to get all the Knoxville digital locals except WMAK. Odd thing is that after two days of wind Dec. 31 - Jan 2, I have now lost WATE and Fox 43, and gained WMAK. Still trying to figure that one out, the antenna has not moved at all. :mad: I have to get Fox back before American Idol starts again.

Marshall

mcbeevee
01-03-2008, 02:08 PM
Odd thing is that after two days of wind Dec. 31 - Jan 2, I have now lost WATE and Fox 43, and gained WMAK. Still trying to figure that one out, the antenna has not moved at all. :mad:
I think something is going on with Fox 43's signal strength. My indoor Silver Sensor has been picking them up for over 3 years with no problems, but this week it can't get their signal. Thankfully, my attic antenna is still able to pull in their signal, so I can watch the NFL playoffs in HD.

:)

marshalldudley
01-03-2008, 03:29 PM
What about WATE 6.1? They are on the same tower, so I am wondering if the winds did something. WBIR is also on the same tower, but I am still getting it fine.

Thanks,

Marshall

PS. we should meet for lunch some time, I would like to meet you.

gracious
01-03-2008, 03:50 PM
We do not have HD locals in our area yet (Mobile, Pensacola) but my friend who has DTV swears with his rabbit ears hooked up to his tv, he is able to receive his locals in HD accept for the NBC local. Can that be true? I was told that our area was not slated to receive locals in HD and that DTV didn't know when we would get it.

marshalldudley
01-03-2008, 04:19 PM
Depends on how close you are to the towers, the power they are running, and if you have anything blocking or reflecting the signal. The two things that can kill you with rabbit ears are insufficient signal strength, due to distance, power, or interfering structures, hills, trees, and reflections which give ghosts. The first gives poor S/N ratio, so the tuner cannot lock, and the second either poor S/N ratio, or interfers with the signal so that once again the tuner cannot lock. A directional antenna can improve both of these.

Marshall

DtvRep07
01-03-2008, 05:07 PM
The ones coming soon (next two months) as far as I have seen are

Wilkes-Barre Scranton, PA (launched today)

Paducah, KY-Cape Girardeau, MO

Louisville, KY

Lincoln-Hastings, NE

Omaha, NE

Wichita, KS

I think there's 2 or three more missing, oh well.

mcbeevee
01-03-2008, 06:16 PM
What about WATE 6.1?
I had no problems with 6.1 wate. Fox 43 must have changed something today, because now my Silver Sensor is back to getting a 88% signal. :confused:

marshalldudley
01-03-2008, 07:22 PM
I had no problems with 6.1 wate. Fox 43 must have changed something today, because now my Silver Sensor is back to getting a 88% signal. :confused:

Yes, Fox 43 came back today late this afternoon and is as strong as ever. WATE has gone from dead to very weak for me. WMAK is still coming in, from no reception last year. I suspect a number of stations have made modifications the transmitters/antennas first of the year, which accounts for Fox 43 and WMAK. I am calling WATE tomorrow to try to get a handle on them.

Marshall