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Your TV does not support HDCP (Toshiba related)

joojah
02-24-2005, 07:58 PM
WTF?

Ok, I bought DVI-to-HDMI cables to hook up the Time Warner Cable box to the Toshiba 30HFX84, and it displays that message. Is it something I enable on the cable box, or TV, or ...?

Time Warner wanted $5 a month extra for their HDMI box because it's DVR also, so I cheaped out and ordered DVI-HDMI cable.

What does this mean? I can't use DVI outputs?

Madness! :confused: :eek: :(

HDCowboy
02-24-2005, 11:17 PM
:cool: If the devices are currently "on" turn "off" the STB first.... then Turn "off" the TV....

The following is the Toshiba recommended procedure for ensuring that HDCP compliant devices get reset properly and for ensuring that the proper handshake protocol occurs, in order to watch via HDMI.

Turn on the TV....
set the input to the applicable HDMI port...
wait a moment (on motorola STBs you can physically see the communication from tv to stb - message "DU1" will flash momentarilly on the display of the STB)
Turn on the STB

enjoy High Def the way it was meant....

joojah
02-25-2005, 07:49 AM
thanks, I new it was something stupid (like me:))

It works now, I still have to look for details to say for sure that it's better than component. From the 2 minutes this morning it seemed the same, but that might be my eyes before the coffee...

Will post comments later...

LazBunting
02-25-2005, 09:19 AM
thanks, I new it was something stupid (like me:))

It works now, I still have to look for details to say for sure that it's better than component. From the 2 minutes this morning it seemed the same, but that might be my eyes before the coffee...

Will post comments later...

I'm curious about whether there is any discernible difference, too. It might be that with a relatively small screen (34") the difference might be very, very slight. But if that's not true, I'd like to know!

Another question: if you are using a DVI output (which provides video only, right?) then what is your connection for sound through the TV?

joojah
02-25-2005, 09:45 AM
I'm curious about whether there is any discernible difference, too. It might be that with a relatively small screen (34") the difference might be very, very slight. But if that's not true, I'd like to know!

Yeah, I don't know, it's subjective. If the program is true HD (filmed in HD, like the Superbowl, sports and discovery channel docs) component was damn good. You see the difference when you watch an upconverted movie on HBOHD --it's not that good, still better than SD HBO. So, that's your real HD comparison. Cables are secondary, I guess.

Another question: if you are using a DVI output (which provides video only, right?) then what is your connection for sound through the TV?

Sound goes directly from Cable box to AV rcvr. Mine is regular red/white stereo sound, so it works fine.

george chicago
02-25-2005, 07:33 PM
Hi have the 30HF84 and switched to the hdmi input after using the component in.. there is definitely an improvement in detail and color resolution.. subtle in some cases but an improvement non-the-less.
I am using a DVI to HDMI cable connecting a Samsung T360 DTV receiver to the Toshiba... now if only they had a second hdmi input for my Toshiba V592 which upscales the DVD input to digital input resolution... oh well... time to save for the Gefen hdmi multiple input boxes... George / Chicago

HDCowboy
02-26-2005, 02:28 AM
now if only they had a second hdmi input for my Toshiba V592
34HFX84 came with two HDMI inputs... ;)

Sound goes directly from Cable box to AV rcvr. Mine is regular red/white stereo sound, so it works fine.
Check to see if you have a digital coax input available on that receiver JOOJAH, because if you do, you're missing out on a whole lot of sounds in digital... save the red and white rca's for STB to the TV set audio inputs that correspond with the HDMI input - for those days that you just want to watch TV without firing up the Amp. ;)

thanks, I new it was something stupid (like me)
Easy on yerself there friend... this stuff is new, sometimes complicated, and takes a lot of fine print reading... occasional trial and error sometimes too.... :D Glad it's working out.... :)

joojah
02-26-2005, 06:45 PM
Check to see if you have a digital coax input available on that receiver JOOJAH, because if you do, you're missing out on a whole lot of sounds in digital... save the red and white rca's for STB to the TV set audio inputs that correspond with the HDMI input - for those days that you just want to watch TV without firing up the Amp. ;)



I know I'm missing out on the digital sound. So far, I have been a stereo sound guy, (I love my B&W's), and was too lazy to switch back and forth. The only sound I cared about was the old Bowie and Jazz CDs. But, lately I'm thinking about going 5.1 so I'll definitely use the digital coax input.

RSawdey
02-28-2005, 06:00 PM
Analog stereo cables can't carry DD 5.1 or DTS, only ProLogic psuedosurround at best. You need the SPDIF.