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Poll for online gaming

Steve44
09-09-2007, 10:53 AM
I'm sure this has been hit up 5 or 6 hundred times but here you go again. I'm looking for an updated poll.
This poll has NOTHING to do with who is right or wrong. It is only a sample of the population of who prefers what.
Again, this does NOT have anything to do with who is right or wrong.

EddieDZ
09-09-2007, 11:17 AM
since im not a huge freak about online gaming i prefer free basic online service, then a "great" online experience and pay for it.. for someone else who dies for online gaming then the other option would fit best.

Type A
09-09-2007, 01:30 PM
I had to put "not sure" as I dont know what a free service is like, or its level of suckiness therein. What I do know is Ive had a blast spending vast amounts of time with friends and family hunting in rainbow six and gears, and soon halo3, and its always been a solid service. I have also gotten my moneys worth with stable servers and quick downloads of dlc. When you consider the entertainment derived from a $60 game, a $50 annual enrollment is worth every penny. I really do love xbl, but have never seen psn.

Steve44
09-09-2007, 07:36 PM
I had to put "not sure" as I dont know what a free service is like, or its level of suckiness therein. What I do know is Ive had a blast spending vast amounts of time with friends and family hunting in rainbow six and gears, and soon halo3, and its always been a solid service. I have also gotten my moneys worth with stable servers and quick downloads of dlc. When you consider the entertainment derived from a $60 game, a $50 annual enrollment is worth every penny. I really do love xbl, but have never seen psn.

Thanks Type A - I'm the opposite. I've never used XBL but only used PSN. I love playing online and I have no need for more content...but then again maybe I would if I played XBL. But again, like you said, we both like what we have.
Thanks for your post.

Cygnus
09-09-2007, 09:13 PM
As a PS2 (and PS1) only owner last gen, I got sick of XB getting more online games, superior features and game support, voice chat in every game, etc compared to sony's sloppy and lackluster attempt to take PS2 onlinie (note that sony did a pretty good job bringing EQ to PS2 tho). It looks like PS3 is better than PS2 online, but it does not match the features of XBL. Its as if sony did not even try to make PS2 online any good. And it took them a while to give solid info on PS3 online features and interface, whereas M$ had a strong online strategy from the beginning. Online gaming is important to me since I no longer use PCs for gaming. Sony's idiotic decision to jack up PS3 price due to BR and not include rumble controllers sealed the deal on me buying a 360.

GLOW
09-09-2007, 09:53 PM
I used to use Xbox Live and now I'm using PSN and I love it. I wouldn't want to have to pay for online... that's just goofy. No console makers are charging for online other than M$, they really need to drop it.

Razor05
09-09-2007, 09:57 PM
No console makers are charging for online other than M$, they really need to drop it.

But, no other console maker other than MS has a superior online service like XboxLive.;)

Type A
09-09-2007, 10:13 PM
No console makers are charging for online other than M$, they really need to drop it.

No other console makers forced a next generation dvd player onto their gaming customers except, of course, for Sony. Oh, and that little addition also helped to make said console the most expensive console in gaming history, they really need to drop it.

MattRCT
09-10-2007, 01:37 AM
But, no other console maker other than MS has a superior online service like XboxLive.;)

Razor let GLOW try to manipulate everything so sony looks good. Nothing better then a guy who loves Sony so much for no reason at all............ :rolleyes:

eck979
09-10-2007, 08:04 AM
Eh.. I'd rather pay nothing and it be very functional, it doesn't need to be great.. that's what I voted, but I don't know anything but xbox LIVE so if I tried the other route I may have a different vote.

GLOW
09-10-2007, 08:18 AM
No other console makers forced a next generation dvd player onto their gaming customers except, of course, for Sony. Oh, and that little addition also helped to make said console the most expensive console in gaming history, they really need to drop it.

It looks like they might: http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/09/09/500-80gb-ps3-with-a-spiderman-3-blu-ray-pack-in-our-mole-lets-us-in-on-sonys-future-plans

Mase
09-10-2007, 09:10 AM
It looks like they might: http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/09/09/500-80gb-ps3-with-a-spiderman-3-blu-ray-pack-in-our-mole-lets-us-in-on-sonys-future-plans

Price drops are great and it would be a smart move by Sony but when are they going to put some effort into their games?

They have 3-4 GOOD titles IMO and every Multi platform game is heads and shoulders better on the 360. They need to stop worrying about future Ps3 Owners and start worrying about ones who are not getting their monies worth. I get tired of hearing about its potential and I wanna see it already.

phearcat
09-10-2007, 10:25 AM
OMG xbox live is 5 dollars a month and I am downloading tons of free content, demos, TV shows, chat, games, movies, themes as well as playing online. I'd gladly pay 20 dollars a month for this service.

For what it takes to fill my tank at the gas station I have a years worth of entertainment which I use daily. If you can't afford that then your probably 13 and ride a bike.

I hope your enjoying your free mediocre online service.

Steve44
09-10-2007, 11:04 AM
OMG xbox live is 5 dollars a month and I am downloading tons of free content, demos, TV shows, chat, games, movies, themes as well as playing online. I'd gladly pay 20 dollars a month for this service.

For what it takes to fill my tank at the gas station I have a years worth of entertainment which I use daily. If you can't afford that then your probably 13 and ride a bike.

I hope your enjoying your free mediocre online service.


I do enjoy it. Matter of fact just took 15 minutes of my lunch break (home office) and played some online Resistance.
Savings of $50 here and there adds up. I live in Wash. DC area so the cost of living is...well...more than most. However, I do get paid more than most with same job but that's not the point...I'm a saver. It took me about a year to save for the PS3 through my vendor spiff dollars (got the ps3 for free).

It's ignorant of you to make that comment "If you can't afford that then your probably 13 and ride a bike."
Everybody has that money, it's just where would you rather spend those eighteen things that cost $50 annually. The more saving I do the more I get to laugh at you when I'm 55 and retired and vacationing. I'm 26 with no kids - already saving for 2 kids worth of college and retirement. I'm going to work hard now and save what I can and then this old balding fart will be partying when he's retired!! :banana:

Cygnus
09-10-2007, 11:12 AM
Well thats fine and dandy. That is your choice. From your own unofficial poll, most respondents here disagree with you: they would rather pay than deal with PS3 online.

I do enjoy it. Matter of fact just took 15 minutes of my lunch break (home office) and played some online Resistance.
Savings of $50 here and there adds up. I live in Wash. DC area so the cost of living is...well...more than most. However, I do get paid more than most with same job but that's not the point...I'm a saver. It took me about a year to save for the PS3 through my vendor spiff dollars (got the ps3 for free). :

Gideon
09-10-2007, 11:48 AM
Personally, I am pretty leary of PS online. Sure, it is working just fine right now (probably because not many are using it). What happens WHEN, and IF multiple online games are being played with millions of people??

Hmm, I pay $3.75 a month for an awesome service with little to none "downtime". I am a college student, so I have to manage my money and save as much as possible, but $3.75 a month... seriously guys, that is NOT very much money.

Yes, to me that is very much worth it.

mshulman
09-10-2007, 11:58 AM
I have both the 360 and PS3. I only have 1 retail game for my PS3 - Warhawk. I'd rather pay for a great experience.

Here's my thoughts on the two though.

Xbox Live is very tightly integreated, which is great and what makes the experience so enjoyable. Its easy to get in to games and I feel ranked games are usually with people of my skill level.

With Warhawk on the PS3, I usually have a hard time joining a game. I get a game full message quite a few times before finally finding a game I can get in to - This I find annoying. Same thing happens sometimes on 360, but far less. PS3 is also lacking a way to report abusive users. Even though I feel it does little good sometimes on the 360, its nice to be able to report an abuser. Its also nice to be able to vote and boot someone from a game - something Warhawk is missing. The only place however where warhawk excels (and it damn well better being an online only game) is in the lag department. I have had no issues related to lag or anything similiar. Its as if we are all playing locally.

So 360 has the advantage with the whole overall experience in my mind so far. We'll see what happens as I get more games for my PS3.

phearcat
09-10-2007, 12:05 PM
I spend far more money every day flushing my toilet than I do paying for xbox live service. I consider myself a very causual gammer. There are thousands of people who spend hundreds even thousands of dollars on games every month on online games. I'm not one of those persons.

Last time I checked there were was some rediculous amount of people (like 20 million) people playing World of Warcraft which is just one video game. Thats 15 bucks a month.

Its ironic that many playstation 3 owners think 5 dollars a month for video game service is too much to spend. These are people who shelled out 600 bucks for a game console, I don't understand that logic. You get what you pay for.

Gideon
09-10-2007, 12:30 PM
I spend far more money every day flushing my toilet than I do paying for xbox live service. I consider myself a very causual gammer. There are thousands of people who spend hundreds even thousands of dollars on games every month on online games. I'm not one of those persons.

Last time I checked there were was some rediculous amount of people (like 20 million) people playing World of Warcraft which is just one video game. Thats 15 bucks a month.

Its ironic that many playstation 3 owners think 5 dollars a month for video game service is too much to spend. These are people who shelled out 600 bucks for a game console, I don't understand that logic. You get what you pay for.

Heh, I only pay $3.75 a month- your getting ripped off! ;) If you look (especially during the holiday season) you WILL find a 12 month LIVE card for $39- $45 bucks. Sometimes you can even get a bonus month making it 13 months.

Soo, lets see... $45 divided by 13 months = $3.46 a month.

phearcat
09-10-2007, 01:24 PM
Now that I remember, i did end up geting a 1200 points card, free extra month, xbox live video camera, and headphones and I paid around 65 dollars for the whole kit. The pre-paid yearly live service breaks down to about what you said 3.50 per month.

Gideon
09-10-2007, 02:00 PM
:yippee:

Now if we could just figure out why people moan about having to pay $3.50/month for awesome service with endless amounts of downloads, etc. :rolleyes:

Mase
09-10-2007, 02:31 PM
:yippee:

Now if we could just figure out why people moan about having to pay $3.50/month for awesome service with endless amounts of downloads, etc. :rolleyes:

To try and justify their $500-$600 paper weight..... I mean Ps3 :) ..

Ntruder
09-10-2007, 02:31 PM
Xbox Live and PSN are not really in the same league. Xbox Live has boat loads of standards that all games must meet. From what I gather, PSN is more of a tool for developers to run with. Xbox live is more of a streamlined system.

So basically its hard to compare the two, because PSN is much less of an online service and more of an ability for online play, correct me if I'm wrong.

360kid
09-10-2007, 02:47 PM
What I like best about XBL is you can pay for the Gold service and game online. Or you can get the Silver account for free. The Silver account still tracks your achievements, campaingn stats, and gives you access to downloads and media content via the marketplace.

I have had XBL for about 4 years now, give or take. My renewel is up soon and I will probably not renew and drop down to the Free Silver account. I do not game online much anymore, my career doesn't leave me with much time. The silver account will be perfect, as I love the HD content and game demos still availible with the free account.

Steve44
09-10-2007, 03:55 PM
Thanks for your votes so far...Anyone out there (probably not if they're reading this forum) that have the XBL but wish they did not pay for the service?

It's good to hear some more chiming in about the differences between the two.

mshulman
09-10-2007, 03:58 PM
Thanks for your votes so far...Anyone out there (probably not if they're reading this forum) that have the XBL but wish they did not pay for the service?

It's good to hear some more chiming in about the differences between the two.

Sure, I wish I didn't have to pay, but I don't mind paying because I feel there is value in paying for it.

Basically, I think anytime you spend money their has to be some value in doing so. I think with Xbox Live, there is. I would NOT pay for PSN - there's no added value - its just playing online.

As a comparison, PSN makes me feel like I'm gaming on the PC. Xbox Live is a totally different feeling.

phearcat
09-10-2007, 05:22 PM
If you don't have any time to do online gaming then XBL isn't worth a penny because the ONLY difference between the free membership and gold membership is that the gold memebership allows you to play online with other people.

bboncorr
09-10-2007, 08:19 PM
who wouldnt want xbl for free. honestly that is a loaded question from steve44 anyone would love online gaming for free but what we would have to give up in features would not be worth it.

i love being able to chat with my brother while where playing totaly different games just like where having a phone conversation. i love being able to download free demos and the occasional free movie/show. i love being able to see who just came online and what game there playing and i dont even have to leave the game im playing. i love being able to play the actual offline game with my friends over xbl (anyone who loved gears of war loved that feature) and have absolutely no lag at all. having none to very little lag. being able to see if a specific gamer is "on your level" in gaming. being able to find gamers you might have played a few days ago easily without them being on your friends list. easy voice and text messages. a great rating system so you can avoid those cheaters or people with bad attitudes. it's connected to my messenger so i can send and recieve my I.M.'s when im not near my p.c..

this is just the features off the top of my head and its put together in such an easy way to navigate.

like i have said many times i own both and the psn is just not nearly as good as xbl. there isnt even a comparison and $3.70, or whatever it is, is definetly worth every penny. hell steve44 i will just make up that extra $50 a year by driving 1 mile less a month. you save $50 here and there but honestly what is $50 a year over 34 more years (that is if you work until your 60 the ammount your putting toward your retirement will only be about $1700 before that interest so basicaly your giving yourself an extra month of what you may make now after the interest kicks in)?

if i only had the psn i would actualy be spending more on gas because i would be out looking for something else to do rather then deal with the psn. the only hope for sony is Home but with the reviews and what it will take to run home im not to sure if it will come together as well as xbl. there is a good reason sony isnt hyping that feature to much anymore.

Steve44
09-11-2007, 07:13 AM
like i have said many times i own both and the psn is just not nearly as good as xbl. there isnt even a comparison and $3.70, or whatever it is, is definetly worth every penny. hell steve44 i will just make up that extra $50 a year by driving 1 mile less a month. you save $50 here and there but honestly what is $50 a year over 34 more years (that is if you work until your 60 the ammount your putting toward your retirement will only be about $1700 before that interest so basicaly your giving yourself an extra month of what you may make now after the interest kicks in)?

I COMPLETELY understand those who see the value in the XBL. I am not saying it's not WORTH it. For <$4/month it's a great deal. However, after say 5 years of playing I'm saving "x"dollars over the 360+XBL.
That sure as hell seems trivial, I understand. But I've given up a lot of $25 - $150 annual payments which adds up. As you mentioned the period of 34 years...well multiply $1,700 by, say, 45 (less expensive choices) and I've put a lot of money into other areas to build interest for a rainy day. I'm not like BBONCORR who makes $400,000. You did say that, right?
I don't mean to sound like a penny pincher because I do like my toys as well (PS3, '01 Audi 2.8, HDTV) Those are things that I've saved for for years (you know, sock away $5 here and $20 there and 2 years later I should have the money) and I've researched the best way to purchase these things at the cheapest price I know. Everything that has to do with the PS3 I pay with my spiff dollars from vendors (I'm in sales).

That is why I do not want to purchase 360 and XBL. I can play online with other people without paying more. Over the long haul it's cheaper that way. A very small savings apparently some think...but it all adds up. That's what I was trying to get at. Not sure why I pissed people off, it's just my decision. So that's my story and I'm sticking to it :lol:

EDIT *** I was just talking to one of my customers (a major mortgage company) and I asked her what % have less than "decent" credit. INSTANTLY she said, and I quote, "Oh God, it's disgusting. 90%"
My point? Maybe my savings and my almost perfect credit has something to do with one another??

Razor05
09-11-2007, 09:16 AM
First of all, I think the consensus is that people feel XboxLive is worth the $50 a year. Secondly this thread has gotten off track abit, don't you think? Responders to this thread have already given their reasons why they feel this service is worth X amount of dollars. The debate is over the merits of both online services, and if PSN and XboxLive were equal, we would have a whole different story here. A person then could say why should I pay when the other is free. But to justify one over the other because of how much money one can save over a period of time is ridiculous. Using that reasoning, I could say that the money I saved not buying a PS3 would put me farther ahead in the long run. We are all gamers here, and we all have our own reasons for the choices we make. Some of us just have to accept that fact. Maybe the title of this thread should of been 'What things could you have cut back on to fund your gaming habits?':rolleyes:

phearcat
09-11-2007, 10:30 AM
Personally given my track record the chances of me still playing xbox live for the 360 in say 5-6 years are farily slim. I have many other hobbies and interests outside of video games. I mainly bought the 360 to play Halo 3 and Call Of Duty on, in fact I didn't own a xbox 360 until the elite came out earlier this year. If sure I will get a few years out of enjoyment with Halo3 but that can't last forever. My daughter still enjoys playing Halo 1 campaign levels on my elite.

Ntruder
09-11-2007, 10:46 AM
The best thing about XBL being a paid service is that they have a huge staff dedicated directly to maintaining the continuity of the entire experience. They are constantly releasing updates, keeping everything in good shape and functioning properly.

Gideon
09-11-2007, 02:28 PM
I COMPLETELY understand those who see the value in the XBL. I am not saying it's not WORTH it. For <$4/month it's a great deal. However, after say 5 years of playing I'm saving "x"dollars over the 360+XBL.
That sure as hell seems trivial, I understand. But I've given up a lot of $25 - $150 annual payments which adds up. As you mentioned the period of 34 years...well multiply $1,700 by, say, 45 (less expensive choices) and I've put a lot of money into other areas to build interest for a rainy day. I'm not like BBONCORR who makes $400,000. You did say that, right?
I don't mean to sound like a penny pincher because I do like my toys as well (PS3, '01 Audi 2.8, HDTV) Those are things that I've saved for for years (you know, sock away $5 here and $20 there and 2 years later I should have the money) and I've researched the best way to purchase these things at the cheapest price I know. Everything that has to do with the PS3 I pay with my spiff dollars from vendors (I'm in sales).

That is why I do not want to purchase 360 and XBL. I can play online with other people without paying more. Over the long haul it's cheaper that way. A very small savings apparently some think...but it all adds up. That's what I was trying to get at. Not sure why I pissed people off, it's just my decision. So that's my story and I'm sticking to it :lol:

EDIT *** I was just talking to one of my customers (a major mortgage company) and I asked her what % have less than "decent" credit. INSTANTLY she said, and I quote, "Oh God, it's disgusting. 90%"
My point? Maybe my savings and my almost perfect credit has something to do with one another??

There are MANY MANY things in life that we pay regularly or "per month". What you choose to spend yours on is up to you, but dont get on peoples back because maybe they chose to spend some of their monthly wages on XBL and a decent car, instead of an Audi 2.8, etc etc. ((analogy))

Maybe "some" people want the basic satellite service, while others want the "whole package" with the HD channels included.;)

Im sure you understand where im going with this.