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Looking for a new DLP.

epiphanize
08-30-2007, 08:16 PM
Im trying to decide on a new DLP for my living room. Ill be running both a Blu-ray(PS3), HD-DVD player, and a WII on it as well as HD Cable programming. I will be sitting approximately 8 feet back from the unit. The ones I'm deciding between are:

The Samsung HL-T6187S 61" LED DLP
The Samsung HL-T6176S 61" Slim-depth Lamp DLP
The Samsung HL-T5687S 56" LED DLP
The Samsung HL-T5676S 56" Slim-depth Lamp DLP

I want to stay around this price point, but also I want the most bang for my buck. Id also like to hear everyone's thoughts on the LED DLPs. If anyone has any other recommendations of other brands, that would be cool too.

itsamikey
08-30-2007, 09:01 PM
I have only had it for a short time, but I love my Mits, WD65734, $2300, cheaper online.

tlbowers57
08-30-2007, 09:08 PM
You should go to the AV science Forum and read up on the Slim line samsung's (Lamp and LED) lots of problems with Geometry that can't be fix, also should read the Home Theater Mag review on the LED samsung, Mit and Sony has some very nice tv's out right now, The Mit 734 and 833 ( have both of these) and the Sony A-3000. The mit 57734 and 65734 are around this price point , the Sony a little higher If it's anything you would like to know about any of these , just ask !

benbritt
08-30-2007, 09:29 PM
I love my Samsung HL-T5687S

Pauli22
08-31-2007, 06:38 AM
Stay away from the Samsung HL-T6189s. I got it in July and I'm having problem with my PS3 whenever I watch to watch a blu-ray movie at 1080p. The picture is bad but when I play a game it's fine. Samsung came out and already replace a board and I'm still having the problem. I'm going to return it.

Loves2Watch
08-31-2007, 07:49 AM
You should also look at LCOS both Sony And JVC have it (JVC calls theirs D-ILA). It suffers none of the artifact and other problems associated with DLP, Plasma, and LCD. It is by far the best new technology avail for a artifact free picture. They will fall within your price range.

epiphanize
08-31-2007, 07:59 PM
Thanks everyone for all the advice. After much reading I am leaning towards the mitsu 65733. But I am intrigued by the LCOS Loves mentioned. Do you happen to have model numbers for those so I can see if I can get them through work?

tlbowers57
08-31-2007, 11:08 PM
You should also look at LCOS both Sony And JVC have it (JVC calls theirs D-ILA). It suffers none of the artifact and other problems associated with DLP, Plasma, and LCD. It is by far the best new technology avail for a artifact free picture. They will fall within your price range.

Everything you said is personal opinion and this is fine, but still nothing more , my opinion is i see artfacts on the new Sony A-3000, I'd look at 4 of them and saw it on all 4, most tv's don't really look all that good out of box, but can make most look very good with settings and Tweaks, To me the Mit has better PQ that the Sony, I just love you guys that try to say one Technology is so much better than the other. Yes, the Sony (A-3000) is a nice tv , just think the Mit is better and better price!

tlbowers57
08-31-2007, 11:17 PM
Thanks everyone for all the advice. After much reading I am leaning towards the mitsu 65733. But I am intrigued by the LCOS Loves mentioned. Do you happen to have model numbers for those so I can see if I can get them through work?

If you go for the Mit , i would go with the 734 not 733, it's not much different in price, but get more tv with the 734, like PerfecTint,DarkDetailer, 4 HDMI 1.3 hook up's (733 3 hook up's) and some other things. or for about $400. more ,can get the 833 ( top-of-line model) with 120Hz, anti glare screen, and high gross look!

epiphanize
09-01-2007, 01:20 AM
I guess I should add I am trying to work within the availability I have at work. I work for Best Buy so Im trying to take advantage of my discount. I do not believe we carry the 734 and the 833 is only available through our Magnolia stores which I do not have access to.

Loves2Watch
09-01-2007, 10:31 AM
Everything you said is personal opinion and this is fine, but still nothing more , my opinion is i see artfacts on the new Sony A-3000, I'd look at 4 of them and saw it on all 4, most tv's don't really look all that good out of box, but can make most look very good with settings and Tweaks, To me the Mit has better PQ that the Sony, I just love you guys that try to say one Technology is so much better than the other. Yes, the Sony (A-3000) is a nice tv , just think the Mit is better and better price!

That's your opinion. LCOS is artifact free as is discussed in/on all of the forums and technical web sites. Make sure you are looking at LCOS and not some hybrid technology.

tlbowers57
09-01-2007, 07:29 PM
That's your opinion. LCOS is artifact free as is discussed in/on all of the forums and technical web sites. Make sure you are looking at LCOS and not some hybrid technology.

I know what i'm looking at, know what a sony tv is! LCOS IS NOT ARTIFACT free, and for sure i'm not the only one with this opinion!
By the way , work on tv's for a living so know a little about them, And only some peoples opinions that LCOS is better than the rest, just as many opinions the other ways!

tlbowers57
09-02-2007, 12:05 AM
I guess I should add I am trying to work within the availability I have at work. I work for Best Buy so Im trying to take advantage of my discount. I do not believe we carry the 734 and the 833 is only available through our Magnolia stores which I do not have access to.

If the 733 is the only one (Mit) you can get , it's still a very nice tv, but you may want to take a look at the new Sony A-3000 ( if you don't care so much about size,as biggest size is 60") As it is a very nice tv, and has about the same features of the Mit 734, and 120Hz like the Mit 833, still think the 734 and 833 has the better PQ , and better looking tv's , but sure would not go wrong with the sony, and you may like it better, should take a look at it anyway.BB does carry the sony.
BB sells the 833 on web, can you buy off it or do you need to buy from store you work at?
Out of the 3( my opinion)
No 1 833 (Mit)
No 2 A-3000 (sony)
No 3 733 (mit)
hope this helps you a little!

awalt
09-02-2007, 02:18 AM
I have older Sony LCOS's, a 50" A2020 and a 60" A2000. I couldn't be more pleased with both, they are great for sports and the color and clarity is outstanding. I am a big fan of LCOS technology and these TVs did not disappoint me.

PS you may be able to get a great deal on an A2020 if anyone has them in stock, since the A3000 is out. I bought mine 2 weeks ago. There is really very little difference between the two models, at least as I was concerned. I bought the A2020 and never looked back...

epiphanize
09-02-2007, 08:06 AM
Yeah unfortunately I can only buy ones from stores in my area if I want my discount and there are no magnolia stores near here. I will check out the a-3000 today. Again thanks to everyone for the info.

tlbowers57
09-02-2007, 08:43 AM
Yeah unfortunately I can only buy ones from stores in my area if I want my discount and there are no magnolia stores near here. I will check out the a-3000 today. Again thanks to everyone for the info.

When working right, all the set's that everyone here has let you know about are very nice tv's, and as you can see, very different opinions, what it comes down to is what you like the best , when i was looking to buy , i would get it down to 2 or 3 set's and go to different stores and play around with them , as different stores will have different setup's, and buy what i like the best over all, as in the end what you like the best is what matters. with some tweaks and playing around with the settings you can make all of theses tv's look very good

inazsully
09-02-2007, 06:13 PM
Even the LED based DLP's suffer from RBE, even though most people cannot see them. Spinning color wheels do fail and are expensive ($1200). Next year DLP's will only be available from Samsung and Mitsubishi. LCOS seems to me to be a safer choice and next year will be available only from Sony, JVC, and Syntex Brillian.

tlbowers57
09-02-2007, 06:46 PM
Even the LED based DLP's suffer from RBE, even though most people cannot see them. Spinning color wheels do fail and are expensive ($1200). Next year DLP's will only be available from Samsung and Mitsubishi. LCOS seems to me to be a safer choice and next year will be available only from Sony, JVC, and Syntex Brillian.

Next year it may be no color wheels at all on new tv's, as Samsung and Mittsubishi are going with Laser tech,and also said to do away with RBE for good, These tv's should be out 1st part of year.

epiphanize
09-05-2007, 05:39 PM
So after reading up and looking at what I have available to me at work I've narrowed it down to these three...

The Samsung HL-T6187S 61" LED DLP
The Samsung HL-T6176S 61" Slim-depth Lamp DLP
The Mitsubishi WD-65733 DLP

Im a little scared of the LED technology, Ive also read about some issues with the sammy's geometry. When i look at them in store I dont see a difference, but maybe someone has some experience with them once they have been optomized.

Loves2Watch
09-05-2007, 08:26 PM
I know what i'm looking at, know what a sony tv is! LCOS IS NOT ARTIFACT free, and for sure i'm not the only one with this opinion!
By the way , work on tv's for a living so know a little about them, And only some peoples opinions that LCOS is better than the rest, just as many opinions the other ways!

Maybe the Sony's are not artifact free. That being said, LCOS is the closest thing to CRT currently available but does display like any projection set.

tlbowers57
09-05-2007, 09:02 PM
Maybe the Sony's are not artifact free. That being said, LCOS is the closest thing to CRT currently available but does display like any projection set.

don't get me wrong, Sony makes some very nice tv's. like the sony A-3000 looks real nice so for, but they are not any better than other rear-projection tv's,HD can look like WOW on all of them,if they are set up right . i just think the Mit 734 and 833 have better over all PQ, less glare, and are better looking tv's, Next time i buy one, who knows , it may be a sony ,as i don't go by tech(not that much differents)when i buy , i go by what fits my need the best at the time and what looks best over all to me

epiphanize
09-15-2007, 08:23 AM
Just wanted to thank everyone for the help. I ended up going with the Mitsu 65733 and am very happy with it.

doug527
09-15-2007, 12:24 PM
It's splitting hairs when it comes to picture quality, especially once in your home without another set by it's side for comparison. What should be the number one question, at least for me is, and maybe someone here has the answere.

Which rear projection tv will last the longest?The least of problems

tlbowers57
09-15-2007, 10:30 PM
It's splitting hairs when it comes to picture quality, especially once in your home without another set by it's side for comparison. What should be the number one question, at least for me is, and maybe someone here has the answere.

Which rear projection tv will last the longest?The least of problems

If We knew this, everyone would have the same set!!

everquestphil
12-05-2007, 01:46 AM
Alright, I've spent the last week trying to get a Samsung that I'm satisfied with to no avail. If you are considering buying this TV ( or any of the Samsung DLP's), DO YOUR RESEARCH!! I found out the hard way by going through 2 brand-new, separate TVs. This unit is a VERY poor design. The frame holding the screen in place is very weak and will cause the screen to distort. This in turn causes the picture displayed on the screen to distort also. The end result is that you will notice bowing when watching content with straight lines (like your cable or DTV guide, news/sports tickers, etc.) You will not notice this misalignment when watching regular motion video, but if you have any straight edges from say a PC or video game console, you will see this problem clearly. IMO, this is totally unacceptable and I am in disbelief that a TV manufacturer would try to sell this product, especially given the $1500-$2000 price tag. Luckily, I am still within my 30-day return policy, so I have decided to dump Samsung in favor of the Sony KDS-55A3000. Please, please, please read all the reviews you can find, go look in the store, and do whatever it takes to make an informed decision regarding this TV. This problem has nothing to do with HD or SD or your video signal or anything except for a flawed TV design. I even went to the store where I purchased and showed the sales folks and managers the problem on ALL of the Samsung DLPs the had on display. EACH ONE had varying degrees of bow. The store employees were surprised, to say the least, and even one manager said that she couldn't believe that they were selling these things now. She said she loved the Samsungs, but after seeing this, there's no way she would EVER buy one. (I think she was more upset about it than me!) The only reason that this TV gets any plus from me is because of the outstanding picture quality...but I determine quality based on all aspects of performance, and Samsung has laid a HUGE goose egg with this model...perfect color representation with a WARPED SCREEN!! LOL!!!...And they are the official HDTV for the NFL?!?!?! You may get lucky and receive one that does not exhibit this anomaly, but are you going to bet your $1500-$2000 on some luck? Remember, I got 2 BRAND-NEW, never-opened models, and both showed significant screen warp. Also, many consumer reviews describe other problems with this TV that could be considered even more significant than screen bow! DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!