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MLB 2K7... PS3 vs. 360. IGN

EddieDZ
02-28-2007, 11:21 AM
PS3 MLB 2K7
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/768/768221p1.html

360 MLB 2K7
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/768/768722p1.html

PS3 MLB 2K7
7.5 Presentation
The television styled presentation is hampered by slowdown, constant rendering passes and overused blur filters.
8.0 Graphics
Some faces look very close to their real life counterparts. Others are simply horrendous, and the visual tricks aren't doing them any favors.
7.5 Sound
Fresh pre-game dialogue from Zelasko and Physioc can't overwhelm stale lines from Miller and Morgan.
7.0 Gameplay
Some of the issues from last year have been fixed, only to be replaced by new ones. Bugs, ineffective Sixaxis control and other issues help hamper an enjoyable experience.
7.5 Lasting Appeal
The redesigned Franchise/GM Career will give you lots to do, but the slowdown and glitches will decrease your enjoyment of the game.

7.4 Decent OVERALL

360 MLB 2K7
8.0 Presentation
The television styled presentation is hampered by odd slowdown issues, constant rendering passes and overused blur filters.
8.0 Graphics
Some faces look very close to their real life counterparts. Others are simply horrendous, and the visual tricks aren't doing them any favors.
7.5 Sound
Fresh pre-game dialogue from Zelasko and Physioc can't overwhelm stale lines from Miller and Morgan.
7.5 Gameplay
Some of the issues from last year have been fixed, only to be replaced by new ones. Bugs, glitches and other issues help hamper an enjoyable experience.
8.0 Lasting Appeal
The redesigned Franchise/GM Career will give you lots to do, but the numerous slowdown and glitches will decrease your enjoyment of the game.

7.9 Good OVERALL

WOW!!!!! this is indeed very very interesting to a sad point... both versions are 99.99% identical and yet IGN favors the 360 version. makes you wonder doesnt it.. if both reviews are identical "WORD-FOR-WORD" you would think both would get the exact same score.. yea its a sad sad world indeed. oh well.

Colt45
02-28-2007, 11:31 AM
Different standards?

The 360 demo sucks ass, so I'm passing.

joba78
02-28-2007, 11:57 AM
Yeah...I'm passing too. The demo was so-so. I want a baseball game so immersive that it most likely can only be done on the next-next generation consoles. MLB2K7 doesn't do this for me at the moment...If they dropped the price?...

The reviews were identical. I wondered the same thing when I read it also b/c they didn't cite any diff in online options, online play, graphics, etc. I thought those may have been the diff in scores. Who knows?

Cygnus
02-28-2007, 12:09 PM
From what you posted, the only difference seems to be in the "Lasting Appeal" (e.g. longevity) category. Did you read the entire review? Does PS3 version has the same online options as 360 (assuming 360 version has online play). Note that I have not read either review.

bboncorr
02-28-2007, 12:12 PM
am i the only one who noticed there where 3 areas where the 360 version was rated higher. i know its only slightly better but what did we expect since it was more then likely a port.

Cygnus
02-28-2007, 12:16 PM
Heh thanx, I didn't notice that. Apparently nor did Eddie for his "99.99% identical" remark... :p :rolleyes:

mshulman
02-28-2007, 12:19 PM
I will agree that it is annoying that they had it word for word yet different ratings. It seems as if the reviewer was too lazy to comment on why one got a lower review than the other.

We could speculate that even though its word for word, there was some slight difference that the reviewer noticed that they just couldn't put into words. Or perhaps they just don't like the PS3 or like the 360 better? Or they expect more from the PS3 version.

EddieDZ
02-28-2007, 12:23 PM
yea they said they where working on a demo for both the 360 and PS3. the 360 demo came out monday if im not mistaken.. sadly us PS3 users dont get the demo until this thursday since thursday is the day the store gets updated.

yes sadly both reviews are the same "WORD FOR WORD" the entire review all 3 pages. very odd isnt it. i read both reviews and then did a side by side of both reviews and every single world was the same, paragraph for paragraph.

the 360 version score a 0.5 higher in Presentation, last appeal and gameplay and overallscore. ... GAMEPLAY?! hmmmm werid.

but as Colt mention it could possibly be that both had different standards when they went to review them.. i dont know, maybe they did expect the PS3 version to be alittle better... who knows... still a very odd thing that has showed up.. and on top of it all ITS THE SAME GUY that reviews both of them.. very very strange.. hhhmmmm.

sorry i should have put 100% identical LOL.

SOBAY310
02-28-2007, 12:46 PM
Thankfully we still have MLB 07: The Show to look forward too on the PS3. :yippee:

I was hoping 2k sports was going to put out a nice baseball game this year.

Cygnus
02-28-2007, 12:49 PM
IGN has lame reviews anyway. I prefer gamespot reviews. Besides if the reviews are based on "working demos", then I really take it with a grain of salt. I always wondered how IGN gets reviews faster than gamespot.

Cygnus
02-28-2007, 12:50 PM
If its developed by the same guys who did the NBA game, that is nothing to brag about. MLB games don't get near the budget (or sales) than NFL and NBA.

Thankfully we still have MLB 07: The Show to look forward too on the PS3. :yippee:

I was hoping 2k sports was going to put out a nice baseball game this year.

joba78
02-28-2007, 01:18 PM
the 360 version score a 0.5 higher in Presentation, last appeal and gameplay and overallscore. ... GAMEPLAY?! hmmmm werid.
Remember, the lack of rumble affects the pitching dramatically in this game on the PS3. I BET the editor of the review will point this out if word gets back to him about his laziness.

As far as the 360 demo....could anyone move their batter around in the batter's box? I couldn't and it felt really stiff there.

eck979
02-28-2007, 01:29 PM
And this may have something to do w/ the slightly lower gameplay rating on PS3.. the only thing that isn't identical.

7.0 Gameplay
Some of the issues from last year have been fixed, only to be replaced by new ones. Bugs, ineffective Sixaxis control and other issues help hamper an enjoyable experience.

SOBAY310
02-28-2007, 01:38 PM
If its developed by the same guys who did the NBA game, that is nothing to brag about. MLB games don't get near the budget (or sales) than NFL and NBA.

Brag? I'll brag about how proud I am of my daugther or I'll brag about how great my younger brother and sisters are doing in school. But video games? Please, I'm not bragging about anything.

All I was doing was saying that since 2k7 looks to not be a great game (based on reviews), at least I still have "The Show" to look forward to. Last years game on the PS2 was great, and I hope that it's great this year too. Baseball is the game I will be playing the most every year, so it's exciting for me.

godson
02-28-2007, 01:42 PM
Brag? I'll brag about how proud I am of my daugther or I'll brag about how great my younger brother and sisters are doing in school. But video games? Please, I'm not bragging about anything.

All I was doing was saying that since 2k7 looks to not be a great game (based on reviews), at least I still have "The Show" to look forward to. Last years game on the PS2 was great, and I hope that it's great this year too. Baseball is the game I will be playing the most every year, so it's exciting for me.
The Show was ok,but hardly anything spectacular. Much better than the old 989 games Sony used to pawn off,but still,second rate IMO.

SOBAY310
02-28-2007, 01:45 PM
The Show was ok,but hardly anything spectacular. Much better than the old 989 games Sony used to pawn off,but still,second rate IMO.

Well if the show blows too, then I'll just have to break out my SNES and play Ken Griffey Jr Baseball this season. :yippee:

That game never gets old.

bboncorr
02-28-2007, 04:46 PM
If its developed by the same guys who did the NBA game, that is nothing to brag about. MLB games don't get near the budget (or sales) than NFL and NBA.

no they brought in an ea guy and his crew to work on the mlb2k series. its the same guy who did mvp05.

BiggNewt
02-28-2007, 05:25 PM
ugghh...I miss MVP Baseball.

bboncorr
02-28-2007, 05:57 PM
sorry guys i like it. dont base your opinion on reviewers. rent it and see how it goes.

usualy game review sites dont review sports games good. they seem to give the game with the best graphics the highest scores. remember these are the same guys who gave madden 07 a 8.5. sorry but that game deserved a 7.0 and no higher in my opinion but the graphics where pretty so it was given a higher score. they also gave the shell of a game madden 06 an 8.0 because it was pretty looking.

i just dont listen to reviewers when it comes to sports titles there just not into them. it cuts to much time out of there dance dance revolution time (grandmas boy anyone. that movie rocked).

EddieDZ
02-28-2007, 06:23 PM
IGN has lame reviews anyway. I prefer gamespot reviews. Besides if the reviews are based on "working demos", then I really take it with a grain of salt. I always wondered how IGN gets reviews faster than gamespot.

very true.. i dont know why i like there reviews though.. maybe cause i've been going to IGN for many many years. its true though that they get reviews out before alot of others. However sometimes i think they get the "final code" but not the retail copy although the final code is the retail copy, this happened with the review of God of War II. they state in that review that they are reviewing the "final coding" but its not the "retail version" but then they say the "final coding" IS the same as the "retail version" .. GoWII got reviewed like a week ago at IGN but the game isnt due out until March 13th i believe.

MLB:The Show is PS3 exclusive i think?.. well PSP and PS2 too..

joba78- yea you make a good point. it could very well be that the lack of rumble is what makes the score different, i just wish if it was true that the review mention something about it.. i dont remember reading anything about it. "I THINK" the PS3 review(the conclusion part) mentions something about that the tilt feature is being used but not that great.. maybe this caused very slightly lower score too. im not gonna bother going back to the article and finding it. thanks guys im glad this didnt turn out into another war thread LOL!.

Razor05
02-28-2007, 06:35 PM
TeamXbox gave it a 8.4

Major League Baseball 2K7 Review (Xbox 360) (http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1294/Major-League-Baseball-2K7/p1/)

EddieDZ
02-28-2007, 06:43 PM
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/936393.asp
game informer (the magazine) also gave it a 8.5 for the PS3. .. man that gamerankings website is awesome.. i like how they give you ALL the reviews/scores for all the sources that have reviewed a specific game then rounds it off and gives you a average %. very useful, im certainly going to be using it from now on instead of going from site to site to site like i use to :)

junehhan
02-28-2007, 08:39 PM
I just picked up MLB 2k7 for the X360 today thanks to the $75 I have saved up in reward certificates. Too bad my X360 won't arrive till monday.........

Maybe that editor just doesn't like the PS3.

EddieDZ
02-28-2007, 08:57 PM
why wont your 360 arrive till monday??? it broke or something?

junehhan
02-28-2007, 09:13 PM
why wont your 360 arrive till monday??? it broke or something?

Yeah, this was my replacement after the DVD drive finally burned out in my launch day unit. The replacement has broken very quickly which suggests to me that it was poorly refurbished. However, i'm hoping that my replacement for the replacement will give me the same outstanding service that my original one gave me.

godson
03-01-2007, 12:06 AM
Yeah, this was my replacement after the DVD drive finally burned out in my launch day unit. The replacement has broken very quickly which suggests to me that it was poorly refurbished. However, i'm hoping that my replacement for the replacement will give me the same outstanding service that my original one gave me.
Any notion as to how the drive burned out? I see it was a launch box,think thats it? My cousin has his since launch and no problems yet,although he dont log the kinda hours we do.

junehhan
03-01-2007, 10:49 PM
Any notion as to how the drive burned out? I see it was a launch box,think thats it? My cousin has his since launch and no problems yet,although he dont log the kinda hours we do.


Well, my launch day unit logged in some major hours nonstop. I can't even remember anymore, but I bet that there were at least 1200-1500 hours logged in gaming time alone. I had a lot of people including my brother who were over playing all night long for days at a time. I also used it heavily as a DVD player until I picked up my HD-A1. A short while before the drive burned out, it started making wierd noises and vibrating at times.

The good news is that it looks like UPS is ahead of schedule and they called me to tell me that I should be home tomarrow. Maybe i'll be able to join you guys in a few games of MLB 2K7 this weekend afterall. The bad news is that I won't be home till later in the day, as i'm in school all morning. :mad:

Maybe i'll put a note on the door to have the UPS guy deliver it to my neighbor as he's in his upper 80's and is home all the time.

godson
03-01-2007, 11:43 PM
lol...cool. Wow thats alot of hours bro:eek:

Cygnus
03-04-2007, 09:37 AM
gamespot's take:

PS3 7.4 360 7.8
The Good: Outstanding presentation; most of the player models are fantastic; jon miller and joe morgan do a great job calling the action; new franchise interface works well; gameplay shows a lot of improvement.

The Bad: Some frustrating quirks and glitches during gameplay and in franchise mode; frame rate isn't great on the 360, and it's flat-out bad on the ps3; lag makes online play a bore; tough to determine pitch speed and location while still having enough time to swing; enough with putting yankees on the cover already.

If you're trying to decide between the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of the game, the PS3's tilt-control swing mechanic isn't enough to make up for a frame rate that often makes the game difficult to play. The 360 version is the way to go thanks to a better--but not great--frame rate.

EddieDZ
03-04-2007, 11:02 AM
yea i heard/read about the tilt feature not being the greatest.. .. a .4 difference is not much too.. seems the game in general is not that great? odd cause i cant recall reading in the IGN review about horrible frame rates on both systems? any baseball fans here pick it up yet? one of my friends on my list just picked up this game like 2 days ago.. i'll ask him what he thinks of it and what he thinks of the framerate etc..

junehhan
03-04-2007, 12:50 PM
gamespot's take:

PS3 7.4 360 7.8
The Good: Outstanding presentation; most of the player models are fantastic; jon miller and joe morgan do a great job calling the action; new franchise interface works well; gameplay shows a lot of improvement.

The Bad: Some frustrating quirks and glitches during gameplay and in franchise mode; frame rate isn't great on the 360, and it's flat-out bad on the ps3; lag makes online play a bore; tough to determine pitch speed and location while still having enough time to swing; enough with putting yankees on the cover already.

If you're trying to decide between the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of the game, the PS3's tilt-control swing mechanic isn't enough to make up for a frame rate that often makes the game difficult to play. The 360 version is the way to go thanks to a better--but not great--frame rate.


That reminds me of what trying to play 2k6 on the X360 last year was like. The frame rates were so jerky that it made precision pitching damn near impossible at some of the more visually demanding stadiums. It also made fielding more difficult, and timing the swings of your batter. The frame rates for 2k7 appear to be rock solid when it counts, as it never dips or varies unless it's playing back a replay. The graphics are also such a huge improvement, as everything looks damn photorealistc, and that's only in 720p!

eck979
03-05-2007, 08:08 AM
Yeah, I noticed the framerate is pretty solid except for replays and cutscenes of the crowd interacting.. huge step up from the demo

junehhan
03-05-2007, 02:27 PM
Yeah, I noticed the framerate is pretty solid except for replays and cutscenes of the crowd interacting.. huge step up from the demo


That's really a shame because such poor performance is only going to have a negative impact on sales. People playing the demo will just think that this is the same crap that was in 2k6 with the horrible frame rates and horrible bugs. The same was true with Saints Row as the demo had really bad frame rates, while the finally game ran pretty well. In situations when a demo is going to suck as it is based on a very early build of the game, perhaps it would be more beneficial to just not release one at all.

eck979
03-05-2007, 02:44 PM
The crazy thing is the demo came out only like a day before the actual game came out!

Colt45
03-05-2007, 02:45 PM
That's really a shame because such poor performance is only going to have a negative impact on sales. People playing the demo will just think that this is the same crap that was in 2k6 with the horrible frame rates and horrible bugs. The same was true with Saints Row as the demo had really bad frame rates, while the finally game ran pretty well. In situations when a demo is going to suck as it is based on a very early build of the game, perhaps it would be more beneficial to just not release one at all.


or simply release it after the game has been out a while. Releasing before a game comes out more often than not I would imagine do more bad than good even if the demo is good. Sometimes playing the demo is enough to not let me think about purchasing it on release day blindly. Or sometimes the hype is good enough where some people would buy on release day where as a demo experience could change that. Releasing after the game has been out could convince more people to buy, it could before as well but you have the risks I talked about earlier.

The Outfit for example was a much hyped game, demo came out before it was released and killed pretty much all of the hype.

Perfect Dark Zero didn't get a demo until quite a while after release, I bet the numbers sold would be far less if they did release a demo on day one.

Personally for my benefit, I hope they keep releasing them ahead of time as they've save me lots of money ;)