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Future Launch of D*'s HD Satellites May Be Delayed

hdtv4me2
01-31-2007, 10:12 AM
Not good news for the future launch of D*'s new satellites. Looks as if delays are probable.

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/sealaunch/nss8/

Diogenes
01-31-2007, 10:28 AM
Since Directv 10 is not launced from SeaLaunch, D* should not be able to use this as an excuse to slip all HD programming, Directv 10 is ground launched and should be on schedule, Directv 11 will slip. That means we get 75 HD stations instead of 150 :D :D :D .

hitdog042
01-31-2007, 10:32 AM
Since Directv 10 is not launced from SeaLaunch, D* should not be able to use this as an excuse to slip all HD programming, Directv 10 is ground launched and should be on schedule, Directv 11 will slip. That means we get 75 HD stations instead of 150 :D :D :D .

Too bad there isn't 75 national HD stations in America.

moonman
01-31-2007, 10:44 AM
Not good news for the future launch of D*'s new satellites. Looks as if delays are probable.

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/sealaunch/nss8/
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Not really....if all of D*s future launches were dependant on SeaLaunch schedules, then yes, until sealaunch finds out what went wrong, there would probably be a delay. However, D* has spread
the launches out among several companies which includes ILS.
They are scheduled to launch Direct 10 a few months before Direct 11
with an option for a added launch. Both 10 & 11 are to add lots of
H/D for D*, but both are not needed yet since there are not that many channels in H/D yet!
http://www.ilslaunch.com/zmedia/newsarchives/newsreleases/rec316/
:)

Diogenes
01-31-2007, 11:19 AM
Too bad there isn't 75 national HD stations in America.

You are, of course, right, I meant the comment as sarcasm, but it didn't come across. What we need is an emoticon that denotes sarcasm. My main point is that D* should not be allowed to use this disaster as an excuse for not delivering any new HD content.

davecramer74
01-31-2007, 11:26 AM
http://www.tvpredictions.com/sealaunch013107.htm

shoe
01-31-2007, 11:41 AM
Undoubtedly D* will find this as good excuese to raise prices.

Anyway I'm having my D* HD equipment installed on Friday.
I suppose it's no big deal seeing as the other posts are right in that there aren't 75 channels that broadcast in HD. But how about claiming your 150 channels of HD goodness after you actually have 150 channels of HD.

davecramer74
01-31-2007, 11:48 AM
Too bad there isn't 75 national HD stations in America.

cspan
cspan2
discovery
home shopping
superstation wgn
qvc
food netowrk
fx
tnt
espn
expn2
fox sports
tbs superstation
usa
mtv
vh1
spike
lifetime
a&e
bravo
amc
learning channel
animal planet
abc family channel
nickelodian
cartoon channel
disney
cnn
Cnn headline news
Cnbc
Fox News
MSNBC
weather channel
history channel
Comedy central
E! channel
Court tv
hallmark channel
HGTV
BET
Travel Channel
OXYGEN
Country Music TV
G4 Video game channel
Versus
Golf Channel
PBS
Discovery Kids
Toon Disney channel
nickelodian Toon channel
MTV 2
Movieplex
Fox reality
Sci Fi channel
Game Show Network
BBC
Shop NBC
FEARNET
NFL NETWORK
STYLE channel
SOAPNET
Discovery HOME
Discovery Health
nickelodian GAS
FIT tv
Discovery Times
Science Channel
National Geographic Channel
Military Channel
Biography Channel
History Channel
Espn NEWS
Outdoor Channel
ESPN classic
SPEED channel

hdtv4me2
01-31-2007, 12:44 PM
Since Directv 10 is not launced from SeaLaunch, D* should not be able to use this as an excuse to slip all HD programming, Directv 10 is ground launched and should be on schedule, Directv 11 will slip. That means we get 75 HD stations instead of 150 :D :D :D .

It maybe ground launched, but if it's the same rocket it doesn't matter, it will get delayed.

stonedog23
01-31-2007, 01:25 PM
Since when does BET have a HD feed? I have listened to the DTV's commercials and other propaganda and at no time does it say it will have 150 HD channels. They slyly say that they will have the ABILITY to provide 150 HD channels, meaning they will have the space/bandwidth to provide up to that many HD channels with their new satellite launches.

Diogenes
01-31-2007, 06:01 PM
It maybe ground launched, but if it's the same rocket it doesn't matter, it will get delayed.

per lyngsat, Directv 10 is ground launched using a Proton launcher, while Directv11 was to be sea platform launched from a Zenit 3. Two different modes of launch, two different rockets.

I reiterate that D* should not be allowed to use this disaster to renege on it's HD commitment totally. If it does this would seem to be a good argument for early cancellation of all HD related contracts due to D*'s failure to meet it's commitment.

hitdog042
01-31-2007, 09:38 PM
Not good news for the future launch of D*'s new satellites. Looks as if delays are probable.

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/sealaunch/nss8/

Does no good to sit here and speculate what is going to happen.

Jimbos
01-31-2007, 10:16 PM
But how about claiming your 150 channels of HD goodness after you actually have 150 channels of HD.
Where have you been hiding ?
What kool aid have you been drinking ?

D* has NEVER said they will have 150 HD channels by the end of '07.
They said : they have the Capacity to have 150 channels.
I wish people would comprehend what they read and hear.

Jimbo

Jimbos
01-31-2007, 10:17 PM
Since when does BET have a HD feed? I have listened to the DTV's commercials and other propaganda and at no time does it say it will have 150 HD channels. They slyly say that they will have the ABILITY to provide 150 HD channels, meaning they will have the space/bandwidth to provide up to that many HD channels with their new satellite launches.
Nothing SLY about it, it's quite simple, they say they will have the capacity of 150 HD channels.

Jimbos
01-31-2007, 10:19 PM
per lyngsat, Directv 10 is ground launched using a Proton launcher, while Directv11 was to be sea platform launched from a Zenit 3. Two different modes of launch, two different rockets.

I reiterate that D* should not be allowed to use this disaster to renege on it's HD commitment totally. If it does this would seem to be a good argument for early cancellation of all HD related contracts due to D*'s failure to meet it's commitment.
I agree :)

joed32
02-01-2007, 10:28 AM
It's not the same rocket.

Poppr
02-01-2007, 10:40 AM
Jimbo,

Have a glass of water today instead of the D* coolaide :).

It actually says they will "soon" have the capability to offer up to 150 based upon available HD programming.

"The future of television has arrived. DIRECTV brings you our new HD DVR, soon with the capacity to offer 150 HD channels*, that's three times more than cable.** " (DTV webpage linked below)

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPage.jsp?assetId=900034

From the discussions on the boards reguarding the adding HD local slips in numerous markets, I think D*'s deinition of "soon" might be a better question for discussion.

My humble opinion is that if you have any locals in HD now from D* you are WAY ahead of the curve. If you don't yet have it and are looking to order or are awiting an installation good luck. If you get ANY additional channels in HD before October 07 --excellent.

If D* can't tell you exactly when they will be available then perhaps they should drop that enticement from the advertising campaign and instruct the marketing team and CSRs to make no commitments or references to FUTURE SERVICE POTENTIAL. i.e. "You want to sign up -- great this is what we have today in your ZIP code" -- nothing more nothing less. That would leave little if any wiggle room for the customer or D* when questions arise over service promises.

Hopefully for all involved D*'s intoned sevice capabilities will not turn into a Clintonian definition of what is, is.

I understand the point of view from both sides (D* vs customer) but it does seem somewhat deceptive to continue to run that specific ad until the EXACT outcome of the failed launch -- of a totally diferent product/customer--is clearly articulated by the launch community to shareholders, current and potential future D* customers.

Caveat emptor

On the other hand this might be a great time to sign up and then bug D* six months from now to get credits. Might as well get that 2 year commitment rolling and give them crocidile tears when they don't deliver.

shoe
02-01-2007, 11:06 AM
Yeah yeah Jimbos, I get it, they have never said they have 150 channels right now, and I'm not making the claim they did and I know I'm a new guy here....

I'm not a D* hater, subscriber for 4 years and I'm having a HD Dish and reciever installed tommorow in the belief that they will eventually be able to deliver on their promise. I believe.:confused:

I just really don't want to hear about what they are going to do, I want to see it.

stonedog23
02-01-2007, 08:13 PM
Poppr, you are basically posting the same thing that Jimbos and I are saying about capacity as opposed to actuality.

And Jimbos, I said slyly because Directv knew that if it gave a number (150 HD channels) but slyly put in "capacity to" that people would focus in on the 150, thus increasing their profile and brand in this HD war.

lost
02-02-2007, 10:08 PM
:hithere: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMG2SBwIcrM :thumbsup: :(