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Don't fool yourself

steve525
01-14-2007, 02:14 PM
Just look at the networks signed on for HD on DirecTV. Most of their programming is in SD and with the age of most of their shows, pure HD masters will simply not be avaiible. What we will wind up with after the new satellites are launched are upconverted versions of old SD shows. None of these guys are going to pay to have all this old progrmming remastered!!. It is a hoax. :( :( :( :eek:

rbinck
01-14-2007, 02:43 PM
Just look at the networks signed on for HD (http://www.highdefforum.com/showthread.php?p=232575#) on DirecTV.

I don't know which ones you are talking about.

steve525
01-14-2007, 03:01 PM
Sorry, I was talkng about the new HD channels

-- A&E -- National Geographic
-- Bravo -- NFL Network
-- Cartoon Network -- SciFi Channel
-- CNN -- Speed
-- Food Network -- TBS
-- FX -- The History Channel
-- HGTV -- The Weather Channel
-- MTV -- USA Network

bboncorr
01-14-2007, 03:01 PM
so what new about that. most programing in hd now that isnt live or filmed recently (as in 3-4 years) was originaly shot for sd and upconverted now. look at tnthd or universal hd those channels have alot of unconverted content but that doesnt mean it looks bad. most of the upconverted content is a big step up from normal digital anyways but its not quite at csi, discovery, or live sports standards.

most channels just dont want to spend all that extra cash on full hd studios like tnt and discovery did but im sure alot of those channels will be full hd. usa network had been hinting toward this and if that happens then all i care about is fx doing the same then my hd experience will be complete.

Machpelah
01-14-2007, 03:21 PM
I would rather have upconverted HD, than pillar/stretch SD. It is such a new technology, and only a fortunate few that can watch HD. Give the technology some time.

If D* comes through with half of their promise, then we'll have a nice choice of HD channels this time next year. :yippee:

Mulderscully
01-14-2007, 03:34 PM
I just scheduled my H20 installation. I'm really looking forward to what DTV is going to offer this year.
Really looking forward to watching my local regional sports networks in HD.

jpfrasier
01-14-2007, 03:37 PM
Sorry, I was talkng about the new HD channels

-- A&E -- National Geographic
-- Bravo -- NFL Network
-- Cartoon Network -- SciFi Channel
-- CNN -- Speed
-- Food Network -- TBS
-- FX -- The History Channel
-- HGTV -- The Weather Channel
-- MTV -- USA Network

I currently receive NFL Network, Food, and HGTV, all in HD. Two of these Food and HGTV do not follow the same scheduling as there SD counterparts, kind of like Discovery HD. For example right now at 3:30cst HGTV HD is showing a program called "Dwell" while HGTV in SD is showing a program called "Design on a dime." Same with the Food Network in HD. I'm not sure but I think the HD programming for these channels were recorded in HD, just not upconverted from SD.

The NFL Network HD channel broadcast games in HD, these are not converted up from SD either. The NFL Network SD feed simply downconverts(is that a word?) from HD to broadcast on the SD NFL Network channel.

Just look at the networks signed on for HD on DirecTV. Most of their programming is in SD and with the age of most of their shows, pure HD masters will simply not be avaiible. What we will wind up with after the new satellites are launched are upconverted versions of old SD shows. None of these guys are going to pay to have all this old progrmming remastered!!. It is a hoax. :( :( :( :eek:

Maybe the majority of the channels are only upconverting but not all of them, some offer unique programming apart from the SD version. BTW, IMO the NFL network HD has a great picture but turn down the sound, the announcers aren't very informed.

hitdog042
01-14-2007, 04:03 PM
Just look at the networks signed on for HD on DirecTV. Most of their programming is in SD and with the age of most of their shows, pure HD masters will simply not be avaiible. What we will wind up with after the new satellites are launched are upconverted versions of old SD shows. None of these guys are going to pay to have all this old progrmming remastered!!. It is a hoax. :( :( :( :eek:

who cares.

1999cobra
01-14-2007, 06:21 PM
Just look at the networks signed on for HD on DirecTV. Most of their programming is in SD and with the age of most of their shows, pure HD masters will simply not be avaiible. What we will wind up with after the new satellites are launched are upconverted versions of old SD shows. None of these guys are going to pay to have all this old progrmming remastered!!. It is a hoax. :( :( :( :eek:

Dude your like way over the top - LOL ...:confused:

Jimbos
01-14-2007, 09:50 PM
Just look at the networks signed on for HD on DirecTV. Most of their programming is in SD and with the age of most of their shows, pure HD masters will simply not be avaiible. What we will wind up with after the new satellites are launched are upconverted versions of old SD shows. None of these guys are going to pay to have all this old progrmming remastered!!. It is a hoax. :( :( :( :eek:
A hoax ???
If the company is spending millions of dollars to put 4 new sats in the sky I highly doubt that it is a hoax.

Where have you been for the last few years ?

Jimbo

hdtvjunkie
01-14-2007, 10:01 PM
upconverted sd programming to hd is better than no hd!!!!!!!! I would watch anything in hd even if it is upconverted. Hell i would even watch 3's Company if it was on in hd. haha

borromini
01-14-2007, 10:17 PM
Anything shot with 35mm film like shows and documentaries will upscale great to HD. It's not like they're using a cheap upconverting DVD players. The studio equipment to upscale while not cheap, is less expensive in the short run than upgrading the productions to HD.

wneilson82
01-14-2007, 11:00 PM
Progress.

I am not sure anyone expects all the new HD channels to be picture-perfect

HDisGoodMan
01-14-2007, 11:32 PM
I have TWC, so I'm envious of all the HD channels that Direct TV and Dish will soon have !! But seriously, upconverting of content is the fate for 99% of SD programming from the past. Given bandwidth limitations (HDLite anyone ?), would a true HD master of an older program really look that much better that upconverted ? Probably not in the "real world" of watching TV. If TNTHD didn't stretch the X-files, the PQ would probably be much more impressive. Other shows (Equalizer on UHD for instance) look okay upconverted. Classic shows like Star Trek have been restored and a new HD master created. Maybe this will happen with some other classic shows, but not for run-of-the-mill content.