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AV receiver component input question.

Phookster
01-11-2007, 05:11 PM
I'm looking for a receiver that can accept a 1080p component input and output that signal at 1080p over HDMI. I would think most receivers that do hdmi switching and component upconversion would do this. But I've not been able to find any similar threads in this or any other forum. I'm asking because I'd like to set my xbox 360 to 1080p output but my TV only accepts 1080p through hdmi so I can't use the VGA cable either.

Thanks

Brettzies
01-12-2007, 06:56 PM
Have you actually tried the VGA cable? I only ask because when I hooked it up to my flat panel monitor it gives you options for resolutions and not video formats such as 480p, 1080i, 1080p when you goto the setup. I can't remember, but it may have had 1920x1080 which is effectively 1080p, but this was before the recent x360 update allowing that res. I know it had 1280x720 listed and not 720p. Everything was listed in terms of pixel dimensions and not HD standards. To my knowledge, this is how the x360 HD player is able to achieve the 1080p res. Essentially it's exactly the same thing but you're using your tv as a giant computer monitor.

If you have tried this and it didn't work, sorry, just making a guess.

rbinck
01-12-2007, 09:59 PM
Component video does not support 1080p/60 as VGA does. VGA splits the signal into 5 wires and component is on 3 wires. Most displays will only receive 1080p/60 on their VGA or HDMI inputs. There are some high end receivers that will convert component to HDMI but I think they just echo the format received. I don't know any that will receive 1080i/30 and output 1080p/60.

Brettzies
01-29-2007, 12:46 PM
In case anyone is wondering, I tried what I suggested in my previous post. Finally got my HDTV, a full 1080p one, but could not achieve 1080p with the xbox360. The TV is the Sony KDS-A2000 line.

First I downloaded the xbox360 update that gives you 1080p as an option. The xbox360 was already plugged in via component cables, so I just went to the xbox setup and chose 1080p. It came up scrambled. I then tried plugging in the VGA cable and picking a resolution. I had a sneaky suspicion this would not work either as the manual has that strange 1300x768 resolution listed as the "highest." Anyway, I plugged it in, and sure enough it lets you pick 1920x1080. However, the TV reports that PC signal is not supported or something and it won't do it. All the other resolutions worked fine, 1280x1024 or 720, etc. However, I could never get it to fill the screen. I was pretty disappointed as I thought this would work for sure and maybe even get the xbox HD-Dvd drive, but ah well, it still looks pretty nice at 1080i.

This may work for other televisions, but for this line, looks like HDMI is the ONLY way to get 1080p. So I'm wondering the same thing now. Is there a reciever that would do this, or is a direct HDMI cable from the xbox360 needed(they don't exist and may never as of now).

Brettzies
01-29-2007, 01:52 PM
I had a sneaky suspicion this would not work either as the manual has that strange 1300x768 resolution listed as the "highest."
I meant to say the highest the VGA input would accept, not the TV, the TV's native res is 1920x1080.

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kegobeer
01-29-2007, 02:17 PM
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That option appears when you reach a certain post count. I don't recall the number, sorry.

lrodptl
01-29-2007, 06:55 PM
I'm looking for a receiver that can accept a 1080p component input and output that signal at 1080p over HDMI. I would think most receivers that do hdmi switching and component upconversion would do this. But I've not been able to find any similar threads in this or any other forum. I'm asking because I'd like to set my xbox 360 to 1080p output but my TV only accepts 1080p through hdmi so I can't use the VGA cable either.

Thanks
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1080P receivers

Brettzies
01-29-2007, 08:40 PM
Those Pioneer ones look like they could do the trick. Some Sony ones as well. Anyone with any experience doing this with any recievers like this?

The thing is, with the xbox360 in 1080p using component cables, the only thing you actually get in 1080p is the menu/interface from what I've read. I can't even tell the difference between 720p and 1080i honestly. Trying to run HDdvds through the external HD drive doing this method will result in 1080i output(upscaled afterwards I guess). Here's a quote from the xbox360 forums:

VGA is the only way to get 1080p for HD-DVDs. Component will do 1080p for dashboard/games, but only 1080i for HD-DVD.

It's a "copy protection" MPAA thing... Not a technical limitation.