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red and white cable?

nyboy11
12-03-2006, 11:26 PM
hey guys i have my cable box hooked with just simple red and white cables that i had.. anyway its running from my sony surround system to my time warner digital cable box, well, does monster make that red and white cable? i mean i wanted to know if i could get a better sound in my TV(cable box viewing) u know.. cuz that red and white cable i have right now are just plain simple cables(no brand or anything) . i tried searching the monster site for the red and white cables but i couldnt find please help

mfabien
12-04-2006, 07:17 AM
If your cable box and your receiver have digital connection (optical or coax) that gives better quality sound.

nyboy11
12-04-2006, 07:44 AM
i just checked my time warner digital cable box, it has optical, im not sure what coax is tho, is it the black port? and is it only 1 single cable? i checked my sony surround system and it doesnt have a plug for optical in the back??

this is my surround system:
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Sony-Home-Theater-System-DAV-DX375/sem/rpsm/oid/149476/catOid/-12884/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

all slots for sound in the back of the surround system are 2 input slots of red and white. please help me

rbinck
12-04-2006, 08:21 AM
Yep, looking at the specs for your unit shows that despite it being a 5.1 surround system, it does not have a digital input so the red-white analog connection is the best you can do. I don't have a clue why Sony would build a 5.1 surround system for DVD only and not give you at least one digital input, but they did.

Bigloww
12-04-2006, 09:16 AM
That is a burn. Even my old cheapo Sony 5.1 system I got like 4 years ago had 1 optical and 1 coax input. If you are truely looking for better sound, it may be time to upgrade. If you have been good this year, ask Santa for a nice Onkyo SS system.;)

Don't worry about that Monster ripoff stuff. Just go down to your local Walmart or CC/RS and get a decent RCA cable. That very thin stuff is kinda lame. You can get some decent cables for around 10-15 bucks depending on length you need.
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Nexxtech-RCA-Audio-Cable/sem/rpsm/oid/153214/catOid/-12927/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

Monster is over $50 :eek:
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Monster-Cable-Interlink-300-MkII-Audio-Interconnect-with-RCA-I300MKII4M/sem/rpsm/oid/26173/catOid/-12927/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do


Edit, I just looked at your system and it has HDMI input but no other optical inputs/outputs???? Wild. If your Cable box and TV have HDMI, you can use that to get digital sound. A bit more expensive and not sure if the Sony SS has both HDMI in and out??

CC TV GUY
12-04-2006, 09:56 AM
you would be surprised at how many HTIB systems don't have a digital input these days.

rbinck
12-04-2006, 12:26 PM
The HDMI connection is an output for connection to a TV.

360kid
12-04-2006, 01:01 PM
Yep, looking at the specs for your unit shows that despite it being a 5.1 surround system, it does not have a digital input so the red-white analog connection is the best you can do. I don't have a clue why Sony would build a 5.1 surround system for DVD only and not give you at least one digital input, but they did.

Hardly any of the HTiB's with the built in dvd player have a digital aux input. I guess what they figure is that people want 5.1 digital for dvd's and since it has a dvd player built in then there is no need for an aux digital input. Better off just buying one without a built in player, you get alot more input options that way.

rbinck
12-04-2006, 01:56 PM
To tell the truth, I've not given many HTIBs much of a look. I have one in my home office and generally consider HTIBs as a waste of money unless your total goal is to cram a bunch of stuff into a single box without regard to quality.

Bigloww
12-04-2006, 02:06 PM
To tell the truth, I've not given many HTIBs much of a look. I have one in my home office and generally consider HTIBs as a waste of money unless your total goal is to cram a bunch of stuff into a single box without regard to quality.

I would have to disagree with you on that one rbink. Of course HTIB's are not for everyone, but they do serve a great purpose for people that want great sound from all the same brand without having to spend over $500. But like anything else, there are many brands and many different options out there. They have to do a little homework first to make sure it has everything you need. I absolutely love my Onkyo HTS system. It sound great and blows my friends away during movies. They can't believe all that sound and bass comes from those little speakers. All I did was upgrade the speaker wire. And all for under $400 :bowdown: . And I did get 3 digital inputs too. HK, Yamaha and Onkyo all make some pretty dam good HTIB's IMO, but to each his own.

nuttyinnyc
12-04-2006, 02:51 PM
i just checked my time warner digital cable box, it has optical, im not sure what coax is tho, is it the black port? and is it only 1 single cable? i checked my sony surround system and it doesnt have a plug for optical in the back??

this is my surround system:
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Sony-Home-Theater-System-DAV-DX375/sem/rpsm/oid/149476/catOid/-12884/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

all slots for sound in the back of the surround system are 2 input slots of red and white. please help me
But this is a newer system. It has a Hdmi upconvert DVD player. I read this post and couldn't believe it. I had to check Sonystyle to see if he was missing something. But I am sad to say. There is nothing. It claims that the system will convert the movies sound to 5.1 so maybe you can get that effect from the analog cables. I have the DAV-x1 and it had all inputs I needed. I think yours is a newer system. When did you purchase it? If it hasn't been that long I would look into other systems because you really want to connect you STB a system like yours with DVD included or a reciever with a digital connection. I have a Sony receiver from at least 8 years ago that has both types of ditial connections.

nuttyinnyc
12-04-2006, 02:57 PM
To tell the truth, I've not given many HTIBs much of a look. I have one in my home office and generally consider HTIBs as a waste of money unless your total goal is to cram a bunch of stuff into a single box without regard to quality.
I have to disagree also, I bought the one I have because I had no room for a true 5.1 in my bedroom and I didn't want to blow the TV's speakers trying to get that extra bass sound that go really nice with these surround sound systems.

nuttyinnyc
12-04-2006, 03:08 PM
I did the work for you, if you can exchange and want to stay with SONY this is the all in one with all the correct conections you will need. The DAV-FX500 it is more money but look for sales. It is $545, good luck man!

Bigloww
12-04-2006, 03:16 PM
But this is a newer system. It has a Hdmi upconvert DVD player. I read this post and couldn't believe it. I had to check Sonystyle to see if he was missing something. But I am sad to say. There is nothing.

Yeah, that is lame. If you read the reviews on CC about it, there are a few people that like it, but can't believe there are no digital inputs either. Lucky CC has a good return policy.

nyboy11
12-04-2006, 09:29 PM
i bought this system like 5 months ago from sears, anyway, today i bought the Monster red and white cables and boy they MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE!! monster is awesome man, i also got monster component cables with that, awesome video too (i already had ones but i needed an extra) so i connected the NEWER compon. monster cable and the tv looks better too now and more crisp and all in my 50' DLP TV.. i like this system, its an apartment u know so i cant get a REAL BANG BANG system either(and i dont want that either unless i move to a house.. ) anyway these 2 monster speakrs did make a great difference. how better can it sound anyway with coax or optic sound? i mean the sound is crisp as hell in hd channels which im loving that.. so please tell me i mean i cant imagine the sound being more better than this..

Bigloww
12-05-2006, 12:00 AM
Digital vs analog. You gotta hear it for yourself. Especially DTS DVD and stuff like that. Glad to hear it worked out for you. I didn't say Moster cable sucks, just way too overpriced. It is very good quality. You just could of gotten the same results for about 1/3 or 1/4 the price. And I anm not saying your SS system sucks either. Just strange that it does not have optical inputs, especially since it has an HDMI out.

nyboy11
12-05-2006, 07:50 AM
well yea man i wanted to get the max out of the system so i just got these cables and thats it. its good to know that im getting the max out of this system and just some craappy sound with cheap cables i found in the draw ;) btw, i am re arranging the speakrs in the room, because i read that its not correct way to have the speakrs right now(this is how my room is, a standard square living room, assume we stand in the back, the TV is in the very right corner of the room, i would have put it in the middle but theres windows in the middle and the radiator so ya, so the TV is in the right corner of the room, exactly near it is the subwoofer and the right channel speaker, now, in the left corner of the room is the left channel, in the back left corner is the rear left speaker and in the back right corner is the right speaker,oh and the middle speakers is on the TV, now i believe my rear speakers are well placed, 1 in the back left corner and 1 in the right corner of the room(in the middle of these 2 rear speakers is my couch), now, how i think is the correct way is to take the front left corner speakers and put it near the TV so now both front speakers will be exactly near the TV(the right one was always there but the left one was in the very left corner of the room and i believe that was wrong, please correct me if im right for leaving the 2 rear speakers in the back corners and the front speakers exactly in the sides of the TV(the TV is setup in an angle because like i said there is a radiator in there so basically the TV is put in the right corner of the room just in and angle to fit and thats as if u take a triangle, 2 corner of the triangle are the walls right, the 3rd angle is my TV. please assist me

nuttyinnyc
12-06-2006, 04:53 AM
Yeah monster can be high priced but they do have good quality. I meant to suggest to you earlier, when you are looking for you cables.
You only have to look for a better gauge. But remember it is lower the number the better. Also look for a gold connector also. But you can't go wrong with Monster, there is a preimium to get them. Good luck , hope eveything sounds good

nyboy11
12-08-2006, 10:54 PM
ya ;)

ImRizzo
12-09-2006, 08:41 AM
They may be pricey but they are a great service company just send back any product for an immediate replacement. I sent back a cable that was 2 yrs old ( w/ a loose connector) and received a no questions asked replacement quickly.

Bigloww
12-09-2006, 12:44 PM
They may be pricey but they are a great service company just send back any product for an immediate replacement. I sent back a cable that was 2 yrs old ( w/ a loose connector) and received a no questions asked replacement quickly.


For what they charge they can replace that cable 4 more times and still pull a profit. Like I said 4, there qulity (and as you stated), lifetime warranty are great. Just way too expensive. $100+ for a HDMI cable.:eek:
I actually got a bunch of Moster stuff a while back. A Radio Shack near me was closing and waited until they were like 75% off. Kinda surprised they still had so many left. I stll payed over $20 for an HDMI cable. Is the quality better than my $18 HDMI cable, perhaps, but the PQ is the same. I still have not used most of the others yet. They are still in there original packaging. I hope they are worth more, like Star War action figures.:rolleyes:

msamelia
12-09-2006, 10:29 PM
wow.. hmmmmmmmmm

nyboy11
12-10-2006, 08:02 AM
guys i have a problem, my surround system(sony) only has 2 inputs(red and white of course) now, i have my cable box hooked into 1 and my 360 into the other. is there some kind of a switch/splitter so i can use more than 2 components? i want to buy a ps3 but i wont be able to use surround sound because the 2 inputs are already taken and it'll be a hassle to witch back and forth u know so please, is there some kind of a switch? hows its called aswell

Bigloww
12-10-2006, 12:29 PM
Do you only need to split the audio or video as well through the reciever? From what I see it's RCA audio only. Here is a cheap switch for around $15 that comes with S-video too. But you can just use the audio for your 360, PS3 or whatever. You can get 1 with component video and remote for around $70 if you wanted it.

http://www.emtcompany.com/products/av-accessories/lm493-s-video-av-audio-video-switch-box-svideo-selector.htm?gclid=CJSY7Iq9iIkCFUbTJAod8i_gdw

nyboy11
12-10-2006, 01:44 PM
i need audio only, so basically look, i have my sony surround system and it has 2 inputs, i will use 1 input and plug cables from the system into the splitter and my components like 360 into the back of the splitter. will that work? any quality loss? btw i already own this one: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103918&cp=2032057.2032187.2032188.2032200&pg=2&parentPage=family&parentPage=family

but i cant understand how i will split sound with it if possible please help

nyboy11
12-10-2006, 01:55 PM
btw my surround system has 3 dolby sound options, first is the regular dolby pro logic, dolby pro logic II movie and dolby pro logic II music, which is the best one to choose for overall use

Bigloww
12-10-2006, 11:51 PM
You should be able to say plug in your 360 into the audio input1 and your PS2 or 3 into the audio input 2 (video going directly into TV). Then audio output from the switch into 1 of the 2 RCA audio inputs on your recieiver. Then just switch back and forth between the 2 when needed. You can also use it for component video as well if/when you run outta video inputs on your TV. Just run them strait to your TV until/ if that is needed.

Pro Logic is for music/CD for the most part to my knowledge. Things like DTS or Dolby Digital/5.1 is more for video/gaming surround sound. Pro Logic will be more a simulatted surround for movies. But not 100% sure. I would assume it supports DTS/Dolby digital while playing DVD's via the intergrated DVD player??? But since it does not have any digital inputs, not shure what the deal is.. I guess Pro II movie would be best if you don't have DTS.

nyboy11
12-10-2006, 11:57 PM
no it doesnt have DTS..

nyboy11
12-10-2006, 11:59 PM
it does have this thing called a 4 channel multi option which i use all the time, sound comes from all 4 speakers(center(5th) speaker is shut off until dolby is enabled) and im liking this option i mean since i dont have any other option, what ss system do u have Bigloww?

Bigloww
12-10-2006, 11:59 PM
I have the Onkyo HTS-790 7.1.. It rocks..
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Onkyo-Home-Theater-System-HT-S790/sem/rpsm/oid/148967/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

Here is a good description of Pro and Pro 2.. It does appear it is true surround, but not DTS. I just use it for music.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Pro_Logic

From what I can see it does support DTS. But only through the DVD player I would guess. Since you don't have any digital inputs....

nyboy11
12-11-2006, 07:18 AM
I have the Onkyo HTS-790 7.1.. It rocks..
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Onkyo-Home-Theater-System-HT-S790/sem/rpsm/oid/148967/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

Here is a good description of Pro and Pro 2.. It does appear it is true surround, but not DTS. I just use it for music.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Pro_Logic

From what I can see it does support DTS. But only through the DVD player I would guess. Since you don't have any digital inputs....

btw i have a question, does that onkyo give sound like in theathers? like u know very crisp etc.. ? and how do u have it hooked?(what cable)

i would sell my ss for the onko but im not sure where i would sell it(online not an option)

nyboy11
12-12-2006, 06:51 AM
bump

nuttyinnyc
12-12-2006, 09:23 AM
btw i have a question, does that onkyo give sound like in theathers? like u know very crisp etc.. ? and how do u have it hooked?(what cable)

i would sell my ss for the onko but im not sure where i would sell it(online not an option)
The Onkyo only sounds as good as the speakers he has. However, the Onkyo HTiB speakers sound pretty good. My friend has it and he doesn't need to turn up the volume that much because it sounds that good.
Some companies make good quality HTiBs some don't, but there is nothing that could sound better then buying everything individually. That would get you the best possible sound but you really have to do your research to make sure you do it right and it will cost a lot more.