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Hdmi?

MitchieA
11-26-2006, 09:40 AM
I'm in the market for a progressive scan DVD player and am wondering whether I should pony up the extra bucks for a player with an HDMI output. I am still looking for an HDTV, but have my choices narrowed down to a panasonic 42" or a bravia 46"..

:thumbsup: Thanks

daleb
11-26-2006, 01:11 PM
Differences are not that great. Either get an Oppo Digital or Denon on loan or 30 day trial, and see if there is an improvement for you.
Otherwise any quality progressive scan player should work. Avoid the 'dirt cheap' models, stick with Sony, Panasonic.. etc. major brands.
Read the earlier posts on similar subjects. This one comes up almost every day.

PFC5
11-27-2006, 04:42 PM
I agree with Daleb.

Those two HDTVs are, I assume, LCD or plasma panels and therefore are a "Fixed Pixel Display" with ONE (native) resolution that it displays. This means that they convert (upscale) all signals/resolutions going into the HDTV to the "Native Resolution". So in essence, you are already getting an upscaler built into your HDTV instead of the DVD player.

The only way to see an improvement is if the electronics are better in the DVD player than they are in the HDTV. Most HDTVs have good scalers so the differnce is usually small.

Now some upscalers also provide better PQ even if you do not have them upscale the signal and just use the 480p output on the player because the higher end DVD players convert the MPEG2 data on SD DVDs better and send a purer signal to the HDTV even if the player does not do the upscaling. Sometimes you get what you pay for, but it depends on each individual DVD player as to how well it does it's job.

Hope this helps!

MitchieA
11-28-2006, 09:02 AM
hey guys,

So which progressive scan DVD player do you guys recommend? I've always had good luck with Panny products and CR lists the Panasonic DVD-S27 and Panasonic DVD-S29 as the among best prog scan players but they appear to be older models that aren't actually available anymore. :confused:

PFC5
11-28-2006, 11:53 AM
Panasonic has this strange idea about changing models way too fast. By the time you know about a model being good it is no longer available.

I do not think those models are that great and CR is not very knowledgeable with HT gear. Now the S77 or S97 are great models from what I have read, but they cost $200-300.00 and are also very hard to find. At least locally.

Figure to get a GOOD/decent player you will have to spend $100.00+ for it. The Oppo would be my first choice for you. Look at the 970H model for the most bang for the buck, and there are no macroblocking issues with it. They have great support too.

MitchieA
11-28-2006, 01:58 PM
PFC5,

What does HT stand for?

Also, I was hoping to avoid an upconverting player since other posters said that the upconverters built into most HDs are superior. Do you think a good progressive scan DVD player can be had for < $100?

Thanks!:)

daleb
11-28-2006, 02:12 PM
PFC5,

What does HT stand for?

Also, I was hoping to avoid an upconverting player since other posters said that the upconverters built into most HDs are superior. Do you think a good progressive scan DVD player can be had for < $100?

Thanks!:)

Sony makes some that sell that cheap. As said, stick with a major brand name. I think my Sony 575 was on sale for $85. Nice player, no HDMI.

MitchieA
11-28-2006, 07:20 PM
Daleb,

Thanks!

PFC5
11-28-2006, 08:25 PM
HT=Home Theater