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AT9 + H20 = HD Locals + NO Sats 99 and 103

Jamesflames
08-12-2006, 02:21 PM
Yesterday I upgraded to the at9 dish and a H20 receiver. I had great signal (low 90s) on the 3 original sats but no signal on 99 or 103. We checked to make sure 5-lnb was selected and 6x8 switch was selected as we're using the Zinwell WB6B multiswitch. Sats 99 and 103 still fail. He goes out and re-checks all connections (compression fitted) and re-adjusts the dish. Same results. It was getting late so he offered to come back on his own time today.

I also got a 10-250 so I was setting that up and then got back to the H20. I check my channels and I have two channel 3s and two channel 30s. Those are the CBS and NBC channels that D* provides in mpeg4. I re-ran the guided step to see if either 99 or 103 would scan but neither did. Still had HD channels though. Checked transponders and a handful scanned on both 99 and 103. Both sats still fail when scanned.

Today I ran a cable directly to the H20 instead of using the multiswitch. Checked transponders 12 and 25 on 103 and they come in briefly and then disappear. Weird because 12 goes from 94 signal to nothing in a flash. But if I go to 13 and back to 12 sometimes it locks in. With all the bugs reported with the H20s I'm not sure if it's an installation problem or a problem with the receiver.

The H20 is a 100 series manufactured on 04/06. I never hooked up a phone line so it should be in a virgin state. I'm wondering it hooking up a phone line to it and letting it upgrade will help or make things worse.

lwilli201
08-12-2006, 03:33 PM
1. You said that 2 HD locals showed up on the guide. Do you get vidio on those channels.

2. Where are you located.

You will only get locals on one of the sats, 99 or 103. If your locals just came online, they are probably from 99. You will not have any programming from 103. You may be picking up spot beams from adjacent areas, which maybe why they come and go.

Jamesflames
08-12-2006, 04:22 PM
I'm in CT. The only mpeg4 locals D* offers in CT are CBS and NBC. I get both picture and sound from those two channels. I believe the guide says the channels come from West Hartford so I don't believe it's a spot beam thing. I do get some transponders from 99 and 103 so maybe one of those transponders is sending the locals to me. Wish I were more familiar with the AT9 so I could try tweaking myself but all those dials are intimidating.

rbinck
08-12-2006, 06:26 PM
Did he hook up the in line converter? It is required for the 103 signals. The 99 satellite is not in service yet, so don't expect a signal on that one.

If you got a good signal on the 101, 110 and 119 then the dish is aligned fine.

trhacker
08-12-2006, 06:43 PM
Did he hook up the in line converter? It is required for the 103 signals. The 99 satellite is not in service yet, so don't expect a signal on that one.

If you got a good signal on the 101, 110 and 119 then the dish is aligned fine.
What is the in line converter and would you not just get 103 with a good strong signal on 101 and 119? I know when I hooked up my 3lnb and then the 5lnb once I had 101 and 119 strong 110 was always there....so should 103 not just be there also?

lwilli201
08-12-2006, 06:56 PM
Did he hook up the in line converter? It is required for the 103 signals. The 99 satellite is not in service yet, so don't expect a signal on that one.



99 has been active since April. I get the Kansas City HD locals from it.

rbinck
08-12-2006, 07:19 PM
99 has been active since April. I get the Kansas City HD locals from it.
My bad. Still if he is not in the spot beam for an active channel, he may not get a signal. Either way, the B-band converter is required.

B-Band Converter: The H20 receiver includes the SUP-2400 B-Band Converter, which must be installed on the receiver. It has a threaded male F connector, and should be connected to the Satellite In coaxial jack on the back of the receiver. The converter also has a female coaxial input to receive the signal from the satellite dish. This converter up-converts the satellite signal transmitted in the Ka-band (250-750 MHz) into a 1650-2150 MHz useable signal.

Jamesflames
08-14-2006, 09:19 AM
Okay, here's what happened. The installer is local and planned to come back the next day. Before he arrived my H20 recognized the 103. He brought a new receiver with him. We hooked it up and it didn't recognize the 103. We hooked up my original H20 and it recognized the 103 again. Seems to be a malfunction with the receivers. Both were 100 series H20s. Manufacture dates are 04/06 and 05/06. The converter box was used throughout.

rbinck
08-14-2006, 10:25 AM
So are you watching HD now?

Jamesflames
08-15-2006, 01:14 PM
Yes, I'm watching HD now. It was a complicated mess. My HD tv was in the process of in-home repair (multiple trips here) so we checked the H20 with a SD set. So we checked for sat 103 and it failed. Now we're wondering if the HD locals were there even though setup said it failed. We think it's a software that most likely is corrected over time with D*'s latest upgrade. Either way HD locals are there so I'm pretty happy now.

mnylen
08-15-2006, 01:28 PM
If I connect an H20 and the HD DVR I need 3 coax cables if I want to use dual tuners of the HD DVR, am I correct. Am in CT and have an instal for mid september.

Jamesflames
08-15-2006, 11:50 PM
that is correct.