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Toshiba 34hfx84 vs. Sony 34xbr960

Bear1
11-30-2004, 11:52 PM
I have narrowed my search to these two models (sorry for the double posting). I'm aware that the Sony has a built in tuner and other options that the Toshiba doesn't.

Does anyone know how the Sony superfine pitch compares with the Toshiba? I watch more dvd's than TV and picture quality and sound is important to me.

Is the 3D digital comb filter in the Sony different than the 3D Y/C filter in Toshiba? Are they both digital comb filters?

I don 't know if there is anything else I should be comparing between the two.

I can't find these 2 TV's together so it's hard to tell. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks!!!

ja2935
12-01-2004, 07:25 AM
I have the Toshiba 34hf84 which I believe has the same tube as the hfx model but lacks some menu options and a second HDMI. I too bought it initially for watching DVDs and have yet to see anything in HD on it. I calibrated the Preferences mode using settings from someone elses attempts with the Avia disc. I have a Toshiba DS4900 DVD player with component cables. Generally I am very pleased with the performance, especially with good quality anamorphic DVDs (enhanced for widescreen TVs). For DVD viewing the TV can be set to either 520p or 1080i but I can't tell any difference. The picture with SD DirectTV and antenna is better than I had expected and compares very favourably with my SD Sony 27"Vega. At first I thought it worse but quickly realized that the TV highlights the low resolution material on some channels - it has also taken me a while to get used to the slight stretching to fill the screen with 4:3 material, however now I have got used to using the right Theatre Modes and would not go back to a 4:3 TV. I chose the Toshiba over the Sony because of size restraints but also did a lot of on-line research reading reviews etc. Here's a BB you might like to read http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=2394753#post2394753 I gave up trying to compare TVs in stores because they are usually set up so poorly as to not be representative. Here's asomething else you might like to read although it deals with older model TVs http://www.hometheatermag.com/directviewandplasmatvs/148/
Good luck choosing!

Bear1
12-02-2004, 01:55 PM
thanks for the info and the great links! They were very helpful. Looks like I'm going with the Toshiba. It's more reasonably priced and I'm still getting a high quality image and I know the two HDMI inputs will come in handy!!!

HDCowboy
12-05-2004, 11:30 PM
My only suggestion is that you purchase from a store with a liberal return or exchange policy.... Just in case....

Really a great tv for the money though. HD is awsome.. :)

Bear1
12-07-2004, 08:42 AM
I bought the Toshiba from Crutchfield which has very good customer service and they had a promo for the free matching stand that was something I wanted as well. I'll let you know once I get everything in and hooked up.

Bear1
12-21-2004, 09:36 AM
Well everything is hooked up and I like what I see. I receive HD from my local cable using their box and it is a great picture. I'm using the component cables provided by the cable company but I plan on buying a set of monster cables. ESPN HD is great and I can't wait for bowl week!!!

I have the tv hooked up to a Toshiba Dr-2 using monster component cables and it is a great image and the sound is amazing when it is working properly (see next paragraph)! I have never seen so much detail from the DVD's before. I have it set on theater 1 and like the movie mode settings for DVD's.

I hope someone can help with a possible sound issue. I wached Lord of the Rings (2 Towers) and the volume of the voices fluctuated from audible to nearly inaudible while all other sounds remained consistant. I have only experienced this with the DVD and not while watching tv. Would it help to replace the standard audio cables with some monster audio cables?

Also, I'm thinking of adding a theater system. Any suggestions? I would like to keep it in the $400 - $500 price range and I don't think I need the DVD player. Not sure if I should go 5.1 or 6.1 or if there is any real difference. I'm not sure what connections I should be looking for either. I read Onkyo makes good systems but there are so many choices. Please help!!!

PSzalapski
12-21-2004, 10:04 AM
Well everything is hooked up and I like what I see. I receive HD from my local cable using their box and it is a great picture. I'm using the component cables provided by the cable company but I plan on buying a set of monster cables. ESPN HD is great and I can't wait for bowl week!!!

I have the tv hooked up to a Toshiba Dr-2 using monster component cables and it is a great image and the sound is amazing when it is working properly (see next paragraph)! I have never seen so much detail from the DVD's before. I have it set on theater 1 and like the movie mode settings for DVD's.

I hope someone can help with a possible sound issue. I wached Lord of the Rings (2 Towers) and the volume of the voices fluctuated from audible to nearly inaudible while all other sounds remained consistant. I have only experienced this with the DVD and not while watching tv. Would it help to replace the standard audio cables with some monster audio cables?

Also, I'm thinking of adding a theater system. Any suggestions? I would like to keep it in the $400 - $500 price range and I don't think I need the DVD player. Not sure if I should go 5.1 or 6.1 or if there is any real difference. I'm not sure what connections I should be looking for either. I read Onkyo makes good systems but there are so many choices. Please help!!!


Is that $500 including the purchase of 6 speakers? If so, that's tough to do. If you're just talking about the receiver, I've been pleased with my Yamaha receiver. They have a full line but they all are similar--just differences in power, inputs, and outputs.

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/receivers/RXV_series.htm

If you were looking for $500 including speakers, please DON'T buy a "home theater in a box". Get a $250 receiver and two floor/shelf 3-way or 4-way speakers (with a woofer in each - no 4-inch satellites), then add more speakers (for the rear) as you can.

P-Sz

Xplorer
12-21-2004, 10:25 AM
Bear1
read your manuals (TV,DVD) concerning "Fixed & Variable" Audio

suggest you be careful with the packaging when opening your expensive
cables, and then if/when you do or don't see a diff in Audio/Picture quality
you will be able to return them...;)

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-XbuFdGn4GGQ/cgi-bin/Prodview.asp?c=14&g=135100&I=580HTS770&s=0&cc=01

this seems to be a very nice system for the price ($449)

good luck to ya
:)

Bear1
12-22-2004, 09:11 AM
Thanks for the info. I'll check out the audio manual again and be carefull with the packaging. I was originally looking at home theater systems in a box. They seemded pretty straight forward and reasonably priced. Are there any HT in a box systems that are good?

Any thoughts on HDMI inputs vs. component. I was at the Good Guys looking at HT systems and the salesman told me HDMI inputs for home theater receivers were right around the corner. He also said it would be worth getting a DVD palyer w/ an HDMI input (my DR-2 doesn't have one). Any thoughts?

PSzalapski
12-22-2004, 10:49 AM
Thanks for the info. I'll check out the audio manual again and be carefull with the packaging. I was originally looking at home theater systems in a box. They seemded pretty straight forward and reasonably priced. Are there any HT in a box systems that are good?


My thought is that no small speaker can compare to a large speaker. You just cannot defy the laws of physics. Now if there is some reason you want a small speaker (aesthetics, available space, etc.), that's a compromise you could make. However, if price and quality are the only concerns, I would never buy small speakers.

You may hear small speakers and think them okay, but you really need to hear them together with large speakers.

I believe this is one example you can test for yourself. If you don't have a small-speaker home setup, you may have a satellite-subwoofer combo for your computer. If yours is a decent one, you can do this test. Computer speakers are similar to small home audio speakers. Buy or borrow a component receiver and two three- or four-way speakers with an 8-inch or bigger woofer, play an audio CD through them, and then also through the small speakers at the same volume and listening distance. You will notice, I believe, a big difference and appreciate the large speakers so much more.

This really can't be done at a store--the listening conditions just aren't similar enough.

Audiophiles will separate the receiver into preamp and amplifier, because a standalone amp can usually do a better job than the amplifiers in home receivers. However, we are not audiophiles and we would rather pay off debt, pay down our second mortgage or send the kids to college than spend thousands on our audio setup.


Any thoughts on HDMI inputs vs. component. I was at the Good Guys looking at HT systems and the salesman told me HDMI inputs for home theater receivers were right around the corner. He also said it would be worth getting a DVD palyer w/ an HDMI input (my DR-2 doesn't have one). Any thoughts?
Wouldn't you want a HDMI output on the DVD player? And HDMI inputs on the receiver (which I've never seen) doesn't make much sense--that's what SPDIF/optical ports are for.
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HDMI-out on a DVD player might make sense, though I don't see much difference in quality. Component video and optical audio will be available for a long time. It would be nice, though, in the future, if every digital home audio/video interface was HDMI. I'd like to see nothing but RCA L/R for analog audio and HDMI connectors for everything else on the the back of all my gear. That'll take awhile.