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Removed my side-speakers on my SXRD 50"!!!

CraterGrillo
07-09-2006, 11:31 AM
Well, I did it.

I've been complaining about my side-pod speakers on and off since I got this great set.

So I was wondering... How difficult could it be to simply remove them? CUT THEM OFF!

So today I unscrewed the rear of the speakers, it simply forms an enclosure that has a small bass-port. From the inside I could see that there are simply 2 small speakers with 1 small set of speaker wires. Nothing structural here. Nothing I wasn't expecting - just plastic.

I used my dremel with a cutoff wheel (and safety glasses!). I was able to do nice cuts in the front, and then using a small hack-saw, remove the sidepods. I put the edge maybe 3/8" away from the screen casing edge (there will be a small area that sticks out, but I covered that later to hide it). The plastic cuts easily, just be careful not to scratch any of the screen or case outside where you're cutting!

After cutting, I took a sanding wheel and removed the edges (the plastic tends to melt as you're cutting, so it leaves a rough edge).

Then I took some electrical tape and covered the areas. I may dress up the area later a bit more with something else (any ideas?).

NOW I can put my speakers where I want them, and the entertainment center just fits better. I have a picture that will show how it came out.

How long did it take? Including cleanup, less than 1 hour. That's not even a NORMAL 5 minute job (which usually takes hours). :p

My wife loves it. I love it. It looks 10x better.

So for you others that didn't want to be the first... If it bothers you, go for it (all disclaimers apply - you trash your $3500 set, don't be cryin' to me!).

WOOHOO!!

BuTal63
07-09-2006, 11:58 AM
you deserve the Television Modification Award of Bravery for 2006.

You have a shot at a new profession. You know those guys who go around the country doing professional in-home HDTV calibrations? Well, you could do the same thing as a professional Sony Dumbo Ears Terminator. Beellions and beellions of SXRD owners would be doing this to you: :bowdown:

Nice going!

Hey, one more thing - send those pictures to Sony (after your warranty expires of course) and show them what the XBR's should have looked like all along!!!

CraterGrillo
07-09-2006, 12:04 PM
you deserve the Television Modification Award of Bravery for 2006.

You have a shot at a new profession. You know those guys who go around the country doing professional in-home HDTV calibrations? Well, you could do the same thing as a professional Sony Dumbo Ears Terminator. Beellions and beellions of SXRD owners would be doing this to you: :bowdown:

Nice going!

Hey, one more thing - send those pictures to Sony (after your warranty expires of course) and show them what the XBR's should have looked like all along!!!

Thanks - I figured SOMEONE would appreciate my tenacity (or lack of sense - whatever).

I was simply surprised at how simple it was.

My biggest concern was that the plastic would be super-hard and brittle, and that a cutting instrument would vibrate the screen and somehow mess up the innards. But the plastic cut like the proverbial butter.

Maybe I'll post it over on the avsforum...

BuTal63
07-09-2006, 12:07 PM
For some time, a few folks over there had mentioned doing this with a dremel or similar tool. I haven't followed the owner's thread for a while, but to the best of my knowledge no one had the guts to try it before you.

CraterGrillo
07-09-2006, 12:12 PM
For some time, a few folks over there had mentioned doing this with a dremel or similar tool. I haven't followed the owner's thread for a while, but to the best of my knowledge no one had the guts to try it before you.

I actually couldn't figure out the proper way to "post" in the owners thread, so I simply posted in the rear projection area. I'll just create a reply and link to it from the owners thread I guess..

CraterGrillo
07-09-2006, 12:31 PM
you deserve the Television Modification Award of Bravery for 2006.

You have a shot at a new profession. You know those guys who go around the country doing professional in-home HDTV calibrations? Well, you could do the same thing as a professional Sony Dumbo Ears Terminator. Beellions and beellions of SXRD owners would be doing this to you: :bowdown:

Nice going!

Hey, one more thing - send those pictures to Sony (after your warranty expires of course) and show them what the XBR's should have looked like all along!!!

Over in the AVS forum the first few responses I got indicated that I voided my warrantee.

I guess if I do have a problem, I'd have to make the argument that the modification was purely "cosmetic" (which is basically true).

I guess I'll throw out this concern here in case others decide to attempt this - be aware that this may in fact have implications on your warrantee!

CraterGrillo
07-09-2006, 01:48 PM
Update -

After tweaking aesthetically it looks even better now. I used black electrical tape to cover the silver along the side and across the top. (in the pics, due to the flash, it doesn't look that great - but in reality it's extremely hard to see the tape at all). Having the black across the top blends the screen frame with the case.

It looks fantastic to about 6" away, and the whole frame is now BLACK (the way it should have been from the beginning.

bboncorr
07-09-2006, 02:15 PM
sony is know for being tough on there customers with there warranty so you should know your warranty is pretty much void no matter what you argue. but i applaud you :yippee: in taking such initiative. i was getting sick of hearing people complain about the sxrd speakers and doing nothing about it. now they cant complain and i can link this thread to show them why they cant.

for the record though i love these speakers. they give the tv a different look that stands out. its like the center piece of the room that catches the eye. but if i had problems like placement issues caused by those speakers i would be just like you and hack them off with whatever i could find to get the job done.

congrats and enjoy.

CraterGrillo
07-09-2006, 02:47 PM
sony is know for being tough on there customers with there warranty so you should know your warranty is pretty much void no matter what you argue. but i applaud you :yippee: in taking such initiative. i was getting sick of hearing people complain about the sxrd speakers and doing nothing about it. now they cant complain and i can link this thread to show them why they cant.

for the record though i love these speakers. they give the tv a different look that stands out. its like the center piece of the room that catches the eye. but if i had problems like placement issues caused by those speakers i would be just like you and hack them off with whatever i could find to get the job done.

congrats and enjoy.

I think I'm just fine with the warrantee issue. I've had the set for 6 months, and it's just fine. I figure at this point I'm likely to have bulb issues which aren't covered anyway. More importantly, my wife "authorized" the adjustment (actually she encouraged me to do it because it looked so strange before). So no matter what happens, I think I'll be just fine. ;)

But the change in the look is just tremendous.

And I will enjoy, thanks.

BuTal63
07-09-2006, 04:32 PM
I think I'm just fine with the warrantee issue. I've had the set for 6 months, and it's just fine. I figure at this point I'm likely to have bulb issues which aren't covered anyway. More importantly, my wife "authorized" the adjustment (actually she encouraged me to do it because it looked so strange before). So no matter what happens, I think I'll be just fine. ;)

But the change in the look is just tremendous.

And I will enjoy, thanks.

I basically agree with bbon, although I really like what you've done, but I could live with the speakers if I had to. From a practical standpoint though, it just irks me that I could get a 70" SXRD with speakers removed (which will be do-able on the new 70XBR2) into nearly the same space as the 60XBR1 or XBR2.

Re your lamp, that should be covered by Sony for the full 1 year warranty period. Even though you've modified the set, lamp exchanges can usually be done by phone without a service call. So you should be OK if the lamp pops. The XBR1 lamps have been notably reliable though.

I just pray you don't develop any of the color uniformity issues plaguing quite a few other SXRD owners. Sony is getting so many complaints about this that I'm sure they'll do whatever they can to avoid dealing with the issue.

Just curious if you've noticed any audio problems, ac hum, or other freaky behavior in your home theater a/v setup since you did the surgery?

CraterGrillo
07-09-2006, 05:03 PM
I basically agree with bbon, although I really like what you've done, but I could live with the speakers if I had to. From a practical standpoint though, it just irks me that I could get a 70" SXRD with speakers removed (which will be do-able on the new 70XBR2) into nearly the same space as the 60XBR1 or XBR2.

Re your lamp, that should be covered by Sony for the full 1 year warranty period. Even though you've modified the set, lamp exchanges can usually be done by phone without a service call. So you should be OK if the lamp pops. The XBR1 lamps have been notably reliable though.

I just pray you don't develop any of the color uniformity issues plaguing quite a few other SXRD owners. Sony is getting so many complaints about this that I'm sure they'll do whatever they can to avoid dealing with the issue.

Just curious if you've noticed any audio problems, ac hum, or other freaky behavior in your home theater a/v setup since you did the surgery?

As far as audio or video problems, none. Of course I simply clipped the wires where they enter the main set (leaving 1" tail just in case, and then pushing all but 1/8" in).

What makes you think there might be some interaction?

FLhd
07-11-2006, 09:19 AM
amazing man, i get people all the time at the store that want to cut the speakers off and today i have actually seen one modified, you got some balls man.

CraterGrillo
07-11-2006, 09:23 AM
amazing man, i get people all the time at the store that want to cut the speakers off and today i have actually seen one modified, you got some balls man.

more balls than brains apparently, if you read what the folks on avsforum think!!!

thanks... :p :p :p

I'll have more pics up tonight, after I smooth out the upper corners and clean it up...

Conshy04
07-11-2006, 12:58 PM
Well, I did it.

I've been complaining about my side-pod speakers on and off since I got this great set.

So I was wondering... How difficult could it be to simply remove them? CUT THEM OFF!


WOOHOO!!

There goes my hero....Watch him as he goes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I opted for the Sammy HLS instead of Sony because I could not fit the Sony in my corner because of those damn speakers.....

BuTal63
07-11-2006, 02:53 PM
As far as audio or video problems, none. Of course I simply clipped the wires where they enter the main set (leaving 1" tail just in case, and then pushing all but 1/8" in).

What makes you think there might be some interaction?

I guess I'm living in the past. "In the olden times" you could do nasty things to components such as the audio amplifier circuitry/transformer in the TV by operating it without the proper speakers attached, because you would have removed the load from the amp - could burn stuff up. Where there was an on/off switch in the circuit for the speakers, in the off position it usually switched a "dummy" load into the amp circuit to compensate. Also, just having unconnected wires could sometimes cause ac hum.

I guess I don't have a clue what's going on with such circuits today.

Anyway hero, remember my suggestion above: "Professional Dumbo Ears Terminator!" Or whatever. You'll ca$h in bigtime. :D

Looking forward to more pix.

stchman
07-11-2006, 03:16 PM
Well, I did it.

I've been complaining about my side-pod speakers on and off since I got this great set.

So I was wondering... How difficult could it be to simply remove them? CUT THEM OFF!

So today I unscrewed the rear of the speakers, it simply forms an enclosure that has a small bass-port. From the inside I could see that there are simply 2 small speakers with 1 small set of speaker wires. Nothing structural here. Nothing I wasn't expecting - just plastic.

I used my dremel with a cutoff wheel (and safety glasses!). I was able to do nice cuts in the front, and then using a small hack-saw, remove the sidepods. I put the edge maybe 3/8" away from the screen casing edge (there will be a small area that sticks out, but I covered that later to hide it). The plastic cuts easily, just be careful not to scratch any of the screen or case outside where you're cutting!

After cutting, I took a sanding wheel and removed the edges (the plastic tends to melt as you're cutting, so it leaves a rough edge).

Then I took some electrical tape and covered the areas. I may dress up the area later a bit more with something else (any ideas?).

NOW I can put my speakers where I want them, and the entertainment center just fits better. I have a picture that will show how it came out.

How long did it take? Including cleanup, less than 1 hour. That's not even a NORMAL 5 minute job (which usually takes hours). :p

My wife loves it. I love it. It looks 10x better.

So for you others that didn't want to be the first... If it bothers you, go for it (all disclaimers apply - you trash your $3500 set, don't be cryin' to me!).

WOOHOO!!
I dont find the speakers that hideous to hack on a $3500 TV. So you dont have any more sund from your TV? I guess you just use a receiver.

CraterGrillo
07-11-2006, 04:00 PM
I dont find the speakers that hideous to hack on a $3500 TV. So you dont have any more sund from your TV? I guess you just use a receiver.

I haven't ever turned on the sound on the TV.

Most people buying sets this expensive have a HT audio system.

Besides, if I didn't have a HT audio system, I wouldn't have had the big speakers that were causing a problem with the side-pods. In that case I certainly would have kept the speakers.

CraterGrillo
07-11-2006, 05:28 PM
Here are the new pics after removing more of the top corners:

ImRizzo
07-11-2006, 06:35 PM
Not bad and I guess with some modeling supplies you could fine finish the edges and paint them to match after all it is a plastic material correct ? Nice job....

CraterGrillo
07-11-2006, 06:56 PM
Not bad and I guess with some modeling supplies you could fine finish the edges and paint them to match after all it is a plastic material correct ? Nice job....

Thanks.

In the normal room environment you wouldn't know it has been modified at all, so I'm pretty happy.

ImRizzo
07-12-2006, 05:54 AM
Thanks.

In the normal room environment you wouldn't know it has been modified at all, so I'm pretty happy.
You should post a picture of the final product in the HDTV Forum Gallery for all to enjoy and possibly attempt similar surgery

CraterGrillo
07-12-2006, 06:05 AM
You should post a picture of the final product in the HDTV Forum Gallery for all to enjoy and possibly attempt similar surgery

Maybe I'll do that tonight - thanks.

pjp
03-11-2007, 10:01 AM
I think I'm just fine with the warrantee issue. I've had the set for 6 months, and it's just fine. I figure at this point I'm likely to have bulb issues which aren't covered anyway. More importantly, my wife "authorized" the adjustment (actually she encouraged me to do it because it looked so strange before). So no matter what happens, I think I'll be just fine. ;)

But the change in the look is just tremendous.

And I will enjoy, thanks.

If you have to replace the O.B. (optical block) , I doubt the repair tech will care (that you did a case mod).

Outofmymind67
03-11-2007, 09:05 PM
Not sure why you ever paid so much for a TV that you didn't like the appearance of to begin with or didn't fit well in your room? If you hated the speakers so much, why didn't you buy a different Model or a completely different TV? I rarely use the speakers on my set, but when I do, they sound terrific and I think it looks great. Everyone's personal preference is different, which is quite obvious. That beautiful black bezel and electrical tape. YIKES! Not a good look! I'm most certain you voided the warranty. I'm afraid your hatchet job is going to end up costing you big in the future. Just my opinion.