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Sony's new SXRD HDTVs

MadCaliban
06-01-2006, 06:46 PM
LOS ANGELES, June 1, 2006 – Strengthening its leadership in the microdisplay market, Sony Electronics today introduced five full 1920 x 1080 high-definition Grand WEGA™ rear projection models based on its acclaimed Silicon X-tal (Crystal) Reflective Display (SXRD™) technology.

The new SXRD models feature 1920 x 1080 resolution, HDMI™ inputs with 1080p capability and range in screen sizes from 50 to 70 inches.

"Thanks to outstanding picture quality and overall performance, the response to our SXRD Grand WEGA TVs has been nothing short of phenomenal" said Randy Waynick, senior vice president of the Home Products Division for Sony Electronics. "We expect the new line-up to keep up the positive momentum by offering greater flexibility, deeper features and incredible picture quality."

SXRD XBR Line

Sony's SXRD XBR® line features two new models that represent the pinnacle of performance. The 70-inch KDS-R70XBR2 and 60-inch KDS-R60XBR2 benefit from the refinements of Sony's three 0.61-inch SXRD chips (one each for red, green and blue color reproduction), delivering more than 2 million native pixels (1920 X 1080) for a full high-definition picture.

Video signal process enhancements include Sony's WEGA Engine HD™ system and Digital Reality Creation® Multi Function Version Two Point Five (DRC-MFv2.5), high resolution video processing technology which provides crisp and clear pictures. This technology enables the digital mapping of not only conventional NTSC sources, but also 1080i HD signals.

Working with Sony's Cinema Black Pro mode, the sets deliver up to 10,000:1 contrast based on overall light levels of the original signal.

The new models are digital cable-ready with an integrated CableCARD™ slot and TV Guide® on screen program guide. Other features include two HDMI inputs with 1080p capability, front HDMI HDV camcorder connection, and a PC input. The XBR models feature side speakers, which are removable on the KDS-R70XBR2 model.

The KDS-R70XBR2 and KDS-R60XBR2 units will ship in early fall and be available for about $7,800 and $5,300, respectively.

SXRD A2000 Line

Offering 60-, 55- and 50-inch models, Sony's new A2000 line delivers outstanding SXRD picture quality and a new compact, bottom speaker cabinet design. The KDS-60A2000, KDS-55A2000 and KDS-50A2000 models feature the WEGA Engine system and the same 0.61-inch SXRD chips found in the XBR line, as well as such picture technologies as Cinema Black Pro that delivers a contrast of up to 10,000:1 based on overall light levels of the original source. The line also offers two HDMI inputs with 1080p capability and a front component input for HDV camcorder and PC input.

The KDS-60A2000, KDS-55A2000, and KDS-50A2000 models ship this summer for about $4,500, $4,000, and $3,500, respectively.

http://news.sel.sony.com/images/medium/consumer/television/microdisplay/sxrd_grand_wega/KDS_55A2000_med.jpg 55" SXRD
Weight (Approx.): 83lbs 14oz (38kg)
Dimensions (Approx)(WxHxD): 50.9" x 35.9" x 18.9" (1292 x 913 x 480mm)

eurton18
06-01-2006, 06:59 PM
Now I may actually look at getting one of these. Was hoping the price would be a little lower though. :yippee:

MadCaliban
06-01-2006, 07:02 PM
as you can see...no more dumbo ears!

Orient Express
06-01-2006, 07:41 PM
for $3200, and it is one heck of a television.

http://www.gjlenterprise.com/hdtv.jpg

It looks like this years version, the KDSR60-XBR2 is essentially the same TV only with a front mounted HDMI connector, and is $5300.

For me, there is not $2100 worth of improvement in the new model. The picture on the 1st generation model is fantastic. If you are considering one of these TVs, now is the time to buy one of the closeout models. You won't be sorry!:thumbsup:

hdrichtv
06-02-2006, 05:27 AM
as you can see...no more dumbo ears!

The statement "dumbo ears" is usually people who don't own the SXRD parroting each other, but do not understand that the central concept of stereo is the SEPARATION of speakers. Also, this separation enhances the simulated surround sound mode, which works very nicely on the SXRD. In addition, the speakers frame the set quite well, especially if you buy a matching stand.

hdrichtv
06-02-2006, 05:30 AM
as you can see...no more dumbo ears!

The statement "dumbo ears" is usually people who don't own the SXRD parroting each other, but do not understand that the central concept of stereo is the SEPARATION of speakers. Also, this separation enhances the simulated surround sound mode, which works very nicely on the SXRD. In addition, the speakers frame the set quite well, especially if you buy a matching stand.

MadCaliban
06-02-2006, 07:48 AM
heh. i have the 50" and i call 'em dumbo ears....out of love. anyway, like most ppl who buy this size of teevees, i turn off the tv speakers and use my surround instead. i get the purpose of the speakers, i just don't like it coz they flare out.

FloydV
06-02-2006, 09:32 AM
What is the difference between a SXRD that is an XBR and one that is not? Please.

Edit to add: Is there anyway we can know yet if there is any improvement in the impurity issue?

HiImdrummer03
06-02-2006, 10:26 PM
What is the difference between a SXRD that is an XBR and one that is not? Please.

Edit to add: Is there anyway we can know yet if there is any improvement in the impurity issue?
THE XBR and A2000 are SXRD.Its the technology in them that gives you 10,000:1 contrast and 1920x1080.

bboncorr
06-03-2006, 03:18 PM
The statement "dumbo ears" is usually people who don't own the SXRD parroting each other, but do not understand that the central concept of stereo is the SEPARATION of speakers. Also, this separation enhances the simulated surround sound mode, which works very nicely on the SXRD. In addition, the speakers frame the set quite well, especially if you buy a matching stand.

i also am impressed with how well this tv handles the simulated s.s. at least considering there tv speakers. there have even been times me and my girl thought my rear s.s. speakers were on. this tvs shape is an attention grabber because of the shape. its not like any tv out there. when people come over they say " wow that a great looking tv" then i turn it on and they start plotting how to sneak it out of my house. good think i bought renters insurance that same day.

ADWyatt
06-04-2006, 10:06 AM
Orient Express--

Okay, I'll grab the bait. Where did you find the Sony 60" SXRD for $3,200? Did you buy a new model, or a demo? Assuming you didn't get it at an employee-discount rate, I'd be interested in finding where I might be able to make such a purchase. The lowest I've found it is for more than $3,600 during a one-week sale at Best Buy.

However, I have noted that Sony's 3LCD 55" TV is on sale at OneCall for $1,799, including shipping. Selling my old TV for $700 and buying a stand for about $400 would leave me with a final price of around $1,500. Hmmm..... Using this TV with my Toshiba HD-DVD player for the next three years, until SED or its equivalent become available and hi-def DVD becomes stabilized, looks tempting to me.

But be brutal. There's no way this inexpensive setup is going to compare with SXRD. While the 3LCD looked good in the store, how badly am I going to suffer if I commit to this? How good will my X-Box 360, for instance, look on the 3LCD compared to the soft picture I'm getting now from my old CRT hi-def set? Do you think HD-DVD will look better with such a setup? I'm asking, because I can't get a demo of these peripherals at the store. Thanks for all advice.

hdrichtv
06-04-2006, 12:16 PM
LOS ANGELES, June 1, 2006 – Strengthening its leadership in the microdisplay market, Sony Electronics today introduced five full 1920 x 1080 high-definition Grand WEGA™ rear projection models based on its acclaimed Silicon X-tal (Crystal) Reflective Display (SXRD™) technology.

The new SXRD models feature 1920 x 1080 resolution, HDMI™ inputs with 1080p capability and range in screen sizes from 50 to 70 inches.

"Thanks to outstanding picture quality and overall performance, the response to our SXRD Grand WEGA TVs has been nothing short of phenomenal" said Randy Waynick, senior vice president of the Home Products Division for Sony Electronics. "We expect the new line-up to keep up the positive momentum by offering greater flexibility, deeper features and incredible picture quality."

SXRD XBR Line

Sony's SXRD XBR® line features two new models that represent the pinnacle of performance. The 70-inch KDS-R70XBR2 and 60-inch KDS-R60XBR2 benefit from the refinements of Sony's three 0.61-inch SXRD chips (one each for red, green and blue color reproduction), delivering more than 2 million native pixels (1920 X 1080) for a full high-definition picture.

Video signal process enhancements include Sony's WEGA Engine HD™ system and Digital Reality Creation® Multi Function Version Two Point Five (DRC-MFv2.5), high resolution video processing technology which provides crisp and clear pictures. This technology enables the digital mapping of not only conventional NTSC sources, but also 1080i HD signals.

Working with Sony's Cinema Black Pro mode, the sets deliver up to 10,000:1 contrast based on overall light levels of the original signal.

The new models are digital cable-ready with an integrated CableCARD™ slot and TV Guide® on screen program guide. Other features include two HDMI inputs with 1080p capability, front HDMI HDV camcorder connection, and a PC input. The XBR models feature side speakers, which are removable on the KDS-R70XBR2 model.

The KDS-R70XBR2 and KDS-R60XBR2 units will ship in early fall and be available for about $7,800 and $5,300, respectively.

SXRD A2000 Line

Offering 60-, 55- and 50-inch models, Sony's new A2000 line delivers outstanding SXRD picture quality and a new compact, bottom speaker cabinet design. The KDS-60A2000, KDS-55A2000 and KDS-50A2000 models feature the WEGA Engine system and the same 0.61-inch SXRD chips found in the XBR line, as well as such picture technologies as Cinema Black Pro that delivers a contrast of up to 10,000:1 based on overall light levels of the original source. The line also offers two HDMI inputs with 1080p capability and a front component input for HDV camcorder and PC input.

The KDS-60A2000, KDS-55A2000, and KDS-50A2000 models ship this summer for about $4,500, $4,000, and $3,500, respectively.

http://news.sel.sony.com/images/medium/consumer/television/microdisplay/sxrd_grand_wega/KDS_55A2000_med.jpg 55" SXRD
Weight (Approx.): 83lbs 14oz (38kg)
Dimensions (Approx)(WxHxD): 50.9" x 35.9" x 18.9" (1292 x 913 x 480mm)

Just as I predicted, the New SXRD flat panel was a myth, in fact, it's about an inch deeper.

Orient Express
06-04-2006, 04:10 PM
Orient Express--

Okay, I'll grab the bait. Where did you find the Sony 60" SXRD for $3,200?

Fry's in San Jose, new unopened stock. It was one of their One day only sales open to anyone with money.

Gotta be quick as the early bird gets the worm. I would expect further markdowns as the XBR2 model gets into the distribution channel.

Rew70
06-05-2006, 07:17 AM
i also am impressed with how well this tv handles the simulated s.s. at least considering there tv speakers. there have even been times me and my girl thought my rear s.s. speakers were on. this tvs shape is an attention grabber because of the shape. its not like any tv out there. when people come over they say " wow that a great looking tv" then i turn it on and they start plotting how to sneak it out of my house. good think i bought renters insurance that same day.

I've had mine since November and I don't mind the "Dumbo Ears" at all. I agree that it gives the TV a unique look that catches the eye and sets it apart from other sets. However one only needs to spend a few minutes watching this machine to see what really sets it apart from opther TVs. I think the SS simulation is very good for a TV and while I usually listen to the sound through my sound system, sometimes I just use the TV for sound and am not at all disappointed. This is a great set with which I have no regrets at all!

HiImdrummer03
06-05-2006, 08:04 PM
Just as I predicted, the New SXRD flat panel was a myth, in fact, it's about an inch deeper.
Wasnt a myth as they had one at the CES Show.Those are just concept models.Some of them actually make it to the market and some fail.

hdrichtv
06-06-2006, 10:50 AM
Wasnt a myth as they had one at the CES Show.Those are just concept models.Some of them actually make it to the market and some fail.

I guess it depends on how you define the word myth. If something is stated or presented, but never exists, then it is a myth.

myfirstsony
06-20-2006, 02:08 PM
I'm a newbie, the board is very helpful...quick question about the new Sony TV's...I see it says they will accept 1080p (via HDMI)...is this the input that will correspond with the output of the PS3 and the new Blu-Ray/HD DVD players? That is , will this TV be able to take full advantage of the PS3 / DVD players, video-wise?

Thanks much!

HiImdrummer03
06-20-2006, 08:21 PM
I guess it depends on how you define the word myth. If something is stated or presented, but never exists, then it is a myth.
It did ezist at CES.I would say its a prototype or concept.As in concept TV like concept car.

MadCaliban
06-21-2006, 08:03 AM
I'm a newbie, the board is very helpful...quick question about the new Sony TV's...I see it says they will accept 1080p (via HDMI)...is this the input that will correspond with the output of the PS3 and the new Blu-Ray/HD DVD players? That is , will this TV be able to take full advantage of the PS3 / DVD players, video-wise?

Thanks much!


Yes, these new SXRD will be HDMI 1080p compliant.

myfirstsony
06-21-2006, 10:15 AM
Thanks for the help...with the recent price drop of the Sony SXRD televisions, I became tempted again to buy this set...with the lack of 1080p input being the only drawback (and the price)...now with these new sets coming out, I'll have to revisit the whole 1080p input is-it-really-worth-it question. Good to know the new sets will have it though.
thanks again