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Hook Your Tv Up Right!!!!!!!

ScottyMacZ24
05-02-2006, 10:14 PM
Most people that post on this sight have a common problem.
-My expensive big screen's picture is crap.

The answer is simple. Hook your tv up correctly. Do not be cheap when a salesman offers you cables. I am not saying buy the most expensive cables, just buy the best connection possible for what you have. For example:

CABLE BOX: The best connection on most all cable boxes is an S-video connection.
SATTELITE RECIEVER: In most cases, same as above.
HD CABLE BOX: Either HDMI (best) DVI or component video (red,green,blue cable)
HD SATTELITE: Same as above.
DVD PLAYER: Component video.
HD UPCONVERTING PLAYER: HDMI or DVI
VCR: Basic yellow video.

Why spend thousands on a tv and then hook it up with basic cable?

hdrichtv
05-02-2006, 10:35 PM
Use HDMI throughput only; it is the latest in the evolution of connectons. If your HDTV doesn't have HDMI, then you cannot have the highest HDTV picture quality available.

godson
05-02-2006, 11:52 PM
Use HDMI throughput only; it is the latest in the evolution of connectons. If your HDTV doesn't have HDMI, then you cannot have the highest HDTV picture quality available.
Lol...thats entirely an OPINION.There are plenty of sets out there that have crappy HDMI ports and the PQ suffers greatly when compared to the components.Also have you ever done a broad side-by-side comparo?Probably not because most people,videophiles included,cannot tell the difference between the 2 connections when shown on identical sets side by side.

leshabitants24
05-03-2006, 03:21 AM
Use HDMI throughput only; it is the latest in the evolution of connectons. If your HDTV doesn't have HDMI, then you cannot have the highest HDTV picture quality available.
there is no diff between DVI and HDMI (supposedly). my HDMI connection and my component are about equal in pq as is the DVI connection. the HDMI connection has only stereo audio.

treker
05-03-2006, 07:43 AM
DVI- no audio,HDMI-audio.video.Most people use other sources for audio that the TV

ScottyMacZ24
05-03-2006, 07:58 PM
Sorry, HDMI and DVI have a better picture quality than component video. It is a proven fact.

godson
05-04-2006, 12:05 AM
Sorry, HDMI and DVI have a better picture quality than component video. It is a proven fact.
LMAO...."Ya know,San Diego is the greatest city in the world,its a proven fact ya know,scientist have confirmed this along time ago"....lol. PERHAPS in theory,but ABSOLUTELY not always in application.So sorry you feel this way.

hdrichtv
05-04-2006, 06:23 AM
DVI and Component lack the following, which HDMI has: simultaneous audio and video, the highest transfer bit rate, simultaneous two way communication.
Thanks

ScottyMacZ24
05-04-2006, 11:12 AM
HDMI and DVI are both equal in terms of picture quality, granted HDMI does carry audio as well. However, to state that component has as good of a picture as HDMI and DVI is ridiculous. HDMI and DVI tranfer the signal digitally where as component is still analog.

THANKS.

cheezz
05-04-2006, 12:08 PM
Those who say there is no difference between HDMI/DVI vs component are prolly the ones with smaller displays which makes it a true statement. However, the bigger the display ie 50" or more, you can really tell the difference. My 2 pixels worth anyway.

cheezz

godson
05-04-2006, 03:25 PM
HDMI and DVI are both equal in terms of picture quality, granted HDMI does carry audio as well. However, to state that component has as good of a picture as HDMI and DVI is ridiculous. HDMI and DVI tranfer the signal digitally where as component is still analog.Also as you can see, I own a 50" set and I must say,from my STB there is no difference in PQ...the only improvement I see from the HDMI is from my DVD player,and slight at that....so the statement about smaller sets IMO is also bogus.

THANKS.
ok so just show me where its "proven". Like I said in theory yea it should be BUT that DOES NOT take into account the quality of the set itself nor the HDMI port. There are plenty of reviews and articles by much more reputable writters than you or me that clearly state that on many sets the HDMI as very poor color saturation aswell as various bloomong problems just to list a few.All I'm saying is youre making a very uninformed,broad statement that is not entirely true.But your tyhe same guy that was ranting on another thread about something you were obviously unknowledgeable about so I expect little more from than regurgetated information that youve read somewhere else and narrowed it down to your own view and spit out whats left on here.So please,inform me,and yourself.

ScottyMacZ24
05-04-2006, 07:40 PM
First jr., that was crafty editing. I did not post half of the quote that you pasted. Second, is there a reason that you are following me from post to post.

1) DVI and HDMI are both digital. People are replacing "analog" tv's with DIGITAL tv's.

2) DVI and HDMI will look better than component video on a digital tv.

3) Component video is currently being negotiated to be eliminated by the major television and movie companies with the fcc.

Nobody said component is bad jerky. It is just not the right connection in certain situations. However, with digital tv's being more prominent, then HDMI and dvi are better.

One last thing. Why do you think all of the companies out there are putting HDMI on most everything out now?
TV's Sattelite and cable boxes, DVD players, Xbox, Playstation 3, Home audio recievers. Think about it before you begin an uneducated rant smart guy.

P.S. I hope that is not what you really look like...............Scary :)

Allin4greeN
05-04-2006, 08:06 PM
I've read so many posts/articles on different forums, etc. about HDMI problems on various STB's and HDTV's that I find any statement about HDMI's superiority to be silly... not to mention the constant evolution of the spec (1.0, 1.2, 1.3[or 2.0]) which practically necessitates that one have an engineering degree to discern the differences... plus the fact that many "digital" HDTV's, irregardless of size, still perform D/A conversions despite the nomenclature.

Anyway, IMHO DVI made a lot more sense and I find HDMI to be... the product of an unfortunate series of events. My Component I/O looks great. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it :D

godson
05-04-2006, 11:03 PM
Actually that was last part of the qoute was supposed to be edited into my post,not your qoute so yea that was an error on my part.But jerky?Oh its obviuos now to me that youre a douchebag and I will proceed no further with this thread.

MadMrPlow
05-05-2006, 08:15 AM
Most tv`s are optomized for 1080i,hence feeding them 1080 looks better.
Most tv`s convert digital to analog for scaling,hence component looks better.

stchman
05-05-2006, 12:43 PM
Lol...thats entirely an OPINION.There are plenty of sets out there that have crappy HDMI ports and the PQ suffers greatly when compared to the components.Also have you ever done a broad side-by-side comparo?Probably not because most people,videophiles included,cannot tell the difference between the 2 connections when shown on identical sets side by side.
I dont believe that some sets have superior HDMI input ports than others. HDMI is a spec that everyone must follow. If you say that some HDMI ports are crappy on some sets, then by logic we can say that come component ports on some sets are crappy. As far as PQ, my vip622 looks a little better with HDMI over component. Not a tremendous difference, but noticable.

stchman
05-05-2006, 12:46 PM
Those who say there is no difference between HDMI/DVI vs component are prolly the ones with smaller displays which makes it a true statement. However, the bigger the display ie 50" or more, you can really tell the difference. My 2 pixels worth anyway.

cheezz
In a video sense, HDMI and DVI are electrically identical. That is the reason you can get a DVI to HDMI cable. The ONLY difference is stereo audio. That is it. Go look up the pinouts of HDMI and compare it to DVI.

stchman
05-05-2006, 12:49 PM
Most tv`s are optomized for 1080i,hence feeding them 1080 looks better.
Most tv`s convert digital to analog for scaling,hence component looks better.
Most CRT HDTVs are optimized for 1080i. Microdisplay (LCD, DLP, LCoS) are optimized fo 720p. Interlacing is not applicable to microdisplays.

stchman
05-05-2006, 01:09 PM
Most people that post on this sight have a common problem.
-My expensive big screen's picture is crap.

The answer is simple. Hook your tv up correctly. Do not be cheap when a salesman offers you cables. I am not saying buy the most expensive cables, just buy the best connection possible for what you have. For example:

CABLE BOX: The best connection on most all cable boxes is an S-video connection.
SATTELITE RECIEVER: In most cases, same as above.
HD CABLE BOX: Either HDMI (best) DVI or component video (red,green,blue cable)
HD SATTELITE: Same as above.
DVD PLAYER: Component video.
HD UPCONVERTING PLAYER: HDMI or DVI
VCR: Basic yellow video.

Why spend thousands on a tv and then hook it up with basic cable?

The cables that CC, BB, Ultimate, American, etc. sell you when you buy an audio or video device are designed to maximize profits. Those stores make very little on the TVs, they make a lot on the cabling. I bought a DVD player from BB a while back for like $89. The retard at BB said I needed $125 worth of Monster cables to achieve the best quality picture. I dont believe that spending more on the interconnects than on the device itself is a wise move.

Baseband video only requires about 6MHz of bandwidth for composite and S-Video. Component video needs about 100MHz of bandwidth for HD. Even cheap COAX cable is good for about 3GHZ. The problem lies in the connectors. RCA connectors are good for about 150MHz. Type F and BNC are much better connectors.

When some idiot tries to sell you some uber thick video cables, it will make no difference. The connectors are what matters. RCAs are just so good. Shielding does play a part in it, but most coax is shielded far better than it needs to for video purposes.

godson
05-05-2006, 01:14 PM
I dont believe that some sets have superior HDMI input ports than others. HDMI is a spec that everyone must follow. If you say that some HDMI ports are crappy on some sets, then by logic we can say that come component ports on some sets are crappy. As far as PQ, my vip622 looks a little better with HDMI over component. Not a tremendous difference, but noticable.
Totally agreed.In my own test on my own sets I have seen differences.The HDMI on my Philips looks much more saturated than the components do.Perhaps an ISF could adjust that input better than I can but srtaight outta the box the HDMI was very saturated,the components actually looked better,I've been able to level it out a bit since but an ISF is prolly needed for best PQ.But on my Sony the HDMI inout did not have this problem.Yea sure its a spec but its been shown that many devices,particulary upconverting players,have varying degrees of quality thru there HDMI port.Some players just use the technology better than others. I think this whole thread has gotten a bit outta perspective here,I am in NO WAY against HDMI or anything,its great to have 1 wire rather than 3 components behind my stuff.The audio is of little use for me but its still a good idea.My point behind my original post was simply to state that the main purpose of HDMI was never picture superiority,it was mainly about copyright protection,a way for the studios to cut down on piracy.My only problem is the way people misinterpret it.People say "well you can only upconvert over HDMI cause its all digital" or theres no DAC when using HDMI.But thats not entirely true,you can upconvert thru component,most players wont let you because of copyright problems,NOT limitations.HD-DVD players currently are able to play the movies thru components because studios have not implemented the flags yet,but in the meantime you could enjoy HD-DVD's right now thru your components.Now over time they prolly will implement these flags causing the players to restrict the resolution output so then HDMI will be needed for full PQ but again,it has NOTHING to do limitations of the connectors.Also as the guy posted above,most if not all tv's will have a DAC regardless of the connection.I believe this is the case mainly with STB's more so that upconvert/HD-DVD players but I'm not 100% so I'm not claiming this is gospel,but I'm pretty sure.

stchman
05-05-2006, 01:28 PM
to godson:

IMO, upconversion DVD players are a waste of time. DVD video is NTSC video which is 480 lines. What the DVD player does is scan convert the video to 720p or 1080i. I have an LCoS TV so it converts evrything to 720p anyway. It is basically which upconversion process is better TV or DVD player. My Sony is upconversion and I can see ZERO difference between the 480p and the other modes.

godson
05-05-2006, 11:50 PM
Oh yea,I agree with ya man. Was just using it as an example of an HDMI output source.Believe me I've said the same thing a million times.

lpoulas
05-08-2006, 02:04 PM
From my experience (50 " Samsung DLP) there is a noticeable difference between compononet and HDMI - HDMI simply has the better picture quality.

As someone else said - from TV set to TV set I guess this could vary, but all in all with everyting in proper working order there is no debate.

EJ08
05-08-2006, 03:22 PM
what's your opinion on the SXRD....component or HDMI? I just bought a SXRD and personally can't see a difference. Just curious, thanks.

Virus
05-08-2006, 05:35 PM
I'm going to have to take godson's side on this one. It depends on the each device and their implementation of HDMI or DVI. Components looked much better on my Mitsu 55413 than did DVI.

As far as upconverting DVD players: It all depends on the player. I have a Pioneer Elite 59AVi DVD player and the upconversion looks absolutely stunning compared to 480p.

hson
05-08-2006, 07:49 PM
I have a 52" Toshiba HM84 and when I went from component to HDMI there was a "slight" difference. If I had to give my free HDMI cable back I would stay with component and not go buy a HDMI cable because "slight" is not worth the extra dollars. Just my 2 cents.

FLhd
05-10-2006, 02:39 PM
yep definitely test the shit, alotta sets have bunk hdmi inputs, and the upconverts, most are horrible. test all of em out before you buy and if the people at the store get an attitude they dont deserve your money. What i have learned is getting a good flavor means you have to get the right recipe.

godson
05-11-2006, 10:52 AM
Thats all I've been saying since the beginning of this thread,its just not right to make such a broad statement like HDMI is better PQ hands down,everytime.Thats not real world application.Thanks to you guys who are open-minded enough to understand what I was saying.

daleb
05-11-2006, 11:50 AM
Some folks believe HDMI HAS to be better..if not something is wrong.

Either that, or they think if it is better for them, it's automatically better for everyone.

The ones interested in getting the most from their equipment will experiment and get the most. Others will continue to assume everything should work based on someone else's experience.
This 'I can't think for myself....should I do this or that?' mentality has to stop. Get educated, stay informed, believe only half of what you read, and even less of what you are told. Use your own eyes, ears, and what's between behind and between them.

Allin4greeN
05-11-2006, 03:42 PM
Some folks believe HDMI HAS to be better..if not something is wrong.

Either that, or they think if it is better for them, it's automatically better for everyone.

The ones interested in getting the most from their equipment will experiment and get the most. Others will continue to assume everything should work based on someone else's experience.
This 'I can't think for myself....should I do this or that?' mentality has to stop. Get educated, stay informed, believe only half of what you read, and even less of what you are told. Use your own eyes, ears, and what's between behind and between them.:D Well said!

miker104
05-11-2006, 10:13 PM
Just spent 50.00 dollars (shipping included) for a monster hdmi cable (149.99 retail Price) I hooked it up to my dishnetwork reciever and to my hls5086,(actually dvi-hdmi cable). I left it hood up for excatly 2 minutes... I have a 15.00 dollar set of components that looked 100% better.. NOt just a little bit but awhole lot better.. Any one wants to try this cable out for themselfves send me 40.00 dollars to my paypal I will send you the cable shipping included and you can see for yourself.. Mike :yippee:

godson
05-12-2006, 01:21 AM
Unfortuneatly Mike,you over payed for an already overpriced cable,which in turn will be VERY hard to re-sell,even at a loss.

miker104
05-12-2006, 04:09 AM
Well its not the loss that bums me out.. Its the fact that the picture does not look any better. More hype with the hdmi!!!!!!!!!!(for me).

chrpai
05-12-2006, 05:44 AM
Sorry, HDMI and DVI have a better picture quality than component video. It is a proven fact.


Who dragged this trash back into the forums? Wasn't he banned?

Allin4greeN
05-12-2006, 07:47 AM
...Wasn't he banned?Under several different usernames, I believe...

enmoco
05-12-2006, 08:35 AM
"I'm an excellant driver.....Time for Judge Wopner.......Kmart sucks.............Sorry, HDMI and DVI have a better picture quality than component video. It is a proven fact....proven fact.......proven fact...."

enmoco
05-12-2006, 09:14 AM
Just spent 50.00 dollars (shipping included) for a monster hdmi cable (149.99 retail Price) I hooked it up to my dishnetwork reciever and to my hls5086,(actually dvi-hdmi cable). I left it hood up for excatly 2 minutes... I have a 15.00 dollar set of components that looked 100% better.. NOt just a little bit but awhole lot better.. Any one wants to try this cable out for themselfves send me 40.00 dollars to my paypal I will send you the cable shipping included and you can see for yourself.. Mike :yippee:.........1HDMI DVI Cable 28AWG - 6ft w/Ferrite Cores (Gold-Plated)


Original Value* : $17.99
Quantity Our Price
1 $4.71
2 - 5 $4.48
6 - 19 $4.24
20 - 49 $4.01 http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023103&p_id=2404&seq=1&format=2 .....This one is their best($14.75),has jacket like the Monster.....http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023102&p_id=2218&seq=1&format=2&style=

miker104
05-12-2006, 09:59 AM
I dont really care how cheap I could have got the cable for.. Like I said I will never believe that hdmi is better than components on my system.. I know I could get it cheaper... I wanted it today.

enmoco
05-12-2006, 10:05 AM
I dont really care how cheap I could have got the cable for.. Like I said I will never believe that hdmi is better than components on my system.. I know I could get it cheaper... I wanted it today.This info is not specifically directed at you but the people who see these threads after you have already paid too much.:)P.S. For someone who really does'nt care,your post is full of references to money.Just an observation.

miker104
05-12-2006, 10:11 AM
If the picture was even the same as the components I would have use it to free up another component input. But it was not even close. What do you guys think about the hdmi with the dvd players. I have that hooked up with components also.

I dont know much about how this stuff works but the only thing I can think of is that, with components the tv has to turn the signal back to digital and there is some sort of analog to digital filters in the tv.. With dvi the dish network box is sending the digital to the tv and the tv does not have to convert the siginal to digital so hence no filters. That is what it looked like to me a very digitized image. In high def it looked almost the same but on the sd channels it look horrible. What do you guys think. Mike

enmoco
05-12-2006, 10:15 AM
Just another thought for all those watching. In short hook-ups, cables are almost never responsible for problems, of any kind.You can get very good,quality cables online from a number of sites (Monoprice is only one). Save your money and get an upgraded DVD or something else to improve your viewing experience. Terribly expensive cables are the bane of the industry,IMHO.

stchman
05-12-2006, 10:43 AM
Just spent 50.00 dollars (shipping included) for a monster hdmi cable (149.99 retail Price) I hooked it up to my dishnetwork reciever and to my hls5086,(actually dvi-hdmi cable). I left it hood up for excatly 2 minutes... I have a 15.00 dollar set of components that looked 100% better.. NOt just a little bit but awhole lot better.. Any one wants to try this cable out for themselfves send me 40.00 dollars to my paypal I will send you the cable shipping included and you can see for yourself.. Mike :yippee:
Sorry to hear that you spent so much on an HDMI cable. You can get HDMI cables off ebay for around $10. I bought a few from there. Monster Cables are overpriced wire. There is NO NEED to spend that kind of money on interconnects.

stchman
05-12-2006, 10:45 AM
I dont really care how cheap I could have got the cable for.. Like I said I will never believe that hdmi is better than components on my system.. I know I could get it cheaper... I wanted it today.
Maybe something is wrong with the cable or your set or the HDMI out on the STB. On my JVC the HDMI looks a little better than the component. Not a great amount, but a little. You cannot dismiss HDMI with a sample of (1).

stchman
05-12-2006, 11:03 AM
Just another thought for all those watching. In short hook-ups, cables are almost never responsible for problems, of any kind.You can get very good,quality cables online from a number of sites (Monoprice is only one). Save your money and get an upgraded DVD or something else to improve your viewing experience. Terribly expensive cables are the bane of the industry,IMHO.
Agreed, I hate it when I go into American, BB, CC, Ultimate and they try to ram Monster Cables down my throat. They tell me I HAVE to have these cables to get the best picture. What a crock. I guess the profit on those cables is just incredible the way they push them. The sales people also have zero idea of what they are talking about either. They just do what they are told.

EJ08
05-12-2006, 11:06 AM
I just bought the SXRD and have both HDMI and high quality component cables connected. Both have been adjusted to match my lighting in my family room and adjusted and tweaked accordingly. My conclusion is some programs and stations are better with HDMI and some are better with component. ESPN HD baseball IMHO is slighly better with HDMI for example. HBO & Showtime looks better with component for example. Once the NFL season starts I'll test both and settle on one.

godson
05-12-2006, 11:33 AM
Yea man,see what I'm sayin?Its all a preference thing,aswell as setup and content.....theres way too many factors to account for to make as broad a statement as ScottyZ24 made.Like I tried to explain to him,when HDMI was implemented it was wasnt really even about PQ,it was more about copyright protection and boosted buy the fact it is a single cable making installs MUCH neater.The slightly better PQ was basically a by-product of the new technology,not the sole purpose of it.As far as DVD players like I said before,I do notice an improvement when usin the HDMI from my DVD player but its slight,but worht the few extra bucks for the neatness it provides.The problem with guys like Scotty and the reason they use statements like "its a proven fact" is that they read bits and pieces of things and never bother with whole story....these are the kinda guys that work BB or CC and tell people they NEED to HAVE the 100 dollar monster HDMI cable cause it will provide the BEST PQ,and sucker some poor sap into buying these things.I guess thats why hes all psyched up about having a Z24,what a joke......

enmoco
05-12-2006, 11:57 AM
Yea man,see what I'm sayin?Its all a preference thing,aswell as setup and content.....theres way too many factors to account for to make as broad a statement as ScottyZ24 made.Like I tried to explain to him,when HDMI was implemented it was wasnt really even about PQ,it was more about copyright protection and boosted buy the fact it is a single cable making installs MUCH neater.The slightly better PQ was basically a by-product of the new technology,not the sole purpose of it.As far as DVD players like I said before,I do notice an improvement when usin the HDMI from my DVD player but its slight,but worht the few extra bucks for the neatness it provides.The problem with guys like Scotty and the reason they use statements like "its a proven fact" is that they read bits and pieces of things and never bother with whole story....these are the kinda guys that work BB or CC and tell people they NEED to HAVE the 100 dollar monster HDMI cable cause it will provide the BEST PQ,and sucker some poor sap into buying these things.I guess thats why hes all psyched up about having a Z24,what a joke......Ah,yes,the blindingly fast Cavalier Z-24. A true, Detroit built ,sure to be an ever appreciateing, addition to any"savvy" collector's stable of muscle cars.A machine many of us can only hope to obtain,as they are increasingly hard to find.I personnally had the privelidge of seeing Reggie Jackson's mint, cherry red, convertible sell at Barrett-Jackson(West Palm) a few weeks ago. Truly pristine example of the marque.$2650.00 I believe (With the almost impossible to find "BOOT") Remember,when the top goes down,the price goes up. Marvelous,really.

godson
05-12-2006, 02:34 PM
LOL......2460 is a bit below market value no?Some proud owner got an early Christmas gift we could only dream about.A true afficionado's dream.

enmoco
05-12-2006, 02:41 PM
LOL......2460 is a bit below market value no?Some proud owner got an early Christmas gift we could only dream about.A true afficionado's dream. ;) :p :cool:

gottaride
05-15-2006, 07:41 PM
O.K. I wanna use the right cables, but my A/V Receiver only has Component and S-video inputs. Now my TV and Cable Box both have HDMI. If I hook-up the HDMI How do I control any of this through the A/V Receiver?

ScottyMacZ24
05-15-2006, 10:58 PM
First, I don't own a Z24. You have no idea what that means. Second, I don't care what the ugly guy says about HDMI. The point I made from the first thread was about how to hook your tv up correctly. Now all you nerds out there can argue with me all you want. If someone is that cheap that they cannot hook their tv up correctly, then fine, enjoy your cheap tv with your cheap cables while you sit on your cheap furniture. People like Godson (the ugly guy) are the ones that I would love to punch in the face. But that would probably make an improvement.

The fact about HDMI is that it is all digital and component video is good, but is still analog morons.

Now repeat after me ugly guy. Digital is better than analog.
http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/index.asp
http://www.hdmi.org/consumer/faq.asp

Scoob
05-16-2006, 09:18 AM
No one here is trying to say that analog is better than digital. We all know that's not true. I think they are just saying that SUBJECTIVELY on some displays that the improvement in picture on HDMI vs component is miniscule. On my display I can't tell the difference after spending a lot of time with comparisons. As far as us "buying cheap cables", you go ahead and continue to overspend for your expensive Monster cables. BTW the name calling is extremely childish.

enmoco
05-16-2006, 09:45 AM
First, I don't own a Z24. You have no idea what that means. Second, I don't care what the ugly guy says about HDMI. The point I made from the first thread was about how to hook your tv up correctly. Now all you nerds out there can argue with me all you want. If someone is that cheap that they cannot hook their tv up correctly, then fine, enjoy your cheap tv with your cheap cables while you sit on your cheap furniture. People like Godson (the ugly guy) are the ones that I would love to punch in the face. But that would probably make an improvement.

The fact about HDMI is that it is all digital and component video is good, but is still analog morons.

Now repeat after me ugly guy. Digital is better than analog.
http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/index.asp
http://www.hdmi.org/consumer/faq.aspWe know,you only aspire to own one.Everyone knows you have to be 16 to drive.

cheezz
05-16-2006, 10:23 AM
He probably got ripped on monster cables that's why he's venting.

cheezz

ScottyMacZ24
05-16-2006, 10:29 AM
There is no venting, I just find it hard to believe that there are that many stupid people walking the planet.

ScottyMacZ24
05-16-2006, 10:30 AM
We know,you only aspire to own one.Everyone knows you have to be 16 to drive.


Once again, stupid.

stchman
05-16-2006, 11:36 AM
O.K. I wanna use the right cables, but my A/V Receiver only has Component and S-video inputs. Now my TV and Cable Box both have HDMI. If I hook-up the HDMI How do I control any of this through the A/V Receiver?
You can only control the audio, not video.

stchman
05-16-2006, 11:39 AM
First, I don't own a Z24. You have no idea what that means. Second, I don't care what the ugly guy says about HDMI. The point I made from the first thread was about how to hook your tv up correctly. Now all you nerds out there can argue with me all you want. If someone is that cheap that they cannot hook their tv up correctly, then fine, enjoy your cheap tv with your cheap cables while you sit on your cheap furniture. People like Godson (the ugly guy) are the ones that I would love to punch in the face. But that would probably make an improvement.

The fact about HDMI is that it is all digital and component video is good, but is still analog morons.

Now repeat after me ugly guy. Digital is better than analog.
http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/index.asp
http://www.hdmi.org/consumer/faq.asp
Are you employed by a high end cable manufacturer? Everybody know that the high end cables make almost no difference. Monster cables might be 0.0015% better picture. I dont disagree that HDMI is a slightly better picture, but you are making it out to be 20X better. It is not. My advice, dont believe the cable hype.

godson
05-16-2006, 12:02 PM
First, I don't own a Z24. You have no idea what that means. Second, I don't care what the ugly guy says about HDMI. The point I made from the first thread was about how to hook your tv up correctly. Now all you nerds out there can argue with me all you want. If someone is that cheap that they cannot hook their tv up correctly, then fine, enjoy your cheap tv with your cheap cables while you sit on your cheap furniture. People like Godson (the ugly guy) are the ones that I would love to punch in the face. But that would probably make an improvement.

The fact about HDMI is that it is all digital and component video is good, but is still analog morons.

Now repeat after me ugly guy. Digital is better than analog.
http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/index.asp
http://www.hdmi.org/consumer/faq.asp
Now you resort to internet tough guy...wow.I'm actually surprised that your as dumb as you are,I gave you more credit than that initially but know you have gone and changed my whole perspective.So you go ahead and keep preaching your story,and maybe some day you'll convince someone that your right.Oh yea,if that was me in the pic and NOT John Turturro,I may be offended.I guess youve never seen the big lebowski,but then again it is rated R so I guess you mom has the parental lock on you DVD player.

ScottyMacZ24
05-16-2006, 12:10 PM
Now you resort to internet tough guy...wow.I'm actually surprised that your as dumb as you are,I gave you more credit than that initially but know you have gone and changed my whole perspective.So you go ahead and keep preaching your story,and maybe some day you'll convince someone that your right.Oh yea,if that was me in the pic and NOT John Turturro,I may be offended.I guess youve never seen the big lebowski,but then again it is rated R so I guess you mom has the parental lock on you DVD player.

Once again, stupid
nor do i watch stupid movies

enmoco
05-16-2006, 12:26 PM
Once again, stupid.Yea,everyone here is really impressed with you and your viewpoint.

enmoco
05-16-2006, 12:29 PM
Once again, stupid
nor do i watch stupid movies"Stupid is as stupid does"

stchman
05-16-2006, 02:15 PM
Now you resort to internet tough guy...wow.I'm actually surprised that your as dumb as you are,I gave you more credit than that initially but know you have gone and changed my whole perspective.So you go ahead and keep preaching your story,and maybe some day you'll convince someone that your right.Oh yea,if that was me in the pic and NOT John Turturro,I may be offended.I guess youve never seen the big lebowski,but then again it is rated R so I guess you mom has the parental lock on you DVD player.
That is The Jesus, man The Big Lebowski was a riot. I thought they cursed in GoodFellas. The Big Lebowski was even more curse ridden. I love that movie!!!!

cheezz
05-16-2006, 07:01 PM
Once again, stupid
nor do i watch stupid movies

Well son...we may be the stupid ones but you ARE the stupidest of all.
Are you Ward Cleaver's son? heheheheh

cheezz

ScottyMacZ24
05-16-2006, 10:28 PM
Once again, stupid.

cheezz
05-17-2006, 11:17 AM
Once again, stupid.

Wow, look at the kid's limited vocabulary. How sad!

stchman
05-17-2006, 12:39 PM
I will have another caucasian.

godson
05-18-2006, 12:12 AM
I will have another caucasian.
The dude will not stand for this aggression man

Allin4greeN
05-18-2006, 01:45 PM
Well, this turned into another useless thread... Try this one (http://www./avs-vb/showthread.php?t=670234&highlight=problems+with+hdmi&styleid=12), it's quite a bit more interesting...

stchman
05-19-2006, 11:41 AM
Why dont we get back to the discussion of what cables to use and how to get the best for your money.

godson
05-20-2006, 10:11 AM
I would love to.....