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Samsung HL-S DLP's

MrCoffee
04-30-2006, 11:30 AM
I see that Circuit City and Best Buy are advertising Samsung HL-S 50" DLP televisions in their flyers now. And the Circuit City website has the HL-R 5067W advertised but not in stock. If the HL-R is being phased out with the HL-S being the latest and greatest, are there any distinct advantages to the HL-S series (i.e. reduced rainbow effect, etc.)? The one thing I did notice is that the HL-S is advertised with two HDMI inputs. They seem to be about the same price as the older HL-R model also.

d6500k
05-01-2006, 02:51 PM
The HL-Rxxxx

This display has less potential in that sammy removed some important tools from its service section. The have replaced many of these elements in their next gen displays.

The r's are by no means untamable, just a bit persnickety when it comes to issues decerning viewers appreciate.

Good viewing,

Doug k

Audiophobe
05-01-2006, 09:14 PM
The HL-Rxxxx

This display has less potential in that sammy removed some important tools from its service section. The have replaced many of these elements in their next gen displays.

The r's are by no means untamable, just a bit persnickety when it comes to issues decerning viewers appreciate.

Good viewing,

Doug k

Well that clears it up for me! :confused:

d6500k
05-01-2006, 11:01 PM
Well that clears it up for me!

Sorry.... How's this.

The HL-S series has improvements over the HL-R series.

They (as you point out) cost the same.

It the HL-S, has the ability to defeat the DNIE engine in user, a major plus if you like to watch movies.

And having the second HDMI input saves on switching hassles as well.

Doug k

Conshy04
05-02-2006, 06:07 AM
The two major differences:

1. The HLS have 1080p INPUT (instead of just 1080p display which is important if you think you will upgrade to PS3 or to HD-DVD/Blu-Ray one day).

2. The HLS have a faster color wheel which MAY reduce the Rainbow effect (RE).

I am going to buy the HLS5687W and have been tracking the prices for the last three weeks. Sammy will be releasing LED DLP TV's that will eliminate the color wheel altogether (and thus no more RE). But you will have to pay about $1000 more for this new technology.

Judgeing by the prices, I think you will be able to nab a HLS5687W for about $2,600-$2,800 over the next six weeks......

adamc
05-03-2006, 05:34 PM
I see that Circuit City and Best Buy are advertising Samsung HL-S 50" DLP televisions in their flyers now. And the Circuit City website has the HL-R 5067W advertised but not in stock. If the HL-R is being phased out with the HL-S being the latest and greatest, are there any distinct advantages to the HL-S series (i.e. reduced rainbow effect, etc.)? The one thing I did notice is that the HL-S is advertised with two HDMI inputs. They seem to be about the same price as the older HL-R model also.

Supposedly they will handle video games better; the HL-R's had lag issues, particularly when upconverting (e.g., from a PS2). I'm hopeful, but would appreciate hearing from anyone who has one.

Rdy4aHDTV
05-03-2006, 07:26 PM
The HL-Rxxxx

This display has less potential in that sammy removed some important tools from its service section. The have replaced many of these elements in their next gen displays.

The r's are by no means untamable, just a bit persnickety when it comes to issues decerning viewers appreciate.

Good viewing,

Doug k

d6500k,
I will be getting one of the HL-S models, 5687 or 5087. My question is have you had a chance to see one in action? And if so have you seen the "sparkle" affect? They seem to sparkle in dynamic mode, in stores anyways. I've seen this on two different sets with the same feed, while the HL-R series looked pretty good. I haven't heard of any new owners yet after tweaking their sets have this problem. What are your thought's on this?

calicogang
05-03-2006, 09:47 PM
I just bought the 50" DLP with two HDMI inputs. Love it. But it really shows how crappy DTV PQ is on most of the SD channels. Also TNT's PQ is not all that great either.

-=CC=-
05-04-2006, 05:00 PM
Does anyone know if the HLS's 2 HDMI ports are the newer 1.3?

Mrjb
05-10-2006, 03:04 AM
nothing that I am aware of is 1.3 it seems like fall at best
I will say that I am watching it so I can sell all of my audio equipment so it can decode dolby true/plus

I would hate to have 7k in obsolete equipment.

Do you think there will be a pic difference in 1080p vs 1080i signals on the 1080p native sets

FLhd
05-10-2006, 02:04 PM
no 1.3 on the new samsungs. yeah, the new HLS is a better machine overall, i talked to the Samsung reps last month on the changes. The biggest thing is the bulb burns brighter than the HLR, many folks were goin towards the tosh last season, because the HLR was not as bright. The Color wheel is updated, new video processor. The lagging was a big issue on the HLR especially for games (more prominent on 50" and up) the new HLS done a great job in reducing this considerably. i got the 5087, and i am lovin it. The NBA playoffs are great in high def.

murphysj
05-11-2006, 01:15 PM
After looking at this model at Circuit City and comparing it to the 5086 I decided that the quality of the 87 was significantly better on both HD and SD content.

It should be delivered around the 19th of this month. Got it for under 2700.00 delivered with a 5 year warranty.

Will let you know how it looks in my entertainment center.

cuat_420
05-11-2006, 08:40 PM
I have to say , this set is beautiful!! No lag what so ever on the 360, no matter what game I play. The only problem I have is that when watching HD channels, the detail in dark areas gets VERY noisy. I am sure it is just a calibration issue, but if anyone has suggestions on settings to eliminate this, please let me know.

HiImdrummer03
05-11-2006, 08:52 PM
This is one of the early build problems of the new HLS.They have like little dots evem more than normal noise that runs around in parts of the screen.

murphysj
05-12-2006, 10:57 AM
Is this a fixable problem. 2700k is a lot to spend if you are not satisfied. Any one else noticing this video noise in HD in the black area.

miker104
05-12-2006, 11:27 AM
I have the 5086 and have the same noise problems..

cuat_420
05-12-2006, 06:05 PM
I only notice this on some channels. I believe it is all in the feed. I have seen unbelievable pictures with no noise whatsoever at one store, while the others have lots of noise. I contribute part of my problem to the fact that my sattelite feedis over 100 feet long, so I am sure that I lose picture quality. I don't see this with my DVD player which is also fed through HDMI. I compared this and the SXRD side by side with the same feed, and the Sammy was just as nice, much brighter and $1000 cheaper. If I only have to worry about a little noise ( which I am sure would be present on the Sony as well), as opposed to a green blob, I think it is an easy decision.

cuat_420
05-12-2006, 06:11 PM
Murphy,

It isn't in the black areas, they are great. It seems to be scenes that are set in low light ( like Discovery Channel Caves) that seem to get fuzzy, as if it was a bad reception. Hopefully that helps.

Brassassin
06-27-2006, 10:11 PM
Murph7,

did you ever figure it out (the black noise on your tv)?

where did you get the deal for 2700 with a 5 yr warranty?

thx

ktw
07-09-2006, 11:51 PM
I have had zero probs or issues with my 5078 but I would at least like to see the pic of the new LED sets. I have been to more places/stores etc... that I have no count and I have seen none. They will be available for a "live look see" where and when ? Anyone have a clue? Noone at said locals had any idea. Thanks.

1080i Ownz
07-12-2006, 05:37 PM
Is this a fixable problem. 2700k is a lot to spend if you are not satisfied. Any one else noticing this video noise in HD in the black area.
Same thing here....going back to Store for an exchange. Damn the 15% restocking fee

Netbum
07-21-2006, 05:06 PM
This is one of the early build problems of the new HLS.They have like little dots evem more than normal noise that runs around in parts of the screen.
I think that has proven to be source related..these new DLP,s are touchy,but if close to calibrated settings,with a good source,they have an oustanding PQ.(of any display)
Hard to find a store with a good source.
But I,ve seen them in action,very impressive.
Just waiting for the 71"... :D (and my budget).

Conshy04
07-23-2006, 07:30 AM
This is one of the early build problems of the new HLS.They have like little dots evem more than normal noise that runs around in parts of the screen.

I have the HLS5087W and I have never heard any noise..

Lo Sizzle
07-26-2006, 12:45 PM
Is there any known problems or issues with the new sammy HL-S6187 or HL-S line?

Conshy04
07-26-2006, 03:00 PM
Is there any known problems or issues with the new sammy HL-S6187 or HL-S line?

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