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Looking for a good 720P CRT HDTV

360gamer
04-11-2006, 07:32 PM
Any suggestions?

Agent Zero
04-11-2006, 07:47 PM
I didn't think a CRT could do "P" - "i" only... Am I wrong?

rbinck
04-11-2006, 07:52 PM
Many will accept a 720p signal and then convert to 1080i for display. This is the only 720p CRT I've ever seen:
http://www.digitalconnection.com/products/directview/dm7352sf.asp (http://www.digitalconnection.com/products/directview/dm7352sf.asp)

360gamer
04-11-2006, 08:01 PM
Thanks for the link.

Does upscaling reduce picture quality?

Also, do any CRT HDTVs have HDMI or DVI inputs? :confused:

rbinck
04-11-2006, 08:04 PM
Yes upscaling will reduce the picture quality, especially the temporal resolution. Where 720p is 60 frames/second, 1080i is 30 frames/second. The frame rate is cut in half.

borromini
04-11-2006, 08:32 PM
...do any CRT HDTVs have HDMI or DVI inputs? :confused: Yes, many CRT HDTVs have either of these digital connections, but unlike fixed-pixel displays, there's not much of an advantage here since CRTs are analog displays.

THX5334
04-11-2006, 09:04 PM
So what's the best XBox 360 HDTV to get for under $700?

borromini
04-11-2006, 09:11 PM
That's going to be any 26" or 30" CRT HDTV by Samsung, Panasonic, Toshiba or Sony.

EddieDZ
04-12-2006, 01:02 PM
the best top of the line CRT HDTV's are the Sony XBR's(correct me if im wrong).. but you wont be paying $700 for them LOL!!

the best $700 CRT HDTV i've seen is indeed 26"/27" no bigger and its a samsung slimfit if im not mistaken... and again CRT HDTV's only display 1080i(though they accept signals like 480i all the way up to 1080i, even 720p)...

what i say is if you really like interlace video and 1080 then go with the CRT.. if your like me and cant stand it and prefer progressive scan like 720p then go with a LCD. BEST OF LUCK

mikerossi
04-12-2006, 03:03 PM
Get the Samsung TX-R3075WH! I just got mine and the picture quality is amazing! The geometry is very, very good as well. It even DISPLAYS 720p without upconverting! This has been a huge debate but upon entering the service menu I found picture settings for 720p. That must mean that it will display 720p and on every spec sheet it says it will display 720p. It also has an HDMI input. I urge you to buy it, it's an amazing TV, you won't regret it! I got mine new for about 615.00 with shipping on B&H Photo's web-site. Here's the link http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&Q=&is=REG&O=productlist&sku=384950#

borromini
04-12-2006, 05:45 PM
...That must mean that it will display 720p and on every spec sheet it says it will display 720p...Wow, Samsung has a multi-scan CRT HDTV for less than $1,000? :confused:

BobY
04-12-2006, 07:54 PM
Remember, if your happy with your set, then your happy.

But according to Samsung's FAQ section, they explicitly state that none of their DynaFlat HDTV's display 720p but rather convert a 720p input to 1080i. It appears some of their older sets may convert it to 480p (although I don't know why they wouldn't display it as 540p).

borromini
04-12-2006, 08:00 PM
I thought it was too good to be true. :)

BobY
04-12-2006, 08:33 PM
There's still that odd Chinese CRT that Sears sells in Canada. The high scan rate might lead one to believe that it really does 720p like they say...

mikerossi
04-13-2006, 05:07 AM
But why would they have display options for 720p in the service menu then? I am stumped...

BobY
04-13-2006, 07:52 AM
What are the options?

If they are just things like contrast. color, etc., that might make sense, as 720p converted to 1080i can look different than 1080i displayed as 1080i.

It might also be that controller and menu system are used in multiple products, some of which do support 720p, or they might have been intended for use in future products. You could try changing them and see what happens...

mikerossi
04-13-2006, 01:30 PM
Some of the options are sub color 720p, sub tint 720p, and there are a bunch of others. Wouldn't that mean it's going to display 720p? They also have those same options for 480p and 1080i.

borromini
04-13-2006, 01:53 PM
Some of the options are sub color 720p, sub tint 720p, and there are a bunch of others. Wouldn't that mean it's going to display 720p?... No not necessarily...as the previous post suggested, it could just mean that you're adjusting the color for 720p input signal that will be converted to 1080i.

Ratman
04-13-2006, 02:07 PM
mikerossi...

Contact Samsung and request to speak with the engineering department.

You may find the all of the Samsung documention is in error.

rbinck
04-13-2006, 03:51 PM
But why would they have display options for 720p in the service menu then? I am stumped...

Because all video signals are scaled. The 720p input signal will require different parameters than a 1080i, 480i or 480p, so there are places for each format's parameters.

godson
04-13-2006, 05:30 PM
Yup...I was looking in my Insignia also has 720p settings in the service menu.But they seem to affect the 1080i settings aswell.Oh well........