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Better Picture Panasonic Plasma or XBR970?

kfederig
04-06-2006, 03:07 AM
I'm looking for a concensus on what has a better, sharper, crisper, picture a Top of the line Plasma like Panasonic or the Sony KD-34XBR970. I realize the CRT will have better blacks and higher contrast, but I'm mainly talking about overall picture quality. I have read that the Sony 34"CRT XBR is the standard buy which all others are judged in Consumers Reports, but then they show the Panasonic Plasmas as equal or better in picture quality.

Thanks for all replies, Kevin

Rick0725
04-06-2006, 08:55 AM
kevin.

I HATE the picture on the Sony 970. Hate it!

I can not believe sony is pulling the "fast one" on the uneducated public with the xbr tag and the second rate picture tube. When ever I look at that damn set I get REAL PISSED OFF!!!!

I have an opportunity to purchase either a 30" or 34" sx tube locally rather cheap...but I am going to put that off to purchase an lcd like every one else in the country when the prices start to drop real soon.

I go gadget shopping every saturday to look but not buy.

this is what I like:

panasonic plasmas
pioneer plasmas
sony lcd panels...love the xbr but they are expensive and the nest tier down is ok.
samsung lcd panels are starting to turn me on.

I look for black level, am NOT buying anything with a BULB and going to purchase a set with a built in tuner.

I am going to wait...already have 3 projection tv's in the house and enough gadgets to open a store.

borromini
04-06-2006, 11:04 AM
The 970 won't be able to compete with a top-of-the-line plasma. Using the 960 for comparison would be the more appropriate question.

Rick0725
04-06-2006, 06:37 PM
my old rca from 1975 had a better picture than the 970!

seti1
04-10-2006, 05:33 PM
The 970 won't be able to compete with a top-of-the-line plasma. Using the 960 for comparison would be the more appropriate question.

Would the 960 win?

borromini
04-10-2006, 08:44 PM
Probably an equally impressive HD image from either. The deciding factor would be whether watching SD is important (960's strength over a fixed-pixel display) or having a larger screen.

lrizzo
08-06-2006, 09:07 PM
[QUOTE=Rick0725]kevin.

I HATE the picture on the Sony 970. Hate it!

you have no idea what you are talking about. I bet if i put a 970 and a 960 side by side..you wouldnt know from either one.

BrianO
08-06-2006, 10:20 PM
[QUOTE=Rick0725]kevin.

I HATE the picture on the Sony 970. Hate it!

you have no idea what you are talking about. I bet if i put a 970 and a 960 side by side..you wouldnt know from either one.

You would lose that bet against anyone with half-decent eyesight. The difference between the now discontinued 34" superfine pitch CRT used in the 960 (and the 34" XS955) and that the fine pitch tube used in the 970 is quite noticeable at any distance less than 12 feet. The 970 is nothing more than a upgraded HS420 and it has the same picture tube that the HS420 was equipped with.

OTOH, I disagree with Rick's assessment of his 1975 set. :)

MrRadman11
08-07-2006, 01:11 AM
wow rick, you certainly are angry. But for no reason at all. . .

Every single time I look at the 960 or 970 I'm in awe. It looks better than anything I've ever seen, next to the high-end Sony LCDs. Even with the coax set-up in BB! And if you think your 1975 SDtv looks better than ANY of today's HDTVs, then you need to get your eyes checked. Because that is WRONG on so many levels.

As of now I think 85% of all LCDs look crappy and blurry. Especially Samsung.

Plasmas on the other hand are very clear, but I'm still hesitant about the whole burn-in issue, even though people tell me that it's pretty much over.

As for me, I will be purchasing the 970 within the next month.

BrianO
08-07-2006, 05:31 PM
wow rick, you certainly are angry. But for no reason at all. . .

Every single time I look at the 960 or 970 I'm in awe.

The 970 actually is a fine set at a decent price. However, as Sony's top-of-the-line CRT set it is 2 steps down from the 960. It is the backward step that disappointed most Sony-ites.

ja2935
08-07-2006, 05:58 PM
Yes, they are just sticking in the 34" CRT market until all the HD CRTs go away - pretty well all the other brands have given up with 34"CRTs - all you seem to see in BB is 30" models. Lets face it, the models from a few years ago (mine included) were better than most of the current 'dumbed-down' models which are simplified to bring the price down. If I was buying now I'd be looking at 1080 LCDs as 720 will be a compromise with HD/BD DVDs which are 1080.

MrRadman11
08-07-2006, 11:55 PM
Yeah, if I had the choice I'd go for the 34" 960, but the cheapest I can find it is $1,500!!! While the 970 is about a grand at BB. For good reason too.

dcnblues
08-18-2006, 02:56 PM
Well, I just got mine and was a bit worried about the picture as I hadn't had a chance to see a unit in any store.

While I'm not a super connoisseur on image quality, and haven't seen the 960, the 970 looks awfully good to me. It is just freakin gorgeous, and just the right size for my medium living room. My roomate had a 52' sony in our last place, and I hate to say it, but the screen was too big for the room. This one is perfect.

Highly recommended.

whooda
11-03-2006, 10:38 PM
watch ebay. got two 960s and two stands for 2k. Just watch and you can find what you want.

i payed top dollar, but its what i wanted.

hi2udavid
11-06-2006, 02:24 PM
We purchased our 970 mid September '06. I decided to wait on a bigger screen because a couple of professional calibrators were of the mindset that technology is changing too fast with too many issues for all formats. They recommended waiting another five or more years but if I had to buy one then buy Plasma. On the hand, tube technology is a proven tech. Therefore, I am very happy with my temporary HD compromise of the 970. In another five years I will buy a ~55" and will reserve comparisons until that time. The 970 has a stunning picture next to other tube sets. The other HD technologies looked like crap in analog mode so my wife would been upset until later in 2009 when everthing goes digital. We are very happy with the quality of the 970 in all formats and it was less than $1,000. :D

ViperVenom18
11-27-2006, 05:09 AM
[QUOTE=lrizzo]

You would lose that bet against anyone with half-decent eyesight. The difference between the now discontinued 34" superfine pitch CRT used in the 960 (and the 34" XS955) and that the fine pitch tube used in the 970 is quite noticeable at any distance less than 12 feet. The 970 is nothing more than a upgraded HS420 and it has the same picture tube that the HS420 was equipped with.

OTOH, I disagree with Rick's assessment of his 1975 set. :)

Yeah I purchases a 34" XS 955 HDTV when Magnolia HiFi only had 3 left and were giving them away at open box prices for new units. I'm glad I did as of right after that the 970 took its place (why did they go backwards in quality... doesn't it become cheaper after years go on to make the same good display?)

In any ways, the picture on this TV is freakin' wonderful.

MrRadman11
12-03-2006, 06:25 PM
I agree.

B_BODY_1
02-23-2007, 12:09 AM
I have a xbr800 does 970 and/or the 960 have a better picture or is the only difference the tuner?
I like the Panasonic plasmas too they are very comparable to my 800

PenGun
02-23-2007, 04:18 PM
"I have a xbr800 does 970 and/or the 960 have a better picture or is the only difference the tuner?
I like the Panasonic plasmas too they are very comparable to my 800"

The XBR960 as well as the XS955 have the Super Fine Picture Tube. Possibly the best CRT ever made.

I love mine. I have yet to see a better picture.

ridy163
03-25-2007, 09:37 PM
my old rca from 1975 had a better picture than the 970!

you are funny...

Chris Gerhard
03-26-2007, 04:49 AM
I think the Panasonic plasma will have a better picture than the XBR970 although I haven't done a side by side comparison. The pictures will be different and both very good, but I agree the XBR960 and even XBR910 were better CRT's than the XBR970 and noticeably so. Today, I wouldn't buy a direct view HDTV, the CRT should disappear soon as LCD, plasma, and DLP are all good enough and smaller and less expensive. I am going to use my XBR910 for a long time, until it dies, but sure won't buy another CRT.

Chris

CPR
03-26-2007, 12:19 PM
I've said it before, but here goes;
I have both, the Sony KD34XBR960, & the LOEWE 30" Aventos; (no longer sold in the USA)
The Loewe BLOWS AWAY the SONY
Case closed!

ridy163
03-26-2007, 12:29 PM
there is a lot of negativity coming in the direction of 970. however, If you are concerned about the sharpness and resolution 970 is a great set. Even viewing it form 6 foot distance you can notice the artifacts on HD channels (except OTA). Lucking SFP tube the TV still outputs higher resolution then D* can provide. That is for sure.

PenGun
03-26-2007, 01:02 PM
I've said it before, but here goes;
I have both, the Sony KD34XBR960, & the LOEWE 30" Aventos; (no longer sold in the USA)
The Loewe BLOWS AWAY the SONY
Case closed!

There is something wrong with your Sony ;). Calibrate the puppy maybe.