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So.....what is it that I need??

03-28-2006, 12:10 PM
I live in the Minneapolis area and I'm new to the HD world so I'm looking for some advice. I currently have just basic cable and am looking to get a plasma so I need to get either satellite or digital cable and am leaning towards satellite. Dude at DIRECTV tells me that in April our local major networks will be broadcasting in HD. Ultimately, I'd like the HD DVR so I can record shows in HD, but Dude tells me I won't be able to watch the locals in HD with the HD DVR. I'd need to get the HD recveiver and the non-HD DVR to do that.

But if I went that route, in order to watch 24 in HD I'd have to watch it live. I couldn't record it because my DVR isn't HD. Unforunately, given DIRECTV's current technology, this seems like the best option. Then, when their HD DVR is capable of receiving and recording local HD, I could upgrade.

Am I way off on anything? What would you recommend I do? It seems ridiculous that DIRECTV doesn't have the technology yet to be able to watch and/or record local shows with a HD DVR, doesn't it?

How hard can it be??

Thanks for any input...I appreciate it!

03-28-2006, 12:48 PM
I have the HR10-250 with an ota hooked-up.It records ota hd signals.Ota hd is better than local hd being broadcast by satellite.The ota signal is uncompressed.MPEG-4 equipment d* is putting out is good if you want locals via satellite.They are in no rush to add hd content other than locals,but the ota is the way to go if you can pick the channels up.Go to www.antennaweb.org to see how close you are to broadcast towers.

03-28-2006, 01:10 PM
I don't know how it is in your area, but here in Houston TWC will give you a HD DVR. No upfront costs.

03-28-2006, 02:08 PM
I'm 10 miles from all the towers. One station requires the multi-element antenna. So, drock....you are not able to record HD off of say ESPN with your HR10-250 are you?

03-28-2006, 02:52 PM
go with cable. Did dude tell you how much for the HD dvr as well? as it stands now, cable you can get HDDVR with locals. Directv, you have to use the OTA to get them unless you go without a DVR.

03-28-2006, 03:16 PM
now i am confused. i am the poor soul who desparately wants to switch to cable to avoid the high upgrade costs of D*, but am stuck on a very old comcast system (550 MHz) which has little bandwidth. since i am sort of stuck with D*, i have been looking into upgrading to hd, with an hddvr, a sd dvr (since i already have and dont want to spend $499 x2), and 1 hd receiver. D* has local HD channels available in my area (south bay area, california) - but are you telling me that i cannot get them/record them with a hddvr? i guess more importantly, in my area, would i be getting my local channels in hd through D*, or is this only possible with the 5lnb dish and mpeg4 equipment?

03-28-2006, 10:17 PM
Yes I can record hd programming SHO,HBO,ESPN,ESPN2,HDNet,etc.. with the HR10-250. :D

03-29-2006, 05:48 AM
I think people are getting mixed up, due to the MPEG2,4 situation.

If you get your ota stations from antenna in HD or not , you can use the MPEG2 HR10-250 HD DVR and record anything on antenna or on D*

If you have to get your local signal from the D* satillite (here's the important part) and are on the NEW MPEG4 signal, you cannot get the locals and have the HR10-250 HD DVR record it, (this HD DVR only records MPEG 2)

The new HD DVR (MPEG 4) will be out later this year, speculation is end of Third Q.

PS don't hold your breath ...


03-29-2006, 09:19 AM
go with cable. Did dude tell you how much for the HD dvr as well? as it stands now, cable you can get HDDVR with locals. Directv, you have to use the OTA to get them unless you go without a DVR.

Up front cost is pricey....$399 right now for the HD DVR. But at $10 a month "rental" for the DVR with cable, that adds up, too.

I'd be looking at $86 a month with the Comcast Digital Silver package and the DVR. DIRECTV would be $56! So....$30 MORE with cable is insane.

To me, I can't even cosider cable....satellite is the way to go.