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Need a little help please!

Jwill72
03-14-2006, 05:57 PM
Thanks in advance for some advice. I just ordered new service today for a condo I'm moving to at the end of the month. I thought I had it all figured out, but now I'm having a bit of a dilemna and could use some advice from some of you seasoned satellite veterans.

I just bought a new Samsung HDTV, so a HD Receiver is an obvious must have. However I also want a DVR. I considered the HR10-250 HD DVR, but I really don't want to shell out the up front cost quite yet until I've gotten more familiar with eveything, and I've read numerous horrid reviews on the product. So with the LNB 5 Dish that's coming, I ordered 2 separate receivers .. one for the HD and one for the DVR. But now that I realize how the DVR works and that it's also a receiver, I really don't think I want to switch between two receivers on the same TV to get both HD and DVR. I want all my menus, favorites etc. to be set up on one receiver (yeah I hate hassles).

So is it as silly as it's beginning to seem to me to get two separate receivers? I'm starting to think I should cancel the DVR for now and wait until they offer the Mpeg4 HD DVR at a reasonable initial lease price. What do you guys think I should do?

Oh as a side note, I can't bolt anything to the walls where I'm moving so I'll likely need to have the Dish mounted to a pole that somehow sits on my balcony. Any suggestions on the least obtrusive way to do that? My wife hates clutter and things that look ugly (why she married me is still a mystery) and a big ugly base or space hogging tri pod will drive her nuts.

Anyways thanks again for any advice for this complete satellite noob. Cheers!

knothead
03-14-2006, 07:02 PM
Since you have a balcony you either have wood or metal arm rails. Just have D* use that. Let them figure it out, that's what they get paid the big bucks for. Also, If you want to record shows, just buy a cheap dvd recorder till D* comes out with theirs in a few months. Dont get a 2nd rec because you will be paying another $4.99 mo. for thr 2nd feed!

Jwill72
03-14-2006, 07:57 PM
Thanks for the reply. My property manager frowns upon bracketing a satellite dish to the balcony's metal rails because they paint them from time to time, although they don't completely forbid it.

Regarding the DVR, the thing I'm worried about is losing the rebate offer if I wait. If I just get the HD Receiver, I get the $100 initial lease fee rebated but I'm pretty sure I'd lose any rebate option on their future HD DVR. But if I pay the $399 initial lease cost on the HR10-250 now (after $100 rebate), I may be able to get a free upgrade to the Mpeg4 HD DVR when it's released.

How does an outside DVR like Tivo interface with the TV? Do you have to switch to the DVR's tuner to record and playback live TV? Ugh I wish I knew more about this stuff.

Jimbos G
03-17-2006, 10:10 AM
Just curious as I am basically in the same position as you. Did someone at DT tell you you could get a free upgrade to the MPEG 4 DVR? Also, wouldn't you have to upgrade your dish at the same time to the 5 LNB? Or will the HR 10 250 DVR come with the 5 LNB dish?

jcmo34
03-17-2006, 10:58 AM
Thanks for the reply. My property manager frowns upon bracketing a satellite dish to the balcony's metal rails because they paint them from time to time, although they don't completely forbid it.

Regarding the DVR, the thing I'm worried about is losing the rebate offer if I wait. If I just get the HD Receiver, I get the $100 initial lease fee rebated but I'm pretty sure I'd lose any rebate option on their future HD DVR. But if I pay the $399 initial lease cost on the HR10-250 now (after $100 rebate), I may be able to get a free upgrade to the Mpeg4 HD DVR when it's released.

How does an outside DVR like Tivo interface with the TV? Do you have to switch to the DVR's tuner to record and playback live TV? Ugh I wish I knew more about this stuff.
If you are intent on making sure you get the receiver, you could purchase it now then after a few weeks, have them suspend it. That way you will have it but won't be charged for the DVR service and the cost of the extra receiver. You can suspend for 9 months, but can always extend that as well. I don't know if the leasing changes this month would cause this not to work, but we suspended service on a couple of our receivers last year... they don't charge you for them during that time and when you do want to use them again, they don't charge you for reactivating them.
Something to consider anyways.

Jwill72
03-17-2006, 11:16 AM
Just curious as I am basically in the same position as you. Did someone at DT tell you you could get a free upgrade to the MPEG 4 DVR? Also, wouldn't you have to upgrade your dish at the same time to the 5 LNB? Or will the HR 10 250 DVR come with the 5 LNB dish?

DTV said "probably" regarding the upgrade from the HR10 to the HR20, and I'm already getting installed with the 5 LNB Dish as I'm still getting the H20 HD Receiver.

After doing some research and asking questions on several forums, I finally decided to just go with the separate H20 receiver and R15 DVR. The difference is $100 up-front vs. $400 up-front, and in the end I'm just going to wait for the HR20 and hope that the lease cost drops to something that seems more reasonable for a piece of equipment I won't own. I'll have to set them up on separate TV inputs and switch to each box depending on whether I want HD or to run the DVR, but a good universal remote should take away some of the hassle of doing that.