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Fox Waiver Question

kelrhon
02-26-2006, 08:33 PM
In Frankfort, KY, we have been notified that the Fox affiliate out of Lexington, KY (which is the town DTV has designated for our local channels), will be removed from our local cable network. So, the only way to get that channel is OTA. I have an antenna, but their tower is far enough away that it pixels a great deal. My question is this......I have the HD package and the CBS and NBC East feeds in HD. I have been turned down multiple times by the Fox network on my waiver requests because of this local channel issue. Local channels in HD in Lexington/Frankfort are still at least months away......but since they are leaving the local Frankfort, KY, cable, do you think it is worth trying one more time for a Fox network waiver? I am missing out on great Nascar HD and 24 episodes in HD. Thoughts anyone?

kelrhon
02-26-2006, 08:35 PM
I need to add that I do have the local channel package and do get the Lexington channel on DTV.........but not the HD feed.

crashg71
02-26-2006, 08:39 PM
"Try Try again!!!" I Got shot down by abc, nbc, Granted cbs east {free} And am still waiting to hear from fox. D*

kelrhon
02-26-2006, 09:03 PM
Yes...one of my friends just got DTV and he also got CBS east free.......not sure why one give and the others don't since, in the case of Lexington, KY, most of the TV stations either share a physical tower or are located very close together. Go figure....thanks. Waiver request has been turned in.

Tower Guy
02-27-2006, 06:19 PM
In Frankfort, KY, we have been notified that the Fox affiliate out of Lexington, KY (which is the town DTV has designated for our local channels), will be removed from our local cable network. So, the only way to get that channel is OTA. I have an antenna, but their tower is far enough away that it pixels a great deal.

Do you know what antenna that you have installed? Do you have a preramp? Are you in a favorable location for reception of Lexington, stations? Is your antenna high enough?

WDKY-DT is on channel 4. Channels 2-6 tend to bend over hills better than UHF, but are more prone to noise problems. Your antenna and preamp should be designed for channel 4 receptiion.

kelrhon
02-28-2006, 08:50 PM
Thanks Tower Guy...........when I scan channels, it comes upf 56-1. How do I get it to scan channel 4? It is a Radio Shack antenna........I do get the other digital/HD channels just fine...only 56 is bad........about 40 miles straight from my house to the tower. Thanks again.

kelrhon
02-28-2006, 08:51 PM
Also, yes, I feel my antenna is high enough and I do have a preamp.

lwilli201
02-28-2006, 10:44 PM
Yes...one of my friends just got DTV and he also got CBS east free.......not sure why one give and the others don't since, in the case of Lexington, KY, most of the TV stations either share a physical tower or are located very close together. Go figure....thanks. Waiver request has been turned in.

Waivers are given when your local network station is owned by the network, i.e. if Fox ownes the station in your area, you will get a waiver. If it is not owned by the network there is no way they will give you a waiver. In Kansas City the only network owned station is Fox, so when I called D* they turned it on for me.

davecramer74
03-01-2006, 09:13 AM
good luck with fox. I dont know anyone who got one. I literally emailed the station manager and she gave me a long speel about why they wouldnt give it to me. Id say give up and just wait for the high def feeds to come over the dtv. NBC, CBS and i think ABC all gave me waivers. Fox were the only fockers about it.

kelrhon
03-01-2006, 06:03 PM
Yeah I know..........just looking for any "seam" to get a waiver.........thanks for input folks...........

Tower Guy
03-01-2006, 07:46 PM
Thanks Tower Guy...........when I scan channels, it comes upf 56-1. How do I get it to scan channel 4? It is a Radio Shack antenna........I do get the other digital/HD channels just fine...only 56 is bad........about 40 miles straight from my house to the tower. Thanks again.

DTV channel 4 will show up on your set as 56.1 because WDKY's analog channel is 56. Is your radioshack antenna big enough? It should look like this http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103087&cp=&pg=2&kw=tv+antenna&parentPage=search

kelrhon
03-02-2006, 04:45 PM
It is the one just below that one.

Tower Guy
03-02-2006, 08:17 PM
It is the one just below that one.


You need more signal on channel four.

Here's a comparison chart on antennas similar to the one that you have:

http://www.starkelectronic.com/cmg4.htm

You'll notice that the gain on channel four doesn't vary too much.
A preamp won't help much on channel 4. More height would help. Or a very large antenna.

There's a number of options to get more antenna gain;
From Warren Electronics here's a channel 2-6 model.
VHF 10 Element Yagi Ch.2-6 Model Y10-2-6

Or one of these cut to channel 4;
http://www.wade-antenna.com/cutchannel.htm

You can use a UHF/VHF joiner to add them together.

kelrhon
03-02-2006, 08:33 PM
But the one you showed me from Radio Shack would work as well? I hate to have to spend more money just get one more channel because I get all of the others just fine..............thanks for all this info though.........very nice.........thanks for helping.

Tower Guy
03-02-2006, 09:14 PM
But the one you showed me from Radio Shack would work as well? I hate to have to spend more money just get one more channel because I get all of the others just fine..............thanks for all this info though.........very nice.........thanks for helping.

Probably not. The difference in gain is slight. If you don't want a bigger antenna, try adding 10' of height to the antenna that you already have.

kelrhon
03-04-2006, 05:18 AM
Thanks again Tower Guy...........you have been a big help..........I will see what 10 more feet will do!