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HDTV W/ built in D*

lost
02-16-2006, 05:03 PM
When are the new Units going to be released with the built in tuners?

Cornbread
02-16-2006, 06:07 PM
All HD-DTV receivers past, present and future already have built in digital tuners.

Gn00b
02-16-2006, 07:22 PM
Cornbread...

I've been looking for an inexpensive tuner for some time. Newegg has the H20 for $169.00.

So can I get the H20 and use it as a digital/HD tuner without "activating"it with Directv?

borromini
02-16-2006, 08:18 PM
No not necessarily...some older units have been known to allow you to bypass D* and get OTA reception, but I think the newer ones do require a D* account. Now there are OTA HD receivers that have nothing to do with D* and if your HDTV doesn't have a built-in tuner, these receivers come in handy.

hitdog042
02-16-2006, 09:16 PM
No not necessarily...some older units have been known to allow you to bypass D* and get OTA reception, but I think the newer ones do require a D* account. Now there are OTA HD receivers that have nothing to do with D* and if your HDTV doesn't have a built-in tuner, these receivers come in handy.


Your best bet is to go to ebay and grab either a dish network hd box or an H10. However, to set it up, you still need a dish signal (inactive or active) to fake the box out.

So, pick one up on ebay for around 60 bucks. Then, plug it into ur satellite line (make sure it has a card), let it find the satellites, then run setup to find ur local channels, and just unplug the cable cord.

Bingo - a cheap OTA receiver.

Cornbread
02-17-2006, 09:17 AM
Is your TV hooked up to a computer? If not that is a good option if you have a spare computer laying around. ATI has a new video card called the HDTV Wonder, it has a built in digital TV tuner capable of receiving HDTV and you can even record from it. Like a cheap ($100) HD-DVR.

lost
02-17-2006, 11:04 AM
I actually said it wrong. I meant when are the TVs coming out that all you need is a D* card. Like the cable ready TVs. I guess you would say with a built in receiver.

deadhead68
02-17-2006, 11:16 AM
I actually said it wrong. I meant when are the TVs coming out that all you need is a D* card. Like the cable ready TVs. I guess you would say with a built in receiver.

I personally have not heard of that being on the horizon. And actually, I don't think it would be a matter of when the TV's are going to come out for this, but when is D*TV going to make a card that will fit into a TV's cable card slot. But I have a feeling they won't be doing that. Now I'm not tech genius, but if they made a card for your TV and you stopped paying your bill then it would be hard for them to shut off you service. The cable companies can just turn off the feed to your house at a distribution box for your block/neighborhood. It'd be kind of hard to do that with a satellite in orbit.

Cornbread
02-17-2006, 02:16 PM
I actually said it wrong. I meant when are the TVs coming out that all you need is a D* card. Like the cable ready TVs. I guess you would say with a built in receiver.

Do you mean like the cable card for cable TV? Yea, never ever, because the satellite services are not standardized. The cable card have been years in the making and it still doesn't work right, for example with only the cable card the TV has no interactivity.

TulsaCoker
02-17-2006, 03:59 PM
No, there is / was talk of TV's having built in directv receivers, but I have not
heard anything about them in a while.

Cornbread
02-18-2006, 09:46 AM
Well it's not that simple, you have different technologies here:
To get a digital signal displayed basically you have three different technologies: Off-air (broadcast) uses eight-level vestigial modulation, cable uses quadrapture amplitude modulation or QAM and satellite uses a completely different technology called quadrature phase shift keying and none are compatible with each other. That is why I don't think we will see a universal receiver any time soon. It would probably be to expensive to combine all those technologies.