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DirecTV+ is coming, time to buy a 250??

ktm3ten
02-16-2006, 08:31 AM
Ok--

I'm going to be upgrading to all HD equipment in the next few months as we are building a new house. I was really getting excited about the new MPEG-4 w/ DVR receiver because I figured they'll have the HD locals before long here in Denver and I'd avoid messing with an OTA antenna. So then I did some checking, the new MPEG-4 w/ DVR will use the DirecTV+ interface, as the relationship with Tivo is over.

Here's the catch, go read about the R-15 (the SD DVR from DirecTV) and I dare anyone to find something positive. Everything I checked is "I hate this damn thing".

So I'm thinking, it may be a good time to invest in a HD-250 to ensure I get the good interface. The only downside is I won't get MPEG-4 locals in HD, but I can still get those off the OTA antenna, right?

Anyone see something I'm overlooking or know something I don't? Please let me know ASAP!!

CraterGrillo
02-16-2006, 08:36 AM
Ok--

I'm going to be upgrading to all HD equipment in the next few months as we are building a new house. I was really getting excited about the new MPEG-4 w/ DVR receiver because I figured they'll have the HD locals before long here in Denver and I'd avoid messing with an OTA antenna. So then I did some checking, the new MPEG-4 w/ DVR will use the DirecTV+ interface, as the relationship with Tivo is over.

Here's the catch, go read about the R-15 (the SD DVR from DirecTV) and I dare anyone to find something positive. Everything I checked is "I hate this damn thing".

So I'm thinking, it may be a good time to invest in a HD-250 to ensure I get the good interface. The only downside is I won't get MPEG-4 locals in HD, but I can still get those off the OTA antenna, right?

Anyone see something I'm overlooking or know something I don't? Please let me know ASAP!!

One thing you should know - Directv will stop selling the boxes apparently sometime in march, if I understand it correctly. They're moving to a rental arrangement of some sort (don't have the details in front of me, and since I bought my HR10-250 I don't much care at the moment).

So you could probably do the rental thing and then upgrade to the HR20-xxx dvr later in that case.

Alternatively you could buy the HR10-250 (soon) and they'll apparently let people trade up to the new dvr later for some nominal charge.

Finally, yes, a HR10-250 merges the satellite channels with the over-the-air channels quite nicely.

02-16-2006, 10:54 AM
Novice here, just getting started. Have been a D* subscriber with TIVO for years. Since I am getting an HDTV, looking at the issues around HD-250 and ota reception. Will I be able to record shows that come ota from an HD antenna (using the guide, schedule, etc.)? Thanks

Fl_Gulfer
02-16-2006, 11:40 AM
Get a HDTV with a built in Tuner and you can run a seperate cable to your TV from a outside antenna.

gordond
02-16-2006, 11:42 AM
Is it time to switch Cable Adelphia.net to get HD

CraterGrillo
02-16-2006, 11:48 AM
Novice here, just getting started. Have been a D* subscriber with TIVO for years. Since I am getting an HDTV, looking at the issues around HD-250 and ota reception. Will I be able to record shows that come ota from an HD antenna (using the guide, schedule, etc.)? Thanks

With the HD10-250 the OTA stuff is simply merged in. In addition to channel 4 (satellite), for example, you would have channel 4-1 (off the air, high def). The guide works perfectly etc...

bgoalie35
02-16-2006, 02:18 PM
Ok--

I'm going to be upgrading to all HD equipment in the next few months as we are building a new house. I was really getting excited about the new MPEG-4 w/ DVR receiver because I figured they'll have the HD locals before long here in Denver and I'd avoid messing with an OTA antenna. So then I did some checking, the new MPEG-4 w/ DVR will use the DirecTV+ interface, as the relationship with Tivo is over.

Here's the catch, go read about the R-15 (the SD DVR from DirecTV) and I dare anyone to find something positive. Everything I checked is "I hate this damn thing".

So I'm thinking, it may be a good time to invest in a HD-250 to ensure I get the good interface. The only downside is I won't get MPEG-4 locals in HD, but I can still get those off the OTA antenna, right?

Anyone see something I'm overlooking or know something I don't? Please let me know ASAP!!

Who hates the R15? I love Tivo, but I don't think the R15 is bad at all. I've used both, and I would say there are advantages to both. The R15 does not have 15 minute at a time jumps in fast forward mode, which is the biggest knock I would give it. It does have a few nice features though, like the mini guide on the bottom of the screen, 4 speed fast forward or rewind instead of 3, all the menus and guides like the H20 (much improved over the old D* menus in my opinion), and an indicator that tells you what % of your hard drive you have used (you just have to guess with the Tivo boxes).

I would have no problem giving up my Tivo boxes for R15s if I had to.

hdtv4me2
02-16-2006, 02:47 PM
I have read on this site that many people in the Denver area have a very hard time getting OTA HD.

SHOSHOSHO
02-17-2006, 10:06 AM
Is it time to switch Cable Adelphia.net to get HD

Thats what I did and never looked back.

reubenray
02-17-2006, 07:05 PM
I have just one comment about this subject. I have the 250 and I have the R-15. The one item that bugs me is the guide. The Tivo guide sucks and is real slow. There is not problem with the R-15.

bgoalie35
02-18-2006, 10:35 AM
Tivo actually fixed the guide on the SD receivers with a software update. D* never offered that update for the H10-250. You're right, the guide on the 250 is slow as hell, and the R15 guide is nice and quick.

ktm3ten
02-19-2006, 06:10 AM
I'm glad to hear the R-15 isn't as bad as originally feared. But is it true that the R-15 doesn't have 2 tuners for sat. So you can't be watching one program and recording another or recording 2 prog's at the same time?

This is a big deal feature it seems like to me...

RonH
02-19-2006, 08:50 AM
I'm glad to hear the R-15 isn't as bad as originally feared. But is it true that the R-15 doesn't have 2 tuners for sat. So you can't be watching one program and recording another or recording 2 prog's at the same time?

This is a big deal feature it seems like to me...

I would like to know this also. I'll be going to HD in March or April and my wife is BIG into Tivoing 2 programs at once on our Std. DirecTv. So I'll need an HD Tivo unit that has dual tuners.

deadhead68
02-19-2006, 11:29 AM
I would like to know this also. I'll be going to HD in March or April and my wife is BIG into Tivoing 2 programs at once on our Std. DirecTv. So I'll need an HD Tivo unit that has dual tuners.

From what I can tell, the R15 is standard def only. And it does have 2 sat tuners so you can watch 1 programm and record another or record 2 programs at the same time. See this quote from an online D* retailer.


DIRECTV R15 1-Room 100 Hours DIRECTV Plus DVR
"WATCH AND RECORD
Watch one show while you record another. Record two shows at the same time. Even watch a recorded show while recording two other live shows."

RonH, if you are going HD and want the DVR function, you will needing the H10-250 I believe.

DeadHead68

RonH
02-19-2006, 12:40 PM
I thought DirecTv was going to stop selling the H10-250 real soon and that is why the "Rebates" being offered until Feb. 28th on this unit. So DirectV will still to be offering these units to someone in April or later?

DCapone
02-22-2006, 04:10 PM
I have an R15 SD box and can confirm that it is a dual tuner box.

reubenray
02-22-2006, 07:22 PM
The R15 does have 2 tuners, but my only hangup with this receiver is it will not record from the antenna feed. Even an antique and crappy VCR will do that!!! :mad:

bgoalie35
02-23-2006, 10:18 PM
I think the rebate is ending on February 28th because the lease model starts March 1. I was not aware that they were stopping the H10-250 any time soon, as the newer HDDVR, the HR20, is not due out until this summer.

reubenray, why do you want to record off an antenna feed with an SD recorder? Just curious. I can see it with an HD DVR, but I can't think of a use for it with an SD DVR.

reubenray
02-24-2006, 05:46 PM
I think the rebate is ending on February 28th because the lease model starts March 1. I was not aware that they were stopping the H10-250 any time soon, as the newer HDDVR, the HR20, is not due out until this summer.

reubenray, why do you want to record off an antenna feed with an SD recorder? Just curious. I can see it with an HD DVR, but I can't think of a use for it with an SD DVR.

When you have two residences and all of my main equipment is at one of them. My HD DVR is in Texas, but when we get to come to our home in Louisiana I need to record sometimes from the antenna. If I have researched this a little more I probably would have not got it even if it is free. At least it will be if they ever send me my rebate info.