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Samsung HL-R5667W or Sony KDFE50A10?

Ed4252
02-15-2006, 07:31 PM
Which TV has the better PQ...as well as with games?


also, when the LED's hdtv's come out, what will the prices be like do you think? not sure if it's worth waiting



also keep in mind when making this decision that I'll be getting the samsung 56" for $140 cheaper than the sony.

mikoo1965
02-17-2006, 08:07 AM
I have HL-R5667W and I am happy with it. Friend of mine got Sony (KDF-50WE655, not the same one as you mentioned) and he seems to happy with it too. So it's all personal what your eyes like.

So comparision DLV vs. LCD

DLP LCD
Rainbow No rainbow
Color-wheel No color-wheel to worry about
No burn-in Possible burn-in
No Screen-door effect Screen-door effect

And about LED TV, some one on this forum mentioned, they would cost around $3000-$3500.

By the way, keep in mind, I did price match at CC with some internet store (got mine for $2350 in July). After I mentioned that here, some one else also tried and worked. So it's worth trying that to buy such a big item from local store. They are at least $400 cheaper now a days on internet.

Good luck.

daleb
02-17-2006, 08:19 AM
I don't believe burn-in is possible with either one.

mikoo1965
02-17-2006, 03:17 PM
I don't believe burn-in is possible with either one.

r u sure? I have read so many places that with LCD, it is defenitely a possibility and defenitely not with DLP.

Camdogg
02-17-2006, 04:06 PM
r u sure? I have read so many places that with LCD, it is defenitely a possibility and defenitely not with DLP.

I've heard the claim about burn in on flat panel LCD's (I think it's being argued somewhere else on this site) but never heard of it on an LCD RPTV.

chooseyourtv
02-18-2006, 10:42 PM
Yeah you get no Burn-in with a LCD projection, that is only for flat panel TV's. The LCD projection has some downs though, lower contrast and picture degradation. As hours rack up on the LCD projection TV the picture will not look as good as when you took it out of the box. Plus you still have a light source that will have to be replaced over time. With DLP you don't get the picture degradation.
Here is a good like for infomation. It's talking about Front projectors but the technology is the same basically: http://www.chooseyourtv.com/projectordlpvslcd.html

There are also other articles on Rear projection tv's

daleb
02-18-2006, 11:46 PM
Yeah you get no Burn-in with a LCD projection, that is only for flat panel TV's. The LCD projection has some downs though, lower contrast and picture degradation. http://www.chooseyourtv.com/projectordlpvslcd.html

There are also other articles on Rear projection tv's

The leading study on this subject was performed by Texas Instrument in May 2002. LCD panels were found to be more sensitive to degradation under the heat produced in front projectors due to the small area and the close proximity of components.
By 2003, Sony was already producing LCD engines with UV filters to resist this degradation, for all their displays.
Because of the greater heat problem in FPs, you can not generalize everything even if it's the same basic technology, when the application is different. Application is a key factor when making any comparison.

With DLPs you still have to replace bulbs, and maybe even colorwheels from time to time.

With the latest LCoS technology, plus the promise of SED, todays LCD and DLP technology will be history in the near future. But they should both still give many more years of pleaureable viewing in the meantime.

chooseyourtv
02-19-2006, 06:57 AM
Yes flat panel LCD's don't have problems with Degradation of the picture. However LCD rear projection still does and after 3000 hours, the picture will dim and tint. With LCD rear projection not only do you have LCD panels 1 or 3 that will degrade. But you also have a light source too that has to be replaced.

I don't see LCoS ever replacing DLP or LCD rear projections. LCoS has a host of other problems like low contrasts and they are finding that some of the LCD chips are degrading as well. Like on the JVC HD-ILA(LCoS).

WestDC
02-19-2006, 08:10 AM
which ever one you choose after awhile you will whish you had choosen something else.

So buy something and live with it!

jaycmartin
02-19-2006, 12:12 PM
With the latest LCoS technology, plus the promise of SED, todays LCD and DLP technology will be history in the near future. But they should both still give many more years of pleaureable viewing in the meantime.
I agree that LCoS is a marvel in hdtv technology but to say it will render DLP and LCD obsolete in the NEAR future is highly improbable in my opinion. Due to the advanced technology, LCoS sets are more expensive than LCD and DLP. The prices would have to nose dive to enable the majority of the population to afford one. Furthermore, too much cash has already been invested in DLP and LCD research and development to simply quit in "the near future" which I interpret is around 7-10 years or 2016.

CRT sets contrary to popular belief aren't going anywhere either any time soon for 2 reasons:
1. Most people can't and won't be able to fork up $1000 to $6000 on an hdtv set.
2. Even with the President signing a bill to phase out analog tv broadcasting by 2009, folks will still be able to use their existing digital cable or satellites with their CRT sets.

For the 20 million folks with only rooftop antennas there may be some arrangement where they can possibly get government help in purchasing a digital set top box. As of today CRT sets are still in the large majority of homes. Around 80% of households. Got my facts from this and other factual web pages.

http://reviews.cnet.com/Televisions/4532-10921_7-0.html?node=6475

Jayc :cool:

Darrylhifi
02-19-2006, 01:28 PM
"For the 20 million folks with only rooftop antennas there may be some arrangement where they can possibly get government help in purchasing a digital set top box"

The good news is that the goverment issued digital set top boxes will upconvert all analog sources to true 1080p via a normal rca connections. The Bad news is the only channels it will be able to receive will be the The Dick Cheney Hunting channel and the Al Jazeera Network.

daleb
02-19-2006, 01:49 PM
The Dick Cheney Hunting channel and the Al Jazeera Network.

Not in HD I hope! :eek:

jaycmartin
02-19-2006, 09:08 PM
The good news is that the goverment issued digital set top boxes will upconvert all analog sources to true 1080p via a normal rca connections. The Bad news is the only channels it will be able to receive will be the The Dick Cheney Hunting channel and the Al Jazeera Network.

Didn't know that. But I still don't think the masses who currently own CRT non HD sets will run out in the near future and go broke on an LCoS tv or DLP and LCD for that matter. Many many will upgrade but most won't because they simply can't.