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Cr: Kdf-e50a10#1; Kdf-50we655#13?

teds12
02-04-2006, 10:29 AM
One of the reasons that I bought my KDF-50WE655 a year ago was that Consumer Reports (CR) reported that the 2004 precursor model was "outstanding" in a December 2004 "preview".

Then, CR has rated the KDF-50WE655 quite poorly (always in the bottom third) in several reviews during 2005, e.g., only "good" HD picture, "fair" DVD picture and "fair" basic TV performance.

NOW TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY: CR, in the current March, 2006 issue has KDF-E50A10 at #1 of 15 RP-LCD 50" TVs with "excellent" HD picture, "very good" DVD performance, and "good" basic TV with basic input.

My KDF-50WE655 remains near the bottom in the same review: #13 of 15 with "good" HDTV performance, "fair" DVD performance, and "fair" TV performance from basic input.

My friend works at CR and assured me that CR uses a minimum of 2 sets of each model, more likely 3, so it can't be a "1 unit "sport" issue!

Any opinions as to why KDF-50WE655 is so poorly rated here?

BuTal63
02-04-2006, 03:44 PM
One of the reasons that I bought my KDF-50WE655 a year ago was that Consumer Reports (CR) reported that the 2004 precursor model was "outstanding" in a December 2004 "preview".

Then, CR has rated the KDF-50WE655 quite poorly (always in the bottom third) in several reviews during 2005, e.g., only "good" HD picture, "fair" DVD picture and "fair" basic TV performance.

NOW TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY: CR, in the current March, 2006 issue has KDF-E50A10 at #1 of 15 RP-LCD 50" TVs with "excellent" HD picture, "very good" DVD performance, and "good" basic TV with basic input.

My KDF-50WE655 remains near the bottom in the same review: #13 of 15 with "good" HDTV performance, "fair" DVD performance, and "fair" TV performance from basic input.

My friend works at CR and assured me that CR uses a minimum of 2 sets of each model, more likely 3, so it can't be a "1 unit "sport" issue!

Any opinions as to why KDF-50WE655 is so poorly rated here?

I assume you don't subscribe to Consumer Reports Online. If you did, you could go to the TV discussion forum and raise holy h*** with the CR moderator, as I and others have done regarding CR's woefully outdated tv testing process. Simple fact is that CR is not keeping up with the rapidly changing HDTV scene.

However, it's this very fact that the scene is changing so rapidly that is one of the reasons your set has fallen so quickly in the ratings. It's an unfortunate fact of life in the insane world of HDTV that your set is now "old" and has already been surpassed by newer technology. The 50A10 has goodies your set does not have, that are supposed to help enhance the picture.

CR doesn't rate sets according to some absolute standards. Rather, they rate sets as they compare to each other. Thus, while your set may have rated "excellent" compared to the other sets available at that time for testing, it no longer does.

Another reason your set has dropped in rank order, IF my not-always-reliable memory is correct, is that CR said that particular model suffered a downgrade in production quality somewhere along the way, after they tested it the first time. If I'm right, then you probably have one of the pre-downgrade versions of that model. This may be the more important reason why your set is now rated so low. Perhaps your friend at CR can verify this.

Of course, if your eyes still see an excellent picture every time you fire up your set, that's all that counts!

daleb
02-04-2006, 03:46 PM
Of course, if your eyes still see an excellent picture every time you fire up your set, that's all that counts!

You save the most important point for last! :)

BuTal63
02-04-2006, 03:59 PM
You save the most important point for last! :)

How true! I think when I finally break down and buy into this big screen HD tech, I'm never going to look at another forum or ratings article again. I'll be supremely happy with the picture I see on my set and blissfully ignorant of the non-stop barrage of technological "miracles" rendering it more and more obsolete by the nanosecond - at least until it breaks. :)

teds12
02-05-2006, 12:55 AM
How true! I think when I finally break down and buy into this big screen HD tech, I'm never going to look at another forum or ratings article again. I'll be supremely happy with the picture I see on my set and blissfully ignorant of the non-stop barrage of technological "miracles" rendering it more and more obsolete by the nanosecond - at least until it breaks. :)

Thanks for the comforting input BuTal, & daleb!
Actually, my local appliance store had a couple dozen HDTVs on side by side and the KDF-42WE655 clearly stood out (in my opinion and the dealer's who acted like the cat that just ate the canary as I wowed). I then checked CR, got the encouragement I needed based on their "1st take" and bought the 50" set. I couldn't believe that the picture was even better in my home than in the store. But that was before the letdown by CR's later reviews and even the CNET review (but 90% of the customer reviews on CNET are VERY POSITIVE - but then who buys a set and then doesn't rave about it...).

That was December 2004 when I convinced myself that the DLP sets didn't measure up THEN and plasma was just too expensive at the time ($5000 for 50" vs. the $2900 for the Sony RPLCD w/Sony stand) and I could swear didn't look as good as the TV I purchased. Today the top-rated 50" Panasonic plasma is down 30% or $1500 at $3500, while KDF-E50A10 w/stand is only down 10% from where I came in.

Actually my 13 year old 35" direct view Mitsubishi's tuner failed then and I was forced to do something. I didn't know RPLCD from DLP from plasma from RPCRT, but in a week I got a fair handle on things. I think all-in-all, give the situation at the time (and the excellent picture I still see today), I've made out fine!

BuTal63
02-05-2006, 10:31 AM
Couldn't agree with you more Teds12. I think you made out fine too, even more so if your set has been reliable and trouble free since you bought it. Such is not always the case with this new tech.

As for people buying a set and not raving about it - well, the many unhappy posts in Sony SXRD threads scared me away from purchasing the first generation of this set after nearly a year of research and months waiting for the SXRD's to come to market.
To be fair, there are many posts from happy SXRD owners, but there are just too many complaints for me to plunk down all that cash and then roll the dice on getting a trouble-free unit. I've seen some of the problems with my own eyes.

I'm "suffering" here with an 11 year old Pio Elite RP CRT analog set with convergence problems. I thought for sure I'd have it replaced in time for this year's Super Bowl, but such is not the case and now I'm in no hurry to do so, preferring to wait and watch for what should be interesting HD developments this year. Hmmm, did I say the same thing last year??

Hope you have years of enjoyment with your set. :)

chopper
02-07-2006, 06:49 PM
chopper here I to bought a50we65 about 5 months ago.But two weeks afther I bought it I seen the 50a10 at the same place cosctoc. For month I,ve been polling my hair out trying to fiuger out what to do.The hd an sd get a fantastic.Picture on the one Ihave but cosctoc said Icould take the 50we566 back if Iwant butIhave had bad luck I,m afraid old MERFS going to jump up. I think that most tthe people are right if it look good to you than thats the way to go. thanks for the time. :hithere: