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JVC HILA 1080p Dilema

bhellwege
12-24-2005, 01:49 AM
I'm having a difficult time in reconciling the price difference of $1500 for the JVC HD P61R1U vs. the JVC HD 61FH96.

I'm not very technical but why such a big spread in $$$s?

Any input is truely welcome.

mrcobbynot
12-24-2005, 09:23 AM
The 1080p will upconvert 1080i to 1080p so why spend around $1000 dollors extra for the 1080p input when there is really not any 1080p movies coming. Even the 1080p capable ps3 will only have 1080i games upconverted to 1080p by the box. This is the same thing the TV will do. The hddvd and blueray movies will be in 1080i as well. The only thing that might come in 1080p anytime soon is CBS ota 1080p which is still upconverted 1080i also the same thing the Tv will do. Its all a big lie about 1080p content. Try finding out who is makeing or useing a 1080p hdcamera. Save yourself the money get the Toshiba 62hm195 the pq is awesome and the price is right. If you like the jvc because its jvc than save yourself the pain and get the 1080p because its very worth it. If you cant see the diff in 720p to 1080i than it may not matter to you.

RSawdey
12-24-2005, 10:59 AM
The advantage of a 1080p/60 display is that it can show all 18 ATSC formats without compromise, always upconverting without dataloss. BluRay & HD-DVD movies are most likely to be stored as 1080p/24... it's the standard for HD movie telecine.

JVC, amongst others, make cameras which capture 720p and 1080p... including their latest semipro camcorder which can be switched between 720p & 1080p.

inazsully
12-26-2005, 10:49 AM
Assuming that the 70" set is the same as the 61" then a few things may set the HF96 series above the R1U. The HF96 showed the best ever seen (Sound & Vision Mag review) multiburst resolution pattern. One of the few sets that could fully resolve 1080i sources. Average black level best ever seen. Depth of black best seen on this years reviewed models. One of few 1080p's that can actually resolve every line of a 1080i test pattern. Minimal noise and no hint of false contouring. "Small concerns should not concern anyone valuing PQ above all else".

ttmatsu
12-26-2005, 11:18 PM
I'm having a difficult time in reconciling the price difference of $1500 for the JVC HD P61R1U vs. the JVC HD 61FH96.



For starters, you need to do a better job shopping! There is maybe a $300 difference between the 2 sets with the 61fh96 available for around $3000 online (not including shipping fees). Contact some JVC Pro dealers and I think you'll be surprised at how low they are selling the R1U unit for. Just be aware that several Pro dealers only sell to businesses and some have shipping charges that reflect their inexperience shipping to residences. But, some are selling for an excellent price and have reasonable shipping fees.

You are right that it would be VERY difficult to justify a large price difference between the 2 sets as the only real diff is that the R1U is factory calibrated to the D65 standard using optical filters while the fh96 is electronically set to some semblance of the standard. As the sound and vision review showed, calibration was required to get it close to the D65 standard while the R1U should be at the standard out of the box making it unnecessary to have it ISF calibrated (you can do the adjustments yourself with Avia or DVE since the most difficult part is getting to the D65 standard).

There is a tremendous difference between msrp and street prices. I'm not going to mention the name of the forum but it has a fh96 owners thread and another for the R1U owners. There are several fh96 owners but only a couple R1U owners so far. My R1U unit should be here Friday or Tuesday. I certainly didn't pay anywhere near $1500 more for my R1U versus the FH96.